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2011 College Football: Occupy GameDay!

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LynahFan said:
Yeah, it's so much better when hopes and dreams are ended by a bunch of good ol' boys in smoke filled-rooms behind closed doors...

We have a 2-team playoff. There will very nearly always be more than 2 teams in the "argument" for inclusion, so no selection system is ever going to be satisfactory.
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Yeah, but if we had an 8 team playoff, that would at least cover the 4 best schools in the country that would have at least an arguement for being either number 1 or number 2.
MavHockey14 said:
I love this matchup now, just because Iowa got an Insight Bowl birth.

If at the start of this season you were to tell me the Hawkeyes would be playing #1 Oklahoma in their bowl game, I would've laughed.

Kirk Herbstriet said it best. "Is this really what bowls are coming down to? Teams get to play in BCS bowls due to how many fans will fill hotels and bring commerce to the area? It's not about what happens on the field anymore?"
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Its pretty much has always been that way. Hell, that's how the bowls got started in the first place. Pasadena had a parade and they were trying to figure out ways to get people to come out to see it.

dxmnkd316 said:
How epic would a Neuheisel & Zook PBP/Color pair be?
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Oh, please put a bottle of something strong in the booth and let em do shots!!!
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Those that follow at something more than a casual level understand that... But right now my Facebook is lit up by more than a few people saying XXXXXX deserves to be in the YOUR AD HERE Bowl over YYYYYYY... It's an argument that you can only make so many times before giving up... There are many reasons to hate the BCS, but hating it because a 6-6 team that travels well got picked over a 1 or 2 loss small school isn't one of them... That's fully on the bowls themselves...
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For the most part, the BCS is exactly like that, too. Most of the BCS bowls are "fixed" match ups based on conference, and only when there's a team that changes the match up do you see non traditional teams in games like the Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl. Sure, many of them will choose non AQ teams if they *have* to, but all bowls are there to make money, period. If the Sugar Bowl makes more money with VT and Michigan over BSU, and BSU isn't required to be taken since they didn't qualify, the better money will always, always, always be taken.

Bowls are not charity.
 
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MavHockey14 said:
My Top 5 Most Anticipated Bowls (excluding Iowa/Oklahoma for obvious reasons)

1. Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Stanford vs. Oklahoma State
2. Rose Bowl presented by Vizio: Oregon vs. Wisconsin
3. AT&T Cotton Kansas State vs. Arkansas
4. Capital One Bowl: Nebraska vs. South Carolina
5. Allstate BCS National Championship Game: LSU vs. Alabama
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I've almost always thought the Capital One Bowl is the most overlooked bowl in the entire bowl season. I often look forward to the Rose Bowl first and the Capital One second.
 
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LSU - Alabama ...Well, no reason to watch that, we all know what happens there. :rolleyes:

The whole thing ****es me off enough that I probably won't watch any bowl games this year. There are better things to watch on New Years Day, the Winter Classic and the WJC top the list above the stupid bowl games. And this is coming from someone that used to watch all of the major bowls.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
LSU - Alabama ...Well, no reason to watch that, we all know what happens there. :rolleyes:

The whole thing ****es me off enough that I probably won't watch any bowl games this year. There are better things to watch on New Years Day, the Winter Classic and the WJC top the list above the stupid bowl games. And this is coming from someone that used to watch all of the major bowls.
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Technically, you'll have the NFL to watch on New Year's Day. All the usual Jan. 1 bowls (and the Winter Classic too) are on the 2nd this year.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Technically, you'll have the NFL to watch on New Year's Day. All the usual Jan. 1 bowls (and the Winter Classic too) are on the 2nd this year.
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Oh, so I'm left with only WJC on New Years...I didn't realize they moved everything to Jan. 2nd, though it does make sense. It probably won't matter anyway, I'll most likely be wandering, hungover, around Chicago trying to find my hotel on Jan. 1st.
 
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So, my hope for this bowl season is that the rest of the country loses interest in the SEC Exhibition and the Rose Bowl ends up passing it as the highest rated bowl this season. I think there's a legit shot at it. That's probably the only way to get ESPN to pull their mouth off the SEC's knob, given the 2.25 billion reasons they're currently doing it for.
 
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bronconick said:
So, my hope for this bowl season is that the rest of the country loses interest in the SEC Exhibition and the Rose Bowl ends up passing it as the highest rated bowl this season. I think there's a legit shot at it. That's probably the only way to get ESPN to pull their mouth off the SEC's knob, given the 2.25 billion reasons they're currently doing it for.
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Heck, with the games so spread out, and they being played so late in the evening (EST wise), I've lost interest in the BCS games for a while now.

I may watch some of the Michigan game, but with an 8:30 start, I doubt I'll stay even until the half.

