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Hey I've got an idea. How about Jan Brewer for Prez? Just put pictures of her on the border and all the illegals will be running back home screaming like Banshees!
duper
Well-known member
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Fortunately, most of us are capable of ignoring the media. Of course, I try to demonize things conservative, but that's only because those things are demonic.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Precisely. This obvious point is ignore by dittoheads at all costs. Not related to the following...
Compare said acreage from then until now relative to the following: World population, total number of cars, trucks, boats, planes, mechanical equipment, power plants, and in the end total carbon output. While the acreage might be only slightly less I doubt the same can be said for our footprint.
Precisely. This obvious point is ignore by dittoheads at all costs. Not related to the following...
Compare said acreage from then until now relative to the following: World population, total number of cars, trucks, boats, planes, mechanical equipment, power plants, and in the end total carbon output. While the acreage might be only slightly less I doubt the same can be said for our footprint.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
leswp1
New member
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I find it amazing that the coverage is almost never on what the issues being hammered out and mostly on what the polls are saying. How in the world do the general populace make up their minds about a candidate when no one ever talks about what they actually stand for? (OK, that is a silly question. Most of them baa like sheep no matter what side they are on) Maybe a better question is how does anyone hear enough to get riled up about the 'issues when no one covers them and just the polls?
Really? Around here the only time Obama seems to be mentioned is when they tell us how the GOP is going to be able to use [insert whatever the flavor of the day is] against him in the election and in the context of what the GOP candidates are saying about him. Other than that he isn't getting a whole lot of mention except for fluff stuff. It is all GOP candidates- mostly what polls are saying. Either you are hypersensitive to any positive mention of him or your media market is way different. This is possible. The whole primary thing hasn't hit us yet. We just get to watch the pain of those who are in the throes of it.
I find it amazing that the coverage is almost never on what the issues being hammered out and mostly on what the polls are saying. How in the world do the general populace make up their minds about a candidate when no one ever talks about what they actually stand for? (OK, that is a silly question. Most of them baa like sheep no matter what side they are on) Maybe a better question is how does anyone hear enough to get riled up about the 'issues when no one covers them and just the polls?
Well the Dems tried using Janet Napolitano. That didn't exactly work as advertised.
I have an idea or two...
1) Improve the Mexican economy so that people run THERE instead.
2) Buy Mexico.
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
les, Bob is getting to work on his excuses for the arse kicking his Presidential candidate is going to take in November. Kudos to him for being proactive I guess.
les, Bob is getting to work on his excuses for the arse kicking his Presidential candidate is going to take in November. Kudos to him for being proactive I guess.
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
You are overly optimistic of the public's ability to ignore the media. They constantly put Obama in a positive light over something, when a few years back they'd lambast Bush for doing the same thing, it will influence some people. Where Bush was slashing a budget, Obama is making the tough calls. Just saw a couple articles yesterday about how Obama is considering a new Keystone pipeline proposal, how open he is to it, etc. Might as well have been written by the WH PR people. And on and on.
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Bob, 40 years ago lets say the media was overtly leftist. As I wasn't born yet I'll take your word. However since the dawn of the Clinton era conservative whining about media bias is nonsense. All the most well known talk radio and cable hosts are staunch righties (Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, Beck, O'Reilly). Furthermore, there's a whole network (Fox) dedicated to your cause. Yes internet media/blogs/etc are left leaning, but that's probably because the average age of conservatives is like 80 years old.
There is also something else for you to consider, which is how the extreme reaction to all things Obama by the GOP gets covered. For example, how would you personally like the MSM to report on the validity of every GOP candidate's claim that ratifying the latest arms treaty with Russia was going to leave the US unable to defend itself in a nuclear attack? Should they give that obvious falsehood credence, or should they call it out even if it ends up making those Republicans look stupid?
Bob, 40 years ago lets say the media was overtly leftist. As I wasn't born yet I'll take your word. However since the dawn of the Clinton era conservative whining about media bias is nonsense. All the most well known talk radio and cable hosts are staunch righties (Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, Beck, O'Reilly). Furthermore, there's a whole network (Fox) dedicated to your cause. Yes internet media/blogs/etc are left leaning, but that's probably because the average age of conservatives is like 80 years old.
There is also something else for you to consider, which is how the extreme reaction to all things Obama by the GOP gets covered. For example, how would you personally like the MSM to report on the validity of every GOP candidate's claim that ratifying the latest arms treaty with Russia was going to leave the US unable to defend itself in a nuclear attack? Should they give that obvious falsehood credence, or should they call it out even if it ends up making those Republicans look stupid?
