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2011 College Football: Occupy GameDay!

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The point is, Houston can't complain if they aren't even trying to play better teams. UCLA was their only AQ game and they won. That's it and they are still #8.

However a team like Tulsa (same conference) who played a much tougher schedule, would probably be in the conversation had they went undefeated. They played #1 Oklahoma, #8 Oklahoma State and #4 Boise State in the first 4 weeks of the season. As well as now ending the season playing #8 Houston.
 
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ESPN claims Meyer to OSU for 7 years, 40 million is a done deal.

1. ESPN has almost zero credibility these days so I'll wait for the announcement.

2. 7 years is about 3-4 years too long that Meyer is going to stick at OSU.
 
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I've watched 9 of ND's 11 games. Trust me.

I've watched them all and the problem I have is I won't be stunned if they win and I won't be stunned if they lose by 30.

They have the players to beat Stanford. Don't know if they have the team.

Turnovers are part of the game and they don't happen strictly by accident but the 3 losses they have were winnable games with even average TO numbers...if they don't fumble on the 2 against USC and have the guy run it back for a TD that game is a way different story.

So, they can play like they did against MSU and win the game or they can play like they did against USF and lose by 17 or they can play like they did against BC and lose by 30.

Gray being out is bad. Having the 2nd string center in there is bad. Having a QB that can't run and makes 5 really bad decisions a game is bad. I'm guessing they toned down the O in the last 3 to give Stanford less to think about...problem is when ND tries to do something creative it usually results in turnovers.

So, Hendrix will play and run the ball. They'll maybe get Atkinson or Riddick some carries with Gray out. They'll fake a punt or FG. They'll spread the ball around and make them cover Floyd and Eifert to try to get Toma or Riddick or Jones open on the cross or the post. If all that happens with no TO's then they might score enough points to win. Problem is all of those things are depatures from the norm which will mean mistakes will happen.

If I'm Stanford I play bend but don't break and dare ND to have 12 play scoring drives with no stupid penalties or turnovers (happened 1x all year).

I think the defensive front 7 of ND decides the game...if they can keep Stanford from running for 200+ yards and pressure Luck then the offense won't be playing catchup, won't be forced to pass 50 times and won't have to improvise their way into huge mistakes. If Lynch, Tuitt et al are getting their names mentioned a lot I'll think positively. If Stanford is controlling the ball and eating up the clock they'll wear down ND and the game will get out of hand in the second half.

Two scores:

ND 27-24

OR

Stanford 41-10
 
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They have the players to beat Stanford. Don't know if they have the team.

Turnovers are part of the game and they don't happen strictly by accident but the 3 losses they have were winnable games with even average TO numbers...if they don't fumble on the 2 against USC and have the guy run it back for a TD that game is a way different story.

So, they can play like they did against MSU and win the game or they can play like they did against USF and lose by 17 or they can play like they did against BC and lose by 30.

Gray being out is bad. Having the 2nd string center in there is bad. Having a QB that can't run and makes 5 really bad decisions a game is bad. I'm guessing they toned down the O in the last 3 to give Stanford less to think about...problem is when ND tries to do something creative it usually results in turnovers.

So, Hendrix will play and run the ball. They'll maybe get Atkinson or Riddick some carries with Gray out. They'll fake a punt or FG. They'll spread the ball around and make them cover Floyd and Eifert to try to get Toma or Riddick or Jones open on the cross or the post. If all that happens with no TO's then they might score enough points to win. Problem is all of those things are depatures from the norm which will mean mistakes will happen.

If I'm Stanford I play bend but don't break and dare ND to have 12 play scoring drives with no stupid penalties or turnovers (happened 1x all year).

I think the defensive front 7 of ND decides the game...if they can keep Stanford from running for 200+ yards and pressure Luck then the offense won't be playing catchup, won't be forced to pass 50 times and won't have to improvise their way into huge mistakes. If Lynch, Tuitt et al are getting their names mentioned a lot I'll think positively. If Stanford is controlling the ball and eating up the clock they'll wear down ND and the game will get out of hand in the second half.

This is all great analysis which I will now selectively peck at because, meh, it's a slow work day.

I'm convinced that the turnovers that cost us 2 games for sure and maybe 3 weren't anomalous Acts of God, but were by-products of ND's season-long sin of ad hoc decision-making and loose (in the sense of undisciplined) execution. I get what you're saying that the team has such peaks and valleys that theoretically it can succeed or fail on any given coin flip, but a characteristic of great opponents is that they exploit weakness and punish inconsistency. Stanford is such an opponent -- they are probably the poster child of luck being "the residue of design."