I know a lot of people go to bed late, but what's with all of the late starts? Most of the games will end at midnight or so, with all of the stuff that goes along with it. Fine for a Friday or Saturday night, and even ok once- like on Jan 2. But all week? I'm not planning on watching any of the games that start that late. I have to work.

I feel like an old person, except that I've been doing the 10pm, 6am thing since I was in my early 20's, so this new "thing" to put the games at prime time spread out through the week basically means that I miss them. Guess they don't want my advertising $$.

(oh, another complaint- the announcer for Fox's B10 and P12 championship games- has 2 voices, talking normally and VERY EXCITED- can't stand him)
 
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alfablue said:
(oh, another complaint- the announcer for Fox's B10 and P12 championship games- has 2 voices, talking normally and VERY EXCITED- can't stand him)
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You dare besmirch Gus Johnson? For shame.
 
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Unfortunately, the BCS got it right in that I think the two best teams are playing each other for the title.

My bigger problem with the Bowl System in general is that they don't properly reward teams with the "correct" Bowl. It's all based off of which teams will bring the most fans. In regard to the BCS games, I don't even have a problem with VT going to the Sugar Bowl. Only one team (a very good one) was able to beat them.

I'm a Michigan fan and fully realize they aren't deserving of a BCS game. There's a flaw in the system when Michigan State is hurt by playing in the Big Ten championship game and losing.
 
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Holy mismatches Batman! #7 Boise State, shafted by the Sugar Bowl, heads to something called the MAACO Bowl Las Vegas to face a 6-6 Arizona State team that totally fell apart at the end of the season, leading to Dennis Erickson's firing. That one could get real ugly real quick.
 
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J.D. said:
.... There's a flaw in the system when Michigan State is hurt by playing in the Big Ten championship game and losing.
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As opposed to the flaw that you don't even qualify to play in your own conference championship, yet still manage to make the championship game?

I know you *think* that the game is the best two teams, but I don't think this is the right way to go. Would Alabama still be in the game had LSU lost?

I personally think it's bad that a team who didn't even win their division can be in the NC game. But they will make a lot of money. Maybe.
 
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J.D. said:
I'm a Michigan fan and fully realize they aren't deserving of a BCS game. There's a flaw in the system when Michigan State is hurt by playing in the Big Ten championship game and losing.
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There's a flaw in the system when a team is punished for losing? That's just the way the rankings work. I didn't see anybody complaining when MSU went from unranked to 23rd in the polls just by sitting on the couch during their bye week. You don't get to change the rules halfway through just because Kirk Cousins thinks he's special.
 
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alfablue said:
(oh, another complaint- the announcer for Fox's B10 and P12 championship games- has 2 voices, talking normally and VERY EXCITED- can't stand him)
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They were absolutely awful. Was there a quirky play that decided the first meeting between the teams? They only mentioned the Hail Mary about 9,000 times. Obviously, the talking points sheet that dumb and dumber were given didn't have many bullet points.

Also - twice in the post game, they got the conference that they were covering wrong calling the game the Big 12 Championship and then the Pac 10 Championship.

Finally - how sweet was it that Brewster had to say semi-nice things about Bielema and Wisconsin? You could tell it was just KILLING him. Loved that!
 
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MaizeRage said:
There's a flaw in the system when a team is punished for losing? That's just the way the rankings work. I didn't see anybody complaining when MSU went from unranked to 23rd in the polls just by sitting on the couch during their bye week. You don't get to change the rules halfway through just because Kirk Cousins thinks he's special.
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Punished for losing a game Michigan couldn't qualify...ahead of Michigan State. Absolutely. And because MSU beat Michigan. I'm not an MSU fan, so I don't know what you're talking about with the rest of your post. I understand that's how it works. That doesn't mean I think it's right.

alfablue said:
As opposed to the flaw that you don't even qualify to play in your own conference championship, yet still manage to make the championship game?

I know you *think* that the game is the best two teams, but I don't think this is the right way to go. Would Alabama still be in the game had LSU lost?

I personally think it's bad that a team who didn't even win their division can be in the NC game. But they will make a lot of money. Maybe.
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If LSU lost to Georgia and Alabama made the title game against Oklahoma State...that would be similar. Going back to when Nebraska didn't make the Big 12 title game, but did make the BCS title game, I was against that. Because they got blown out against a Colorado team that had a couple/few losses. This year is just a very unique situation where Alabama's loss is better than any other team's loss. That's what it comes down to to me. The only reason Alabama didn't destroy Georgia is because the #1 team in the country was doing it. Nebraska couldn't say that.

If LSU lost to Georgia? We'd still probably have the rematch, although we can't know for sure.
 
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And for the people who are so against this, you should probably root for LSU to blowout Alabama and OK State to blowout Stanford. In the future, it's up to the other conference commissioners to get involved if they think this is such an injustice.
 
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