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2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Pay 5.99 & get the game on Fasthockey.com.
at the 10:26 mark in the 3rd period . Usa scores the winning goal. It is clear as day in color.
No question about it. Disgrace. She should not be allowed to Ref again.
Maybe beer league but nothing as important as a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.
There will be a million pics on line soon.
USA actually wins 5-4.
Pay 5.99 & get the game on Fasthockey.com.
at the 10:26 mark in the 3rd period . Usa scores the winning goal. It is clear as day in color.
No question about it. Disgrace. She should not be allowed to Ref again.
Maybe beer league but nothing as important as a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.
There will be a million pics on line soon.
USA actually wins 5-4.
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Oh, there was a goal judge alright. And the red light was on.
Oh, there was a goal judge alright. And the red light was on.
videohockey
Registered User
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
I'm asking for an explanation of the play, the situation, the circumstances, etc.... It's simple and reasonable.
I'm asking for an explanation of the play, the situation, the circumstances, etc.... It's simple and reasonable.
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Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Top shelf, comes down inside the left post on edge (if facing the net) and shoots out on edge.
Top shelf, comes down inside the left post on edge (if facing the net) and shoots out on edge.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
This goal was so obvious there was NO question about it. No one can figure
out where the call came from. It is so pathetic. To take a game away from
these players is horrible. This ref ALWAYS wants to be part of the game.
Every USA nationals she does this kind of stuff. Who is she why is she allowed to do this over and over again. Its just not fair to the players. She
needs to learn its not about her its about the players.
This goal was so obvious there was NO question about it. No one can figure
out where the call came from. It is so pathetic. To take a game away from
these players is horrible. This ref ALWAYS wants to be part of the game.
Every USA nationals she does this kind of stuff. Who is she why is she allowed to do this over and over again. Its just not fair to the players. She
needs to learn its not about her its about the players.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
I thought it was a goal as did everyone in the scorers box, but we were half the sheet away. We had a great view of what the goalie gave Coyne and Coyne appeared to have nailed it.
I never saw the ref give the goal signal, but did see her give the no-goal after she and linesman conferred in the ref circle. The Zamboni doors were opened, the goal judge came over to chat with the refs face-to-face and the "no goal" was then "confirmed." The words repeated to us were the puck hit the crossbar but did not go in.
I want to see the evidence. Coyne had a hard time leaving the ice after this call. She was not at all belligerent, but incredulous.
I thought it was a goal as did everyone in the scorers box, but we were half the sheet away. We had a great view of what the goalie gave Coyne and Coyne appeared to have nailed it.
I never saw the ref give the goal signal, but did see her give the no-goal after she and linesman conferred in the ref circle. The Zamboni doors were opened, the goal judge came over to chat with the refs face-to-face and the "no goal" was then "confirmed." The words repeated to us were the puck hit the crossbar but did not go in.
I want to see the evidence. Coyne had a hard time leaving the ice after this call. She was not at all belligerent, but incredulous.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Check this out about this ref. She gets to do the U18 after just mere days
of getting her license. God, help us if she is allowed in Sochi. She should stick to her high school games. Honey, you need to climb down from your
ladder & realize you just cost the USA the World Championship. You owe
each and every one of those USA players a public apology and admit you
made the mistake of your life. Pictures don't lie !
"Fateful day" yes it is for all of USA.
Fairbanks hockey referee Tara Leighton climbs officiating ladder
by Randy Zarnke / For The News-Miner
02.02.10 - 02:40 am
FAIRBANKS - Fairbanks ice hockey referee Tara Leighton has made a meteoric rise through the officiating ranks and is at the point in her career where she is qualified to do her job at the highest level.
While she won’t be working in Vancouver for the Winter Oympics later this month, she is quietly eyeing the 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia.
“That would be a dream come true,” Leighton said during a recent interview.
Leighton, 27, was born and raised in Fairbanks and began playing hockey at age 7. She played in the Fairbanks Amateur Hockey Association until the Alaska Icebreakers were formed.
She started officiating games when she was 11 years old.
“I did it strictly for the money back then,” Leighton said. “I only stuck with it for a couple of years.”
As a player, she wasn’t the kindest person on the ice when it came time to dealing with the officials.
