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2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs IV: "The game puck just got Prongered"

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I tried to make sense of this deal, but I couldn't. Byfuglien for Reasoner kinda sorta works, but a decent prospect + what could be decent picks for an agitator, an aging defenseman, and a scrub? Atlanta got hosed.
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Here's a shot at making sense of it ...

Atlanta gets 3 regulars who can contribute immediately. All are "hard nosed", so if that's what their locker room needs, or your on-ice presence needs, that's what you're getting.

And all Atlanta has to give up is a 4th liner, a rookie (formerly 7th round pick), a nearly-second-round pick, a nearly-third round pick, and a prospect whose value is probably at maximum.

Looks like a pretty good deal for Atlanta. I would think I've improved my club.

And, a pretty good one for Chicago, who has to ditch salaries - and what they can get back is draft picks and inexpensive "depth players".
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I tried to make sense of this deal, but I couldn't. Byfuglien for Reasoner kinda sorta works, but a decent prospect + what could be decent picks for an agitator, an aging defenseman, and a scrub? Atlanta got hosed.
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Isn't Marty Reasoner basically a career 4th line scrub? His career high in points is 31...and that was almost 10 years ago. Looks more like a big salary dump for the Hawks (who got very little in return).

Or basically what Farse Poobah said. Atlanta got some good/decent players and Chicago cleaned up their books.
 
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Holy Sh**. The one day I'm no where near the internet, and the Thrash go and pull this. Dudley did some favors for his old employer.

To CHI:
Reasoner - Filled the third/fourth line out decently. A good center who did what they needed him to.
Joey Crabb (UFA) - A solid AHL player who easily could fill in on a third/fourth line in the N and get some extra minutes on the PK. Definitely going to be missed by the Wolves. I can see him resigning a two way deal for cheap just to stay in the area.
Morin - A prospect that EVERYONE seemed to be looking forward to playing with the Wolves. Not sure how he'll pan out.

To ATL:
Byfuglien - A cheaper, younger Tomas Holmstrom. I definitely like ATL acquiring him. It's a shame Kane rubbed off on him and he's not the greatest two-way player. Philly-ATL games just got a whole lot more interesting.
Sopel & Eager - Third/fourth liners for the 'Hawks that will likely make the second line (maybe even see a few games at first line minutes) with ATL. For what ATL gave up to get them, it's a draw for now.
Aliu - Really? This a**clown? F* you Rick Dudley.

To SJS:
Sterling (UFA) - The modern day Darren Haydar; A career AHL'er. I can see him resigning just because the team is close to home. IF SJS gives him a contract.
Vernace (UFA) - Good decent kid who played solid defense (nothing spectacular, but it worked). Another one I can see resigning with SJS if they offer a fair deal.

If Sterling and Vernace resign, Worcester is going to have some good players next year...


What it basically broke down as was:
- Eager + Aliu for Crabb + pick.
- Byfuglien + Eager for Reasoner + Morin + higher pick
- Rights to Vernace and Sterling for first round of beers when the Thrash travel to HP Pavilion this fall.
- Dudley pulled some favors for his former employer and single-handedly beats Waddell for the new USCHO Mike Milbury award.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I can think of several Badger alums that are very happy with these trades.

The Blackhawks have a lot of talent that is not-quite yet ready for a regular shift in the NHL on a third or fourth line basis. Okay, maybe not a LOT, but more than enough to fill the holes they're creating with these trades.
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I assume you expect to see Burish and Skille in the lineup? Burish is UFA
 
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J.D. said:
I assume you expect to see Burish and Skille in the lineup? Burish is UFA
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And Skille hasn't been that impressive in Rockford. Unless he's just one of those guys who plays better in the N, he's probably trade bait.
 
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Sharks re-sign Patrick Marleau and RFA Joe Pavelski. Marleau gets four years at $6.9 million per year. Pavelski will get 4 years at $4 million a year.
 
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$4 million a year for Pavelski? Seems like a steal.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
Sharks re-sign Patrick Marleau and RFA Joe Pavelski. Marleau gets four years at $6.9 million per year. Pavelski will get 4 years at $4 million a year.
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Cap hit a touch high for Marleau, Wilson couldn't get it down to 6? Lame.

Pavs at 4 will hopefully help keep Seto down though.
 
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aparch said:
And Skille hasn't been that impressive in Rockford. Unless he's just one of those guys who plays better in the N, he's probably trade bait.
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Last I had checked (admittedly, it was very early in the season), he was doing well in Rockford and his development was going well. But, I suppose there's a reason, besides contracts, that kept them from calling him up later in the season.
 
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Sharks have 12.25M in cap space now, with 14 players under contract. In good dhape, IMHO.
 
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I'm sure the Sharks are pleasantly surprised at how little they had to spend on Pavelski. LeBrun made a note that Ryan Kesler had $5 mil for 6 years, and that San Jose was worried about having to do something similar.
 
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Farce Poobah said:
Here's a shot at making sense of it ...

Atlanta gets 3 regulars who can contribute immediately. All are "hard nosed", so if that's what their locker room needs, or your on-ice presence needs, that's what you're getting.

And all Atlanta has to give up is a 4th liner, a rookie (formerly 7th round pick), a nearly-second-round pick, a nearly-third round pick, and a prospect whose value is probably at maximum.

Looks like a pretty good deal for Atlanta. I would think I've improved my club.
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that is an interesting spin. wrong, but interesting. the dynamics of the trade aging contributors for prospects is a trade a contender makes at a deadline. not a trade a rebuilding team makes unless its run by glenn sather.
 
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They slightly overpaid for Marleau considering his up-and-down playoff efforts, but I guess it's OK.
 
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OvahInDovah said:
Boychuk resigned, 2yrs/3.5M total.

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I like it a lot. I'm real high on him. Probably too high, but whatever. And no NTC!!!


Also, is it safe to assume San Jose is going to go cheap with a goalie now? Not a tremendous amount of room left if they had any intention of signing or trading for a high-cost guy. I guess that fleeting idea that the Bruins could be rid of Tim Thomas and his anchor of a contract is... um... even more fleeting.
 
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Swansong said:
I like it a lot. I'm real high on him. Probably too high, but whatever. And no NTC!!!


Also, is it safe to assume San Jose is going to go cheap with a goalie now? Not a tremendous amount of room left if they had any intention of signing or trading for a high-cost guy. I guess that fleeting idea that the Bruins could be rid of Tim Thomas and his anchor of a contract is... um... even more fleeting.
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I'm high on Boychuk so I think it's a good deal for Boston. As for the NTC, what kind of world do we live in when a guy with 56 games played in the NHL deserves any sort of no movement clause?? :confused:

As for the Sharks...Chris Mason would be an excellent fit. Plenty of options though.
 
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Swansong said:
I like it a lot. I'm real high on him. Probably too high, but whatever. And no NTC!!!
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My thoughts exactly. The Bruins ended the season horribly but they've made some nice moves to correct their mistakes.
 
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