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2012 Elections in 3-D!

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Man would it be hilarious to see Romney come unglued in a speech, Dean-style, if he loses MI and AZ.

I want Paul to win just one state. Please. Make it a biggie, like CA or TX (his home state.) You might see Barry Goldwater rise from the grave and start chokeslamming people if that happens.
 
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I'm just saying, that's the spirit in which GM and the bailouts are perceived in outstate Michigan. The truth of it as posted here is irrelevant.

Its hard to have a healthy nation in a democracy if citizen perceptions are so disconnected from the truth. And when doing 'what I say' trumps successful policy.
 
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Should not be the #1 issue, but will it be?

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Boston prices courtesy Boston Herald
 
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Should not be the #1 issue, but will it be?

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Boston prices courtesy Boston Herald

Can we get some of those Occupy kids to the speculators/oil companies/whoever else needs a visit? THAT would do some good.
 
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I spent most of last week in Brownsville, TX. I was appalled at the gas prices as I drove through Oklahoma and Texas, at minimum 30 cents per gallon higher than in Denver where I live, and in some cases close to a dollar a gallon more. Then I got to Brownsville, which is in the Rio Grande Valley. The gas there was minimum 50 cents per gallon less than Denver. My parents, who live there, were mentioning how expensive the gas was getting, so I told them how much less it was than in the surrounding areas. The best we could come up with is, most people in Brownsville choose to drive, but could AND WOULD just as easily choose NOT TO if the price of gas gets too high. My dad told me exactly that has happened at times in the past.

So, in at least one place in the country, the oil companies recognize that the market will not bear infinitely increasing gas prices. I wish that there were a way we could make them recognize that in the rest of the country/world.
 
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Should not be the #1 issue, but will it be?

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Boston prices courtesy Boston Herald

Considering gas/oil was the spike* that led to the bursting of quite a few bubbles acting as the catalyst to the recession, I'd say it's pretty important. Especially since it could spike the fragile economy we have right now.

*=My theory behind the collapse. The bubbles were primed to burst. It was only a matter of time. Whether it happened then or a year later, the results were unavoidable.
 
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Its the only way Obama loses, if prices spike to 5 bucks like predicted he is done
I don't see it (this issue) being the breaker. You have to have someone to vote for and I think just hearing I am not Obama isn't enough when the GOP is the party in bed with the oil companies (see Bush era rhetoric). Where is the outrage that we still don't have a cars with great gas mileage? The Dems will say that their initiatives to decrease need have been blocked.

They interviewed people locally buying cars who are still buying the ones with lousy mpg and then whining that it costs them to drive. duh. I wonder if we will ever work out that capitalism does not exsist with built in with morals and ethics. We want it but when it is making people money at the expense of the populace we are shocked.
 
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I don't see it (this issue) being the breaker. You have to have someone to vote for and I think just hearing I am not Obama isn't enough when the GOP is the party in bed with the oil companies (see Bush era rhetoric). Where is the outrage that we still don't have a cars with great gas mileage? The Dems will say that their initiatives to decrease need have been blocked.

This is turning into the right's meme for the summer, by process of elimination. They already lost national defense and counter-terrorism to the Dems. They blew their cred on fiscal responsibility when they had power. If the economy is improving that takes out their last fear card. If their nominee is Romney, they can offer the country nothing positive. The social issue boogeymen are growing grey and don't win anywhere outside their core states. They have no room to grow, so they need to find some weapon to wield. Think of what a disaster it will be for the GOP if we have peace.

So I would expect to see a lot more photos of Obama's black face in front of high gas price signs. It's all they got.
 
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This is not directed at geezer, but some right wing doofus most likely started this rumor thinking it was 2004 all over again and the Dem campaign would wait for the MSM to sort out what is true and what isn't, all the while the story festered for weeks.

I'm just saying, that's the spirit in which GM and the bailouts are perceived in outstate Michigan. The truth of it as posted here is irrelevant.

The problem is that people keep repeating it, even though it's untrue. Maybe if CERTAIN people stopped repeating it the perception would be different.

This is turning into the right's meme for the summer, by process of elimination. They already lost national defense and counter-terrorism to the Dems. If the economy is improving that takes out their last fear card. If their nominee is Romney, they can offer the country nothing positive. The social issue boogeymen are growing grey and don't win anywhere outside their core states. They have no room to grow, so they need to find something to wield. Think of what a disaster it will be for the GOP if we have peace.

So I would expect to see a lot more photos of Obama's black face in front of high gas price signs. It's all they got.

And the irony is several of their corporate backers love high gas prices because it increases their profit margins. It was a guy named Dick Cheney who criticized President Clinton because the price of gas was too low. Those were the days, eh?
 
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The problem is that people keep repeating it, even though it's untrue. Maybe if CERTAIN people stopped repeating it the perception would be different.

"Some have suggested that President Obama wasn't born in this country..." It's their old game. "Oh, I know it's not what the election SHOULD turn on, but will it?!" :rolleyes:



And the irony is several of their corporate backers love high gas prices because it increases their profit margins. It was a guy named Dick Cheney who criticized President Clinton because the price of gas was too low. Those were the days, eh?
It's almost as if there is a discrepancy between what the people who benefit from Republican rule want and the slop they dole out to their voters.
 
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That's brilliant. "Anyone who opposes me is in league with the Devil! Are you against me?"

"When did you stop beating your wife?"

Reminds me of a little movie called Star Wars where Palpatine said if you aren't with the Empire than you are against it.
 
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