“During a district tournament game, referee Mark Norum kinda challenged me by saying, ‘If you think you can do better, then you should become a ref,’” Leighton said. “I accepted that challenge.”
Since that fateful day, Leighton’s officiating career has been on an upward course. She progressed quickly through all the local levels of hockey, and now works high school and Fairbanks Ice Dogs games on a regular basis. Leighton was evaluated at each level as she moved up through the ranks. The evaluations became more formal at the high levels.
“They focus on the obvious things like knowledge of the rules and ability to properly implement those rules,” she said. “In addition, there is a more subjective factor involving how well you manage the players and coaches.”
Leighton reaped the benefits from the evaluation process.
“I’ve learned something from every person who has evaluated me,” she said. “Apparently, the people who were judging me liked what they saw.”
USA Hockey Alaska Referee-in-Chief Chris Milles of Fairbanks recommended Leighton be considered for training and officiating opportunities at the highest levels.
“Tara had already been officiating state and district tournament games with success, so the logical progression was exposure at the national level,” Milles said. “With her success on the boys side, everyone knew she had the background to officiate women’s games. Based upon the assignments she has gotten, she is doing very well.
“The local officials are very supportive of Tara and want to see her be successful on the international level,” Milles added
Leighton was one of nine officials invited to the USA Hockey Women’s Region Camp in 2006.
A year later, she was invited to the national camp. In 2008, she participated in the elite camp.
“In order to referee international games, it is necessary to earn a license from the International Ice Hockey Federation,” she said. “I knew that the Elite camp was my big test. I must have done OK. I got the license shortly after the camp.”
Officiating opportunities really took off for Leighton after she acquired her IIHF license.
“They tell you not to expect immediate assignments, but I worked the U-18 Women’s series within days of getting my license in August of last year (2008), and then the Four Nations Cup in November,” she said.
Leighton went to Harbin, China, for the World University Games in February 2009, and then worked one of the Qwest Tour games last October in Spokane, Wash. She plans to work the U-18 Women’s World Championships in March in Chicago.
“Tara has progressed rapidly through the USA Hockey officiating program,” said Matt Leaf, director of the Officiating Education Program for USA Hockey. “That’s due primarily to her attitude and work ethic. We have confidence that she will do a great job every time that she steps on the ice.”
Leighton acknowledges that the big stage brings inherent pressure.
“I don’t get goo excited,” she said. “Even if I am a little nervous, I can’t let the players or coaches see it.”
Leighton has had few problems with coaches at the upper levels of women’s hockey.
“They may ask a question or request an interpretation of a rule, but they aren’t screamers,” she said.
The language barrier hasn’t been a problem, either.
“Most of the international coaches speak English,” she said. “If not, they have an assistant or a player to help out. That makes it easier for me.”
In addition to her on-ice responsibilities, Tara has enjoyed traveling to new places.
“Lake Placid is the most beautiful place I’ve ever seen,” Leighton said. Rural China was a culture shock. The poverty and crowded conditions made me appreciate the life that we have here in the States.”
If things continue to progress for Leighton, she justmight be working at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.
© newsminer.com 2010
Check this out about this ref. She gets to do the U18 after just mere days
of getting her license. God, help us if she is allowed in Sochi. She should stick to her high school games. Honey, you need to climb down from your
ladder & realize you just cost the USA the World Championship. You owe
each and every one of those USA players a public apology and admit you
made the mistake of your life. Pictures don't lie !
"Fateful day" yes it is for all of USA.
Fairbanks hockey referee Tara Leighton climbs officiating ladder
by Randy Zarnke / For The News-Miner
02.02.10 - 02:40 am
FAIRBANKS - Fairbanks ice hockey referee Tara Leighton has made a meteoric rise through the officiating ranks and is at the point in her career where she is qualified to do her job at the highest level.
While she won’t be working in Vancouver for the Winter Oympics later this month, she is quietly eyeing the 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia.
“That would be a dream come true,” Leighton said during a recent interview.
Leighton, 27, was born and raised in Fairbanks and began playing hockey at age 7. She played in the Fairbanks Amateur Hockey Association until the Alaska Icebreakers were formed.
She started officiating games when she was 11 years old.
