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2012-2013 North Dakota Hockey: Season Thread

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Tipsy McStagger said:
That is ridiculous. The Gophers couldn't choose to not play in the ACC/Big Ten challenge any more than they could choose to stay in the WCHA.
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That's why Indiana chose not to participate in it the first two years of its' existence.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Just asking you to play by the same rules you ask others to play by. Yes, I think it is much more likely there is a logical explanation than it being some conspiracy to leave UND off our schedule.

If Don wanted to play Notre Dame because of Mario, he could have done that and played UND. He would have just had to schedule UND instead of BC/Northeastern. But he didn't. At some point you're going to run out of conspiracy theories and realize it really was just about the nickname.
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Don't sell Dirty and his Whioux buddies short. They'll never run out of ridiculous conspiracy theories. It's just like how the WCHA refs have been out to get their poor choir boy players for years. :p
 
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goldy_331 said:
Don't sell Dirty and his Whioux buddies short. They'll never run out of ridiculous conspiracy theories. It's just like how the WCHA refs have been out to get their poor choir boy players for years. :p
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you.
 
Dirty said:
In other words, there is always an excuse why it's OK this time. When Minnesota wants to play a team with a Native American nickname, they'll think up a reason why it's OK. That's been my point the entire time. Thank You.
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In other words, you're clueless about the reasons and are just throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks.

Given that you clearly have nothing else to do and nowhere else to be, have at it.
 
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Dirty said:
I addressed FSU having a waiver from the NCAA already. Some of the games took place before the NCAA issued its' decree of Native American nicknames thus Minnesota only had its' own policy to go on. The other games that I referenced were almost certainly scheduled before the NCAA issued its' decree, so again Minnesota only had its' own policy to go on.
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What's your point? They were scheduled before the NCAA policy, but were they scheduled after the Univ. of MN policy?

Dirty said:
Lucia has not gone against the University policy, but given the number of times other Minnesota teams have played Florida State since the policy came into effect it's evident that the policy can and is disregarded from time to time. Lucia could have attempted disregard the policy if he really wanted to. But the UND games weren't that important to him, so he didn't. And let's say he did attempt to disregard the policy, why would the board of regents say no when they had no problem playing Florida State? My whole point here has been that Minnesota has a policy that it applies at times and ignores at other times. You seem to think I am on some sort of witch hunt against Lucia and I am not. Don't get mad at me because your University is inconsistent and I'm pointing it out.
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No, it's not evident at all. So far you have cited examples of games that were played the same academic year as the policy being approved, a game played against a team that had permission from the NCAA to use a Native American nickname, and a game to be played against a team that used to be on the "hostile and abusive" list but is no longer. How is there any evidence that this policy can be "disregarded from time to time" except for games that they are contractually bound to? The policy itself uses language such as "make every effort not to schedule home events" and "every effort not to host" rather than saying they "absolutely will not play, at any venue or under any circumstance". You are either not comprehending what the policy says, being lazy about reading it or choosing to ignore its implication.

As far as I can see, the only possible instance of the Univ. of MN ignoring its policy would be the basketball team playing FSU in Nov. 2004. Maybe they did just ignore the policy in that one instance....far more likely they played it due to contractual obligations with the Big 10 and the ACC.
And for the record, what Indiana did a number of years previously does not imply what contractual obligations may or may not have been in place in regards to the Univ. of MN in 2004.
 
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tipsy mcstagger said:
what reason does lucia have to lie? He has already said he doesn't care who doesn't like it, he is going to do what's best for the u of m. All the sioux fans who were crying about the logo can now move on to crying about this.
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thank you!!
 
mnstate0fhockey said:
BTW - I'm old enough to remember all the griping about continuing to play Michigan when they left for the CCHA. They ended up scheduling the showcase on an annual basis, but the rivalry wasn't the same as non-conference foes. The rivalry slowly faded to the point that it became just another OOC game. Those who think this rivalry will stay the same now that each team is in a different conference are fooling themselves.
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In ten years the rivalry will be the same as Michigan games today
 
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UND doesn't even need Minnesota on the schedule. UND sells out every game, regardless of opponent. Minnesota needs UND on the schedule to help them get those elusive sellouts.
 
cF[Authentic] said:
UND doesn't even need Minnesota on the schedule. UND sells out every game, regardless of opponent. Minnesota needs UND on the schedule to help them get those elusive sellouts.
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I think Minnesota is <a href="http://www.bcinterruption.com/2012/4/12/2942848/comparing-ncaa-college-hockey-revenues-for-2010">doing alright</a> and will be just fine without UND.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
I think Minnesota is <a href="http://www.bcinterruption.com/2012/4/12/2942848/comparing-ncaa-college-hockey-revenues-for-2010">doing alright</a> and will be just fine without UND.
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No, no, just because we take in a lot more revenue than UND and we fill the arena just fine with teams like Notre Dame and BC, it means nothing, we still need them. At least in CF's world.
 
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goldy_331 said:
No, no, just because we take in a lot more revenue than UND and we fill the arena just fine with teams like Notre Dame and BC, it means nothing, we still need them. At least in CF's world.
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I was just tying to point out that the attendance for UND games is higher than for other games, especially this year. Also, UND draws the same for games versus future conference mates as they did for Minnesota last year. So it seems that UND sells out everything, while the Gophers don't. And having another sellout is never a bad thing.

I don't know the details on the non-conference games vs ND and BC, however if the Gophers aren't doing a return trip then Minnesota is undoubtedly paying those schools to come in. Even in a one year series at Mariucci without a return trip, the cost to bring in North Dakota will be cheaper than a ND and BC just because of travel costs.
 
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:) This whole discussion is so much like a couple of high schoolers after breaking up. Who broke up with whom. Who is better off without the other.


All I know is that, even with all the fighting, those times in the back seat with Goldie were pretty good--no matter who ended up on top.
 
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burd said:
:) This whole discussion is so much like a couple of high schoolers after breaking up. Who broke up with whom. Who is better off without the other.


All I know is that, even with all the fighting, those times in the back seat with Goldie were pretty good--no matter who ended up on top.
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LOL! Will you respect Goldy in the morning?

There IS a lot of effort proving how each is so in love with their new conference relationship. All the while both are glancing to see if the other is watching them and jealous.
 
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