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leswp1
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no math !!Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I heard this about Virginia also. Because he was only facing Paul, The Mittster had one office open in the state. Obama has 5 set up already. Now I don't think that means Obama is a lock to win VA, but its going to force Romney to spend time and money there. Not sure why he doesn't use the primaries as an opportunity to set up shop in these places unless his campaign truly is running short on funds and is relying heavily on super PAC's (which can't set up a campaign office for him) to get him the nomination.
I heard this about Virginia also. Because he was only facing Paul, The Mittster had one office open in the state. Obama has 5 set up already. Now I don't think that means Obama is a lock to win VA, but its going to force Romney to spend time and money there. Not sure why he doesn't use the primaries as an opportunity to set up shop in these places unless his campaign truly is running short on funds and is relying heavily on super PAC's (which can't set up a campaign office for him) to get him the nomination.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Wallace's plan was to throw the election to the House where he would have some room to maneuver, and he came very, very close. It's an interesting story.
Yes, but it may not have changed the election result (this is one of those perennial poli sci questions, like "What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?")
Wallace's plan was to throw the election to the House where he would have some room to maneuver, and he came very, very close. It's an interesting story.
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I for one am glad to see this alliance out in the open. Now can we ship them both off the planet?
I for one am glad to see this alliance out in the open. Now can we ship them both off the planet?
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Priceless
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Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Rush has now lost 35 sponsors. I imagine his radio show now sounds like a PBS pledge drive.
Rush has now lost 35 sponsors. I imagine his radio show now sounds like a PBS pledge drive.
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I was amused by some conservatives calling for Santorum to leave the race as he has nothing to gain by continuing. Nothing can be further from the truth. Given that in 1980, 88, 96, and 2008 the party nominated the "next in line" candidate, why wouldn't Santorum stay in the race to amass delegates and wins in Alabama, Missisippi, Texas, Arkansas, Nebraska, etc etc - all the places that are a wasteland for Romney. No, he won't win enough delegates to counter when NY and CA go to Mittens, but who cares? As a relatively young guy, he could capitalize on a Romney loss by saying he wasn't conservative enough. If Romney wins there's no race on the GOP in 4 years anyway, so nothing lost. Worst case scenario he gets a gig on Fox or talk radio. I hear their might be a prominent slot opening up....
I was amused by some conservatives calling for Santorum to leave the race as he has nothing to gain by continuing. Nothing can be further from the truth. Given that in 1980, 88, 96, and 2008 the party nominated the "next in line" candidate, why wouldn't Santorum stay in the race to amass delegates and wins in Alabama, Missisippi, Texas, Arkansas, Nebraska, etc etc - all the places that are a wasteland for Romney. No, he won't win enough delegates to counter when NY and CA go to Mittens, but who cares? As a relatively young guy, he could capitalize on a Romney loss by saying he wasn't conservative enough. If Romney wins there's no race on the GOP in 4 years anyway, so nothing lost. Worst case scenario he gets a gig on Fox or talk radio. I hear their might be a prominent slot opening up....
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So, Michaud stays out to avoid a showdown with Pingree. Pingree then stays out to avoid a showdown with King.
I knew Angus King was popular, but I didn't remember him being such a rock star. There are only 100 senate jobs in the country, and they don't change party all that often. It's kind of a major deal. Yet the Democratic party is basically folding, and giving someone else a clear path to the Senate . . . unless there were some closed-door conversations. Some quid-pro-quo along the lines of:
"Neither of us wants a LePage in the Senate. I'll (Angus) pinkie-swear to caucus with the Dems if you folks back away from this election. Collins may be weaker now without Snowe -- maybe aim your top candidates at her?"
So, Michaud stays out to avoid a showdown with Pingree. Pingree then stays out to avoid a showdown with King.
I knew Angus King was popular, but I didn't remember him being such a rock star. There are only 100 senate jobs in the country, and they don't change party all that often. It's kind of a major deal. Yet the Democratic party is basically folding, and giving someone else a clear path to the Senate . . . unless there were some closed-door conversations. Some quid-pro-quo along the lines of:
"Neither of us wants a LePage in the Senate. I'll (Angus) pinkie-swear to caucus with the Dems if you folks back away from this election. Collins may be weaker now without Snowe -- maybe aim your top candidates at her?"
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I hope he wouldn't lower himself. The thing about the Foxies and the Echo Chamber is that at the end of the day, they're turds who will say and do anything for the almighty dollar. Santorum is horrendously wrong about many things, but he seems to me to at least be honest (or as honest as any politician can be).Worst case scenario he gets a gig on Fox or talk radio. I hear their might be a prominent slot opening up....
