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2012 D1 BCS thread

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Bull ****ing ****. Of course the refs handed ND that last drive in regulation. How many times did the ref have to shove a broomstick up his *** before there was enough room for Bian Kelly's dick?
 
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MavHockey14 said:
No offense to you personally, but I absolutely hate Dantonio and Michigan State and that win today was so gratifying. Old time defensive football. So proud of the defense. They've been the ones everyone was thinking would be a struggle this year but they are playing so hard and doing it well. This is a fun, take it one game at a time football team that is gonna be fun to follow to the finish.

Beat Michigan and Nebraska please. Thanks.;)
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Is there a reason Iowa fans hate Dantonio? I don't understand it.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Is there a reason Iowa fans hate Dantonio? I don't understand it.
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Dantonio and his staff tried stealing a few recruits the night before signing day by saying that due to the rhambdo cases at Iowa Ferentz and his staff were going to be fired for allowing drugs(steroids) to be used.

Also the fact that his teams are known, and likely taught, to "fake" injuries to disrupt the flow of opposing offenses.

Have I mentioned that his teams are dirty? Eye gouging? Gohlston last year?
 
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MavHockey14 said:
FWIW, Mike Prereira the ex NFL head of officials, said after his review it was a TD never signaled he was down and never lost forward progress, ball crosses line.
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Pereira's full of it.

Firstly, available evidence indicates that the side referee had blown the play dead and ND players had stopped playing due to the whistle.

But then, even if the play continued, there's enough question about his elbow being down before the ball broke the plane that you can't overturn the call on the field (and, by the same token, I would say that you couldn't have overturned a TD call). I think that most likely he was down, but the standard of review is higher even than that.



Not to mention that even if Stanford had been awarded the touchdown, and had converted the extra point (not necessarily a given the way the weather was), then ND would be on defense first in the second OT which is worth what, a 60-40 advantage?

Furthermore, I find all the whining about the refs being in ND's pocket funny because it was a Pac-12 crew. Has everyone forgotten how notorious the Pac-whatever has been in the past for being in the pocket of the Pac-whatever team? I can't say that they called the game unevenly, but I will say that Stanford's offensive line got away with at least two flagrant holds (in the style of an arm across the chest of an ND pass rusher going by the Stanford lineman) on plays that produced positive yardage. I'm not talking about the ticky-tack "you can call holding on any play" stuff, I'm talking obvious, flagrant holds that affected the play.
 
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MavHockey14 said:
Dantonio and his staff tried stealing a few recruits the night before signing day by saying that due to the rhambdo cases at Iowa Ferentz and his staff were going to be fired for allowing drugs(steroids) to be used.

Also the fact that his teams are known, and likely taught, to "fake" injuries to disrupt the flow of opposing offenses.

Have I mentioned that his teams are dirty? Eye gouging? Gohlston last year?
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Either I don't follow D1-A football like I used to, or you're approaching conspiracy territory, because I've never heard any of this about Dantonio, and I hate Michigan State.
 
Craig P. said:
Pereira's full of it.

Firstly, available evidence indicates that the side referee had blown the play dead and ND players had stopped playing due to the whistle.

But then, even if the play continued, there's enough question about his elbow being down before the ball broke the plane that you can't overturn the call on the field (and, by the same token, I would say that you couldn't have overturned a TD call). I think that most likely he was down, but the standard of review is higher even than that.



Not to mention that even if Stanford had been awarded the touchdown, and had converted the extra point (not necessarily a given the way the weather was), then ND would be on defense first in the second OT which is worth what, a 60-40 advantage?

Furthermore, I find all the whining about the refs being in ND's pocket funny because it was a Pac-12 crew. Has everyone forgotten how notorious the Pac-whatever has been in the past for being in the pocket of the Pac-whatever team? I can't say that they called the game unevenly, but I will say that Stanford's offensive line got away with at least two flagrant holds (in the style of an arm across the chest of an ND pass rusher going by the Stanford lineman) on plays that produced positive yardage. I'm not talking about the ticky-tack "you can call holding on any play" stuff, I'm talking obvious, flagrant holds that affected the play.
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I agree the call on the field stands regardless of what it was. I don't give a ****, just sayin'.:)
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Either I don't follow D1-A football like I used to, or you're approaching conspiracy territory, because I've never heard any of this about Dantonio, and I hate Michigan State.
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Big Ten coaches are weirdos about recruiting. Every so often one of them whines about some other conference coach "stealing their recruits" by continuing to recruit them after they commit months before they can sign like there's some gentlemen's deal that if Joe Blow commits to Purdue, no one in the Big Ten should even talk to him.