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
GOP reactions to Obama are no more extreme than the Dem reactions to Bush were for eight years (yes, I know, when you react it's justified, when those you oppose react, it's not justified). Just to note, in case anyone has a short memory. Extreme reactions aren't generally called for or helpful, but at the very least it cuts both ways if you stop and take off your partisan glasses for a moment.
Conservatives have one network, you and yours have numerous networks. Talk radio is popular with bombastic conservatives (I find it pretty useless), but is only so because liberals dominate all other media forms. Go look on Google's news page and when a story comes out, there's about ten articles from liberal sources for every one article from a conservative source. Sometimes I just give up trying to find an article on a story that doesn't parrot the liberal view of things.Bob, 40 years ago lets say the media was overtly leftist. As I wasn't born yet I'll take your word. However since the dawn of the Clinton era conservative whining about media bias is nonsense. All the most well known talk radio and cable hosts are staunch righties (Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, Beck, O'Reilly). Furthermore, there's a whole network (Fox) dedicated to your cause. Yes internet media/blogs/etc are left leaning, but that's probably because the average age of conservatives is like 80 years old.
There is also something else for you to consider, which is how the extreme reaction to all things Obama by the GOP gets covered. For example, how would you personally like the MSM to report on the validity of every GOP candidate's claim that ratifying the latest arms treaty with Russia was going to leave the US unable to defend itself in a nuclear attack? Should they give that obvious falsehood credence, or should they call it out even if it ends up making those Republicans look stupid?
GOP reactions to Obama are no more extreme than the Dem reactions to Bush were for eight years (yes, I know, when you react it's justified, when those you oppose react, it's not justified). Just to note, in case anyone has a short memory. Extreme reactions aren't generally called for or helpful, but at the very least it cuts both ways if you stop and take off your partisan glasses for a moment.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Bob's so far to the right it colors his entire view of the media. "Well, that's to the left of me and I disagree with it, so it's a liberal outlet." It's not worth discussing with him because you aren't going to be able to wrap your head around his point of view, nor is he going to be able to see it from yours.
Bob's so far to the right it colors his entire view of the media. "Well, that's to the left of me and I disagree with it, so it's a liberal outlet." It's not worth discussing with him because you aren't going to be able to wrap your head around his point of view, nor is he going to be able to see it from yours.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
If you want a relatively balanced source of political news, I would recommend RCP. It feels to me like it's about 2:1 right wing, which means it's probably about 50/50. It's just like watching a hockey game: the officials always seem to call it tighter against you than your opponent. Everybody feels like that. Selective perception FTW.
Depends what you're talking about. If you Google climate change, well yeah, you're going to get 10 (or 100, or 1000) sources "parroting the liberal view of things" because that's an objectively measurable subject and the quote conservative unquote view is a fraud. On matters of actual opinion the sites are going to follow the money, and with the country split 50/50 the red meat will split 50/50 too -- Capitalism 101.
If you want a relatively balanced source of political news, I would recommend RCP. It feels to me like it's about 2:1 right wing, which means it's probably about 50/50. It's just like watching a hockey game: the officials always seem to call it tighter against you than your opponent. Everybody feels like that. Selective perception FTW.
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FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I'm probably only going to vote for Ron Paul. Why? He has principles when it comes to specific issues, he stands behind his principles, and I agree with those principles. It's exactly the same reason why I voted for W in 2004. I'd feel much more comfortable with voting if I didn't feel like I was picking between the lesser of two evils (i.e. a ****** and a turd).
I cannot stand Fox Snooze; they don't even report actual news, just a bunch of entertainment stuff. The liberal outlets just plain miss the mark.
I'm probably only going to vote for Ron Paul. Why? He has principles when it comes to specific issues, he stands behind his principles, and I agree with those principles. It's exactly the same reason why I voted for W in 2004. I'd feel much more comfortable with voting if I didn't feel like I was picking between the lesser of two evils (i.e. a ****** and a turd).
I cannot stand Fox Snooze; they don't even report actual news, just a bunch of entertainment stuff. The liberal outlets just plain miss the mark.
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Hey, I call them the way I see them. But, I guess recognizing that the media isn't perfect and is biased makes me a wacko in this black-is-white and white-is-black nation we now live in. So be it.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Not only that, but also when they combine issues into one black-and-white label. You just have to love the assumption of negative cases. -_-
Not only that, but also when they combine issues into one black-and-white label. You just have to love the assumption of negative cases. -_-
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