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2012-2013 schedules

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Schedules are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjrUzfoOPCB5dHBkczZYYUMwUHBBdGRFc3dGRVBNN0E#gid=0

Teams without a full complement of games, minus exhibitions (thus far):

Atlantic: (composite schedule released)
AIC - 1 NC :(
Army - 4 NC :(
Bentley - 1 NC :(
Air Force - 1 NC :(

ECAC: (league schedule released)
Harvard (NC only, we believe it is @BU)
Quinnipiac (NC only, 2 LSSU, 1 @ UMA, 1 unknown but suspect it could be Maine)

Hockey East:
Boston College - (12 Conf, 1 ND home, think it's Nov 9th but no confirmation)
Boston University (12 Conf, 1 Harvard)
Maine (12 Conf, 1 NC we think may be Q-Pac and possibly at Portland)
Mass Amherst (12 Conf, 1 QPac)
Vermont (12 Conf)

CCHA:
LSSU (4 Conf, 2 UAH, dates not yet confirmed)
Notre Dame (2 Conf, 1@BC, dates not yet confirmed)
Ohio State (6 Conf, 2@QPac)

WCHA: (all league dates known)
Nebraska Omaha - 2 NC :(

Independent: (all non-conference games)
Alabama Huntsville (2@LSSU, 8 NC)
 
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Are there any opponents/dates that work for AIC/Army/Air Force/Bentley?

Army vs Penn State or Alabama Huntsville?

Army is in the Ice Breaker, so they might only be looking for 2 more games.
 
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CornwallAce said:
Are there any opponents/dates that work for AIC/Army/Air Force/Bentley?

Army vs Penn State or Alabama Huntsville?

Army is in the Ice Breaker, so they might only be looking for 2 more games.
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Penn State's schedule is full. They only have 23 D-I games, but they have twelve games scheduled against club, D-III, or U18 teams (one of them is exempt), so they're at the 34-game limit.

UNO has two games available, but is playing in the Icebreaker and at Alaska, so they're unlikely to pick up another pair of games.

The only two other programs with non-conference slots open are Quinnipiac and Maine and there's speculation that they'll be playing each other.

So, that just leaves UAH who is still 8 games shy of the 34-game allotment.

Air Force only has one non-conference game left and a trip to / from Colorado / Alabama for just one game doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The Chargers are free on the weekends of Nov 16-17 and Nov 30-Dec 1, but the three AHA teams already have league games scheduled those weekends.

There is the possibility of the weekend before Christmas, but most teams take that off.

UAH isn't free again until the weekend of Jan 11th and the AHA has league games from that point through the rest of the season.

In short, unless they want to play each other in non-conference games, there aren't going to be any games added to the schedules of AIC, Army, Air Force, or Bentley.
 
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If I were UAH I would be asking UNO for a pair of games in Omaha and follow that up with a trip to Colorado to play Air Force a day or two later. I would think UNO may want to add two if they are at home. That could take care of some of the open NC games.
 
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If I were UAH I would be asking UNO for a pair of games in Omaha and follow that up with a trip to Colorado to play Air Force a day or two later. I would think UNO may want to add two if they are at home. That could take care of some of the open NC games.
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UAH is already playing a pair at UNO the weekend of Nov 23-24. UNO is playing an exhibition game against Lethbridge and another against the U18 team in addition to their 36 D-I games. I really don't see UNO adding any more games.
 
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So, that just leaves UAH who is still 8 games shy of the 34-game allotment.
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Know they at least have games with DIII adrian and finlandia (coached by former UAH asssitant) as well as the UA-Tuscaloosa club team - which sadly will probably sell out. Don't get me wrong, always good to get people in the building, but given there have have been some very good teams in town it says alot about things...
 
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IIRC, (Penn State) I thought there was a minimum number of games that you had to play for things to count... now is that an in-transition rule or is it "make the NCAAs" rule?
 
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Patman said:
IIRC, (Penn State) I thought there was a minimum number of games that you had to play for things to count... now is that an in-transition rule or is it "make the NCAAs" rule?
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You are correct. Check out the D-I Bylaws

The areas of interest are Sections 20.9.4.3 (p. 311) and 20.9.5.1 (p. 312)
20.9.4.3 Minimum Contests and Participants Requirements for Sports Sponsorship said:
In each sport, the institution's team shall engage in at least a minimum number of intercollegiate contests (against four-year, degree-granting collegiate institutions) each year... The following minimums are applicable:
Men's Ice Hockey 25
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20.9.5 Scheduling-Sports Other Than Football said:
20.9.5.1 Scheduling Requirement
In sports other than [those listed above] that a member institution uses to meet the Division I sports sponsorship criteria, an institution shall schedule and play 100 percent of its contests against Division I opponents to meet the minimum number of contests specified in Bylaw 20.9.4.3. The institution shall schedule and play at least 50 percent of its contests beyond the number specified in Bylaw 20.9.4.3 against Division I opponents.
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Now, as far as I can tell, all this means is that Penn State can't use hockey to say, "Hey, we have enough sports to be classified as a Division I school." But, since they already have that requirement easily filled, I don't think it's a problem.

I'm sure there are more pertinent bylaws and relevant text, but it's a 421-page document and I found what I believed to be useful.
 
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burgie12 said:
Why couldn't the Lakers and Chargers play the weekend of Feb 8th?
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I seem to remember that LSSU and Ohio State only have enough free weekends in common for their games, and one of them falls on that weekend. I am much too tired to check, though.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I seem to remember that LSSU and Ohio State only have enough free weekends in common for their games, and one of them falls on that weekend. I am much too tired to check, though.
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LSSU and Ohio State need to schedule four games and only share the open weekends of Nov 23/24 and Jan 25/26.

Notre Dame and the Buckeyes need to schedule a pair and could play them the weekend of Feb 1/2 or split it up to a couple of weekdays.

Qpac and tOSU are pretty much limited to Oct 19/20 or Nov 2/3. That fills Ohio State's schedule.

LSSU and UAH will play each other the weekend of Nov 16/17 or Feb 8/9.

That leaves just Qpac v Maine and UMass, BU v Harvard, BC v Notre Dame (probably Nov 9), and the remainder of the HEA schedule to flesh out.
 
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Patman said:
IIRC, (Penn State) I thought there was a minimum number of games that you had to play for things to count... now is that an in-transition rule or is it "make the NCAAs" rule?
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I came across some interesting quotes in Adam Wodon's USCHO article from when Findlay decided to drop hockey that I came across while I was doing research on the D-II Play-up Belt. You know it's an old article when Wodon is still writing for USCHO and not CHN.

Adam Wodon said:
In September 2000, the MAAC refused to allow its schools to play Findlay, because of a provision in its own by-laws that prohibits league members from play provisional D-I opponents. The move was widely criticized at the time, particularly because it cut eight games from Findlay’s schedule, dropping it below the 25-game threshold required for that season to count as one year of its provisional status. The hockey community scrambled to help Findlay add enough games to its schedule.
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Adam Wodon said:
Later, when the CHA was applying for an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament, there were questions surrounding the validity of Findlay’s full Division I status. Just after gaining acceptance in the NCAA as a Division II institution, Findlay announced its intention to move to Division I hockey. But the NCAA had just passed a nine-year moratorium on teams playing up. Findlay asked for a waiver to play up in hockey, and got it. But when the time came for the automatic bid, there were questions over Findlay’s paperwork regarding that waiver.
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Now, maybe that last part isn't entirely relevant to Penn State, but it is still interesting. To me, at least.
 
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