This is my primary reason I expect Urban Meyer to stomp a mudhole in the Big Ten until he gets bored.
 
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Can someone explain to me what the purpose of having review is if you still clearly get something wrong? Stanford was jobbed today.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Either I don't follow D1-A football like I used to, or you're approaching conspiracy territory, because I've never heard any of this about Dantonio, and I hate Michigan State.
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There's one instance of negative recruiting, and that's with Cooper. Iowa is also the only fan base I've seen talk about faking injuries, because we had guys going down in a game we were up 20 in IC last year.

Are we dirty? Yes, this team could use some more discipline but they've been better this year. The eye gouging incident was reviewed and there was nothing found. Gholston? Yeah, he overreacted last year against UM but he's been fine ever since.

Now onto next week. I have little confidence in this offense. My only hope is that the "anything can happen" rivalry game situation occurs. It will be my first trip to the Big House, so hopefully I'll be treated with a win, but I'm not banking on it in the slightest.
 
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J.D. said:
Can someone explain to me what the purpose of having review is if you still clearly get something wrong? Stanford was jobbed today.
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Rather than repeat myself... http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?101079-2012-D1-BCS-thread&p=5520358&viewfull=1#post5520358

Jobbed isn't the replay official making the correct call. Jobbed is the replay official denying David Grimes an amazing TD catch due to an invented failure to get his hands under the ball.
 
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Craig P. said:
Pereira's full of it.

Firstly, available evidence indicates that the side referee had blown the play dead and ND players had stopped playing due to the whistle.

But then, even if the play continued, there's enough question about his elbow being down before the ball broke the plane that you can't overturn the call on the field (and, by the same token, I would say that you couldn't have overturned a TD call). I think that most likely he was down, but the standard of review is higher even than that.



Not to mention that even if Stanford had been awarded the touchdown, and had converted the extra point (not necessarily a given the way the weather was), then ND would be on defense first in the second OT which is worth what, a 60-40 advantage?

Furthermore, I find all the whining about the refs being in ND's pocket funny because it was a Pac-12 crew. Has everyone forgotten how notorious the Pac-whatever has been in the past for being in the pocket of the Pac-whatever team? I can't say that they called the game unevenly, but I will say that Stanford's offensive line got away with at least two flagrant holds (in the style of an arm across the chest of an ND pass rusher going by the Stanford lineman) on plays that produced positive yardage. I'm not talking about the ticky-tack "you can call holding on any play" stuff, I'm talking obvious, flagrant holds that affected the play.
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Which available evidence suggests the whistle was blown? I'm sure the refs would have loved to know that before they even bothered with reviewing something that happened on a play after the whistle was blown. And when the ground was completely covered with Notre Dame players there's no way Taylor's elbow was down.

But I'm sorry about those holding calls being missed, as this is the first time in the history of a football that that has happened in a game. I hope the ridiculous personal foul and pass interference calls on the tying FG drive made up for that.
 
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Come on, it was the ole intent to blow the whistle that we see in hockey!!! There was a replay where the RB clearly crossed the tip of the goal line with possession of the football. All I can think of is somehow the replay guy didn't have that angle.
 
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French Rage said:
Which available evidence suggests the whistle was blown?
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Wide angles showing and testimonials from fans in attendance stating that the side judge ran in signalling the ball was dead.

I'm sure the refs would have loved to know that before they even bothered with reviewing something that happened on a play after the whistle was blown.
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It's still legitimate to review whether he had broken the plane before the whistle blew. Moreover, there is a distressing lack of guidance in the rules on replays, such that it's theoretically possible that the replay official could ignore not only the whistle blowing, but players clearly stopping playing in reaction to the whistle (see Manti Te`o running away from the play).

And when the ground was completely covered with Notre Dame players there's no way Taylor's elbow was down.
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Watch the replays again. If his elbow was down (and it's inconclusive whether it was, but only the chance that it was is needed to uphold the no-TD call), it was in a spot where there were no ND players.
 
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