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Who ironically got into trouble by talking about prominent slots.
I hear their might be a prominent slot opening up....
Who ironically got into trouble by talking about prominent slots.
duper
Well-known member
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I actually think people are making too much of Rush's debacle as well. Yes, he was a little bit more of an a-hole that day than usual, and what he said probably did fit the legal definition of slander, and he obviously is not sorry about it. However, I just don't see the benefit in getting in a tizzy every time a buffoon commits buffoonery.
I will say this. I will be SHOCKED if Rush does not have a popular radio show a year from now, two years from now, five years from now... until he either decides to retire, or the idiots who listen to him and think he's not a buffoon wise up. So, you know, until he retires.
I actually think people are making too much of Rush's debacle as well. Yes, he was a little bit more of an a-hole that day than usual, and what he said probably did fit the legal definition of slander, and he obviously is not sorry about it. However, I just don't see the benefit in getting in a tizzy every time a buffoon commits buffoonery.
I will say this. I will be SHOCKED if Rush does not have a popular radio show a year from now, two years from now, five years from now... until he either decides to retire, or the idiots who listen to him and think he's not a buffoon wise up. So, you know, until he retires.
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that's the trouble right there. I read a blog today about how the 35 Clear Channel advertisers who asked not to be aired on his program came out of a pool of some number in the thousands of advertisers on Clear Channel. Those slots are transferred to others, some of whom have specifically asked to get more time on Limbaugh to stand up for "free speech."
You're absolutely right that the power rests with the listeners. Stations that are pressured into cancelling him cost him ears, which ultimately hurts a lot more than shuffling ad dollars around between programs. I don't have a lot of hope for improving "the tone" either. Part of the hopelessness is when you read the quotes of what Olbermann, Maher, etc. get away with saying that are swept under the rug. The media "outrage" is too politically selective to do any good.
that's the trouble right there. I read a blog today about how the 35 Clear Channel advertisers who asked not to be aired on his program came out of a pool of some number in the thousands of advertisers on Clear Channel. Those slots are transferred to others, some of whom have specifically asked to get more time on Limbaugh to stand up for "free speech."
You're absolutely right that the power rests with the listeners. Stations that are pressured into cancelling him cost him ears, which ultimately hurts a lot more than shuffling ad dollars around between programs. I don't have a lot of hope for improving "the tone" either. Part of the hopelessness is when you read the quotes of what Olbermann, Maher, etc. get away with saying that are swept under the rug. The media "outrage" is too politically selective to do any good.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Howard Stern effect. Probably a third to half his audience are moderates and libs who listen just to hear what outrageous thing he'll say next, so they can get their daily dose of poutrage.
Howard Stern effect. Probably a third to half his audience are moderates and libs who listen just to hear what outrageous thing he'll say next, so they can get their daily dose of poutrage.
duper
Well-known member
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I would be that the fraction is a good deal less than that (I'm thinking around a quarter) but it is a strong point nevertheless. And even if Clear Channel shows him the door, he will have another job the next day. Or the next week. But soon enough.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Libs who listen to Rush (if there are any) aren't feigning being offended, trust me. That's like saying Bob reads our immigration posts for poutrage. Nuh unh. That head-popping is the real thing.
I assume Rush's audience is about 30% true believers who mainline his brand of hatred, and 70% bored truckers with nothing else to do but run down Priuses (Pria?) between Waffle House bimbos and fenproporex hits.
(blows whistle) Incorrect use of "poutrage." Ten yards.
Libs who listen to Rush (if there are any) aren't feigning being offended, trust me. That's like saying Bob reads our immigration posts for poutrage. Nuh unh. That head-popping is the real thing.
I assume Rush's audience is about 30% true believers who mainline his brand of hatred, and 70% bored truckers with nothing else to do but run down Priuses (Pria?) between Waffle House bimbos and fenproporex hits.
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leswp1
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Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Listen to a steady diet of anything long enough and it will seem right and real.(blows whistle) Incorrect use of "poutrage." Ten yards.
Libs who listen to Rush (if there are any) aren't feigning being offended, trust me. That's like saying Bob reads our immigration posts for poutrage. Nuh unh. That head-popping is the real thing.
I assume Rush's audience is about 30% true believers who mainline his brand of hatred, and 70% bored truckers with nothing else to do but run down Priuses (Pria?) between Waffle House bimbos and fenproporex hits.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Foxton
Banned
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
In what way does he win except with a bunch of scumbags who would have supported him anyways?
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