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2012 D1 BCS thread
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Usc can still make it an Alabama lsu final
Didn't they just do that matchup last year??
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
With Barkley's shoulder on the Rose Bowl turf and Kiffin the coach still?
Edit: I don't think Oregon drops past Georgia at 5 anyway. Florida could pass with a win at FSU, but LSU has what, Arkansas? Yeah, no.
With Barkley's shoulder on the Rose Bowl turf and Kiffin the coach still?
Edit: I don't think Oregon drops past Georgia at 5 anyway. Florida could pass with a win at FSU, but LSU has what, Arkansas? Yeah, no.
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
And the SEC weasels its way back into the title picture.
And the SEC weasels its way back into the title picture.
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Disagree. ND has the best defense and a much better offense than most people think—it's been hidden partly by poor special teams play and partly by playing a lot of really good defenses. Special teams could cost the Irish the game, but I'd expect it to be competitive.
Disagree. ND has the best defense and a much better offense than most people think—it's been hidden partly by poor special teams play and partly by playing a lot of really good defenses. Special teams could cost the Irish the game, but I'd expect it to be competitive.
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Even though Notre Dame is my 2nd favorite team, I was hoping for K-State to pull through at least to the title game. They blew their last chance in, I think, 1998 by losing the Big XII title in overtime to aTm and who knows how many chances they'll ever get. I'm all in for Notre Dame now.
Even though Notre Dame is my 2nd favorite team, I was hoping for K-State to pull through at least to the title game. They blew their last chance in, I think, 1998 by losing the Big XII title in overtime to aTm and who knows how many chances they'll ever get. I'm all in for Notre Dame now.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
The Rutgers thing is more interesting now that you hear that FOX is buying part of YES and wants to basically make it if you want YES on cable, you have to take BTN as well.
The Rutgers thing is more interesting now that you hear that FOX is buying part of YES and wants to basically make it if you want YES on cable, you have to take BTN as well.
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
I certainly agree with you that the questions of whether the current selection criteria are good (or even adequate) is separate from the question of whether the selection criteria is biased in such a way that it unfairly inflates the SEC's BCS record. I certainly would answer those two questions differently!
And, just to make all the SEC haters sweat, imagine these 4 results:
USC over Notre Dame (plausible- say 40%?)
Florida over Florida State (toss up - 50%)
Georgia over Georgia Tech (90%)
Alabama over Auburn (98%)
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Overall probability = 18%
I suspect that this sequence of events would give us the SEC champ (Alabama or Georgia) vs. Florida in the BCS title game no matter what happens elsewhere.
Sorry for the late reply (traveled to a family funeral this weekend), but you most definitely have....one can question the values underlying a selection system while steering clear of whining and hating. Hope I've accomplished at least that.
I certainly agree with you that the questions of whether the current selection criteria are good (or even adequate) is separate from the question of whether the selection criteria is biased in such a way that it unfairly inflates the SEC's BCS record. I certainly would answer those two questions differently!
And, just to make all the SEC haters sweat, imagine these 4 results:
USC over Notre Dame (plausible- say 40%?)
Florida over Florida State (toss up - 50%)
Georgia over Georgia Tech (90%)
Alabama over Auburn (98%)
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Overall probability = 18%
I suspect that this sequence of events would give us the SEC champ (Alabama or Georgia) vs. Florida in the BCS title game no matter what happens elsewhere.
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
What are the numbers on both of those networks right now anyways??
Or even a more disgusting thought, if you want the BTN, you have to shell out for YES as well.
What are the numbers on both of those networks right now anyways??
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
**** Florida and their two combined offensive touchdowns scored vs. ULL and Jacksonville State. Hope FSU crushes them by 4 TDs.
**** Florida and their two combined offensive touchdowns scored vs. ULL and Jacksonville State. Hope FSU crushes them by 4 TDs.
If ND were a boxer, they'd be a counterpuncher with a mean left hook... They will need to play good D, hope the TO battle goes their way and hope Golson/Wood produce 1 big play each.