Or to put it shortly, because of, not despite, ND's changeability, I think ND would lose against a genuine top 10 opponent a hundred times out of a hundred.
 
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This is all great analysis which I will now selectively peck at because, meh, it's a slow work day.

I'm convinced that the turnovers that cost us 2 games for sure and maybe 3 weren't anomalous Acts of God, but were by-products of ND's season-long sin of ad hoc decision-making and loose (in the sense of undisciplined) execution. I get what you're saying that the team has such peaks and valleys that theoretically it can succeed or fail on any given coin flip, but a characteristic of great opponents is that they exploit weakness and punish inconsistency. Stanford is such an opponent -- they are probably the poster child of luck being "the residue of design."

Or to put it shortly, because of, not despite, ND's changeability, I think ND would lose against a genuine top 10 opponent a hundred times out of a hundred.

yup, that pretty much sums up why they can't beat the big guys and also struggle with the consistent team like Navy and the opportunistic team like Tulsa or USF...ND will make enough mistakes to hang themselves 7 of 10 games, it boils down to the other team being good enough on that particular day to take advantage of turnovers, bad clock management and repetitive mental lapses. With top 10 teams that is a given and ND loses, with other teams it is less certain but still very possible.
 
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I thought it was "health reasons", which is why I'm surprised that he's suddenly well enough to talk with tOSU.

Take a year off from a stressful job and he thinks his health problems are permanently gone, I guess? OSU isn't Florida, but it's definitely a top 15 stress inducing job, I'd guess. His daughter must hate his guts by now.
 
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Take a year off from a stressful job and he thinks his health problems are permanently gone, I guess? OSU isn't Florida, but it's definitely a top 15 stress inducing job, I'd guess.
I don't recall any assertion that Meyer was some sort an invalid, or that he could never work full time again. At the same time, assuming the accuracy of the Dispatch report, both sides are taking a calculated risk on Meyer's health. That's admittedly uncomfortable. Then again, buying any sort of health or life insurance raises the same kind of uncomfortable questions. I hope, and have to believe, that the employment contract will deal with the possible scenarios in great detail -- in a way that's fair to all concerned.

His daughter must hate his guts by now.
Oh, I don't know. The normal kid wants her parents to be involved in her life, and that's as it should be. But no high school or college kid is going to want a parent who hovers around on a full time basis. One problem with a high profile coaching career is the that free time tends to be all or nothing. The happy medium is desirable but not doable.

Big Picture: Whenever someone leaves a high profile job citing health and/or family reasons, it will be second guessed. That's legitimate, because such reasons can range from 100% truthful to total BS. In this case, my feeling is that the reasons were more truthful than not. Then again, all of us are just reading tea leaves, and are unlikely to ever know the exact truth.

My particular theory is that Meyer felt he had accomplished all he could at Florida, and despite mixed feelings, decided to move on. The health and family concerns were real enough, but also became a means to facilitate a change. While it's certainly possible to move directly from one high profile program to another, it's considerably more comfortable to have a gap between jobs. As just one example, Nick Saban went the other route when moving from LSU to Alabama, and took more than a little heat for it.

The timing of Meyer's return to coaching is also a legitimate question. More specifically, should the gap have been longer? Arguably, yes. But if Ohio State was the job he really wanted, this was time to go after it. No doubt the job opened up sooner than he could have imagined. When he left Florida I presume he would have expected Jim Tressel to be the Coach of the Buckeyes for several more seasons. As it played out, the crossroads came much sooner.

So was Ohio State really Meyer's dream job? Or just one of several jobs he would have considered? In these parts, the dream job scenario is a pretty easy sell. Outside of Ohio, I suppose the second theory would be more widely believed. How one feels about this last question is going to heavily influence their views on the other issues. If it's the dream job, you dive right in and accept the downside risks as necessary evils. If it's just one job among many, cutting corners on health and family seems much more questionable.
 
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Texas beats A&M 27-25 on a last second field goal. Enjoy being the 8th best team in the SEC, Aggies!
 
That was one awful call on A&M on the final drive.

Horrific. Just absolutely horrific. He couldve absolutely crushed the guy but held off. Just brutal.

Well, my first trip to Lincoln is in progress! Made the trip after dinner today, and really praying I can be thankful for a Hawkeye victory!
 
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Horrific. Just absolutely horrific. He couldve absolutely crushed the guy but held off. Just brutal.

Well, my first trip to Lincoln is in progress! Made the trip after dinner today, and really praying I can be thankful for a Hawkeye victory!

Will you be hearing this when you enter Lincoln? :D

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