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2011 College Football: Occupy GameDay!

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dxmnkd316 said:
I've almost always thought the Capital One Bowl is the most overlooked bowl in the entire bowl season. I often look forward to the Rose Bowl first and the Capital One second.
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Usually this is how I look at the bowls as well, as a Big Ten guy.(I determined my list based on matchups) The Capital One Bowl is a great bowl game. It's top tier Big Ten, top tier SEC; it's awesome.

Interesting stat, the Big Ten got TEN bowl games. Wonder how they'll fare.
 
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Saw on ESPN that the Big 12 commissioner is pushing for the plus one model. That's what it's going to take...the commissioners outside the SEC saying enough is enough.

Just for the hell of it, let's say every conference champion was put in a playoff (seeding based off BCS standings):

1. LSU
2. Oklahoma State
3. Oregon
4. Wisconsin
5. Clemson
6. TCU
7. Southern Miss
8. West Virginia
9. Northern Illinois
10. Louisiana Tech
11. Arkansas State

**If you add in the top five at-large:

1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma State
4. Stanford
5. Oregon
6. Arkansas
7. Boise State
8. Kansas State
9. Wisconsin
10. Clemson
11. TCU
12. Southern Miss
13. West Virginia
14. Northern Illinois
15. Louisiana Tech
16. Arkansas State

1. LSU
16. Arkansas State

8. Kansas State
9. Wisconsin

5. Oregon
12. Southern Miss

4. Stanford
13. West Virginia

2. Alabama
15. Louisiana Tech

7. Boise State
10. Clemson

6. Arkansas
11. TCU

3. Oklahoma State
14. Northern Illinois

Yes, I know. This will never happen.
 
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bronconick said:
So, my hope for this bowl season is that the rest of the country loses interest in the SEC Exhibition and the Rose Bowl ends up passing it as the highest rated bowl this season...
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I'll join you in that. I'm not going to boycott the bowl whole season; I'll still watch as many of the Big Ten teams as I can. I'm also looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl. But my intention is to pass on the title game.

This isn't a huge sacrifice. With no one to root for, combined with the anti-climatic date and time, I won't miss it all that much. But more importantly, it's the only real way to "vote" against the rematch.

With the BCS so hopelessly flawed, it's hard to come up with decision rules that will work year after year. Circumstances do vary significantly from one season to the next. But here's my quick take on what's just transpired:

The fact that Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa may have the two most talented teams isn't a sufficient reason to replay their game. When you only have a one game playoff, the conference championship games and key regular season games become the early round playoff games by default. Once Saturday's games were in the book, LSU's presence in the final was a given. From there, I'd say anyone who LSU has already beaten is out. Instead, the season now becomes double-elimination for Alabama, single elimination for everyone else. That just doesn't work for me. Had every other plausible team had two or more losses, I might feel differently. But failing that, the one game playoff should be an interconference competition, between opponents who haven't already met.

Sifting through the rubble for positives, I'll give Les Miles full credit for his "It would be an honor to play that team again" remark. It was a savvy, classy thing to say. But the fact that some have learned to navigate through the mess with skill doesn't redeem the broken system.
 
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I'm looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl the most. Largely because I will be there.
 
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French Rage said:
I'm looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl the most. Largely because I will be there.
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It's an outstanding Pac12/Big 12 match-up; exactly what bowl games should be like. The fact you have a rooting interest doesn't diminish things. Up front, it's the best game of the bunch. Best of Luck to Stanford.;)
 
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pgb-ohio said:
Instead, the season now becomes double-elimination for Alabama, single elimination for everyone else.
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What are you talking about? Like Alabama, all the teams people would love to see in the title game have one loss too. It's double elimination for every candidate. It's really simple for me. Just compare all the one loss teams losses and it's a no brainer whose loss is the "best". Specifically in regard to Oklahoma State...they failed to beat a mediocre Iowa State team and people want to reward them? Sorry, but if LSU was on the schedule, OK State would have lost to them just like Alabama did. And it wouldn't have gone to OT.
 
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J.D. said:
Sorry, but if LSU was on the schedule, OK State would have lost to them just like Alabama did. And it wouldn't have gone to OT.
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You can't know this, no one can. You can believe it all you want but that doesn't make it anything more than an opinion.

It's impossible to say definitively if OK State of Alabama is a better team, both the computers and the voters were divided.

Because Alabama held a narrow advantage in the rankings, we will never know how a game between LSU and OSU would have gone.
 
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J.D. said:
Saw on ESPN that the Big 12 commissioner is pushing for the plus one model. That's what it's going to take...the commissioners outside the SEC saying enough is enough.
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I don't think it's the SEC that's the problem. If the Big 12 and Pac-12 have really had a change of heart in favor of plus one, it's just Delany and the B1G holding out.
 
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The SEC and ACC pushed the +1 format in 2008. the Big Ten and Pac 10 were against it, and convinced the Big East and Big XII that a +1 format would destroy their conferences.

...Whoops.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
The B1G and the P12 are probably still worried about the Rose Bowl, one would think.
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I suspect that would be the sticking point. It's one thing to lose the traditional match-up when one team is in the NC game, it's another to lose it so one team could have a chance to play in the NC game. While last years Rose Bowl game was an entertaining game, I would have much rather UW played (and lost to) Stanford than TCU. The Rose Bowl game is the Big10's only tie in with a Pac-12 team and I'd like to keep that as a meaningful match-up as much as possible.

As long as you make the BCS just the 2 semi-final games and the champ game and let the Rose keep it's traditional tie picking the top B10 and Pac12 teams that are not in the top 4 it might be something that can be negotiated. Do away with all of the autobids and just have it pick the top 4 from the BCS standings.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
The B1G and the P12 are probably still worried about the Rose Bowl, one would think.
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Rightfully so. It's the only bowl worth watching and the only bowl with any semblance of tradition. One where both teams that make it know how much it means (at least if they're from the Big Ten or Pac-12).
 
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To everyone that is claiming that the Rose Bowl has some sort of magical tradition...it doesn't. Not anymore. Let go. The ship has docked on the other side of the Atlantic and isn't coming back.
 
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Bronco said:
To everyone that is claiming that the Rose Bowl has some sort of magical tradition...it doesn't. Not anymore. Let go. The ship has docked on the other side of the Atlantic and isn't coming back.
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False.
 
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Bronco said:
To everyone that is claiming that the Rose Bowl has some sort of magical tradition...it doesn't. Not anymore. Let go. The ship has docked on the other side of the Atlantic and isn't coming back.
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Are you a fan of a team in the B1G? Every year I dream of seeing the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl, playing a USC, Stanford, Oregon, Cal, etc, in the granddaddy of them all. The Rose Bowl has tradition. Period.
 
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