20-17 ND
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Your percentages are completely meaningless given that all of those are rivalry games. I wouldn't even put Alabama over Auburn at anything higher than maybe 75-80%. To put Georgia over Georgia Tech at 90% is laughable. I'm on board with the Florida-Florida State being closer to 50%, although I would give FSU the slight edge. I would also put USC-Notre Dame closer to 50%, given that it is at USC.
I'm by no means an SEC hater. It is the best college football conference (at least the top half) by far. I just completely disagree with your percentages, and your apparent bias.
Your percentages are completely meaningless given that all of those are rivalry games. I wouldn't even put Alabama over Auburn at anything higher than maybe 75-80%. To put Georgia over Georgia Tech at 90% is laughable. I'm on board with the Florida-Florida State being closer to 50%, although I would give FSU the slight edge. I would also put USC-Notre Dame closer to 50%, given that it is at USC.
I'm by no means an SEC hater. It is the best college football conference (at least the top half) by far. I just completely disagree with your percentages, and your apparent bias.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Agreed. Notre Dame's defense is just as good as Alabama's, and I think offensively the teams are fairly similar. Special Teams would likely decide the game, so I would probably weigh Alabama as the favorite. That being said, I think it would be a 1-score game one way or the other.
Agreed. Notre Dame's defense is just as good as Alabama's, and I think offensively the teams are fairly similar. Special Teams would likely decide the game, so I would probably weigh Alabama as the favorite. That being said, I think it would be a 1-score game one way or the other.
IrishWildcat
Holding onto what I haven't got
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Couldn't agree with that point more. 7 schools held the Irish under 30 points, a list, along with their Nat'l Rank in points against
BYU - 7th (14.7 PPG)
Stanford - 10th (16.9)
Michigan St. - 10th (16.9)
Michigan - 17th (18.1)
Pitt - 31st (22.7)
Purdue is ranked 70th, and BC is ranked 81st. ND clearly underperformed in those games.
On the flip side, they scored 30+ on Wake Forest (80th), Miami (75th), Navy (37th), and in what was by far their best game of the season...Oklahoma (29th).
Side note: for all the chest-puffing about the SEC having the toughest schedules, and being the best conference...when your top teams are playing Western Carolina, Georgia Southern, Wofford, and Jacksonville State at the end of the season...it's tough to hear that with a straight face.
Couldn't agree with that point more. 7 schools held the Irish under 30 points, a list, along with their Nat'l Rank in points against
BYU - 7th (14.7 PPG)
Stanford - 10th (16.9)
Michigan St. - 10th (16.9)
Michigan - 17th (18.1)
Pitt - 31st (22.7)
Purdue is ranked 70th, and BC is ranked 81st. ND clearly underperformed in those games.
On the flip side, they scored 30+ on Wake Forest (80th), Miami (75th), Navy (37th), and in what was by far their best game of the season...Oklahoma (29th).
Side note: for all the chest-puffing about the SEC having the toughest schedules, and being the best conference...when your top teams are playing Western Carolina, Georgia Southern, Wofford, and Jacksonville State at the end of the season...it's tough to hear that with a straight face.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Are you suggesting that the SEC is not the best conference? Or, just that their teams have cream puff schedules?
Are you suggesting that the SEC is not the best conference? Or, just that their teams have cream puff schedules?
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
IrishWildcat
Holding onto what I haven't got
Re: 2012 D1 BCS thread
Their teams having cream puff schedules: fact...especially when you look at OOC skeds
SEC not being the best conference: just my opinion...I'd say the Big XII is the best top-to-bottom conference, as evidenced by Saturday night's events, amongst others.
Their teams having cream puff schedules: fact...especially when you look at OOC skeds
SEC not being the best conference: just my opinion...I'd say the Big XII is the best top-to-bottom conference, as evidenced by Saturday night's events, amongst others.
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