“I did it strictly for the money back then,” Leighton said. “I only stuck with it for a couple of years.”
As a player, she wasn’t the kindest person on the ice when it came time to dealing with the officials.
“During a district tournament game, referee Mark Norum kinda challenged me by saying, ‘If you think you can do better, then you should become a ref,’” Leighton said. “I accepted that challenge.”
Since that fateful day, Leighton’s officiating career has been on an upward course. She progressed quickly through all the local levels of hockey, and now works high school and Fairbanks Ice Dogs games on a regular basis. Leighton was evaluated at each level as she moved up through the ranks. The evaluations became more formal at the high levels.
“They focus on the obvious things like knowledge of the rules and ability to properly implement those rules,” she said. “In addition, there is a more subjective factor involving how well you manage the players and coaches.”
Leighton reaped the benefits from the evaluation process.
“I’ve learned something from every person who has evaluated me,” she said. “Apparently, the people who were judging me liked what they saw.”
USA Hockey Alaska Referee-in-Chief Chris Milles of Fairbanks recommended Leighton be considered for training and officiating opportunities at the highest levels.
“Tara had already been officiating state and district tournament games with success, so the logical progression was exposure at the national level,” Milles said. “With her success on the boys side, everyone knew she had the background to officiate women’s games. Based upon the assignments she has gotten, she is doing very well.
“The local officials are very supportive of Tara and want to see her be successful on the international level,” Milles added
Leighton was one of nine officials invited to the USA Hockey Women’s Region Camp in 2006.
A year later, she was invited to the national camp. In 2008, she participated in the elite camp.
“In order to referee international games, it is necessary to earn a license from the International Ice Hockey Federation,” she said. “I knew that the Elite camp was my big test. I must have done OK. I got the license shortly after the camp.”
Officiating opportunities really took off for Leighton after she acquired her IIHF license.
“They tell you not to expect immediate assignments, but I worked the U-18 Women’s series within days of getting my license in August of last year (2008), and then the Four Nations Cup in November,” she said.
Leighton went to Harbin, China, for the World University Games in February 2009, and then worked one of the Qwest Tour games last October in Spokane, Wash. She plans to work the U-18 Women’s World Championships in March in Chicago.
“Tara has progressed rapidly through the USA Hockey officiating program,” said Matt Leaf, director of the Officiating Education Program for USA Hockey. “That’s due primarily to her attitude and work ethic. We have confidence that she will do a great job every time that she steps on the ice.”
Leighton acknowledges that the big stage brings inherent pressure.
“I don’t get goo excited,” she said. “Even if I am a little nervous, I can’t let the players or coaches see it.”
Leighton has had few problems with coaches at the upper levels of women’s hockey.
“They may ask a question or request an interpretation of a rule, but they aren’t screamers,” she said.
The language barrier hasn’t been a problem, either.
“Most of the international coaches speak English,” she said. “If not, they have an assistant or a player to help out. That makes it easier for me.”
In addition to her on-ice responsibilities, Tara has enjoyed traveling to new places.
“Lake Placid is the most beautiful place I’ve ever seen,” Leighton said. Rural China was a culture shock. The poverty and crowded conditions made me appreciate the life that we have here in the States.”
If things continue to progress for Leighton, she justmight be working at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.
© newsminer.com 2010
5 4 Fighting
New member
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Could you point me toward the million pics.
Thanks.
Could you point me toward the million pics.
Thanks.
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
How about five:
The Fifth US Goal: Kendall Coyne and Meghan Lorence have a perfect view of the puck behind the left post. The red goal light will go on, and five skaters will celebrate.
The Black Spot: Note the dark spot to the left of the arrow. In the next photo you will see the puck completely, and the "dark spot" will be gone. Obviously that was the puck, and obviously it was over the line.
In Plain Sight: Now fully visible to the camera, the puck has bounced out of the net and Coyne and Lorence are beginning their celebration. Note that the "black spot" is gone from the lower corner.
In Plain Sight-The Close-Up: Cropped view of the previous photo showing the white where once black resided.
Seeing Red: The goal light is illuminated, signaling a goal. Coyne and Lorence are celebrating. The official has not signaled a goal and will soon be conferring with her partners at center ice.
How about five:
The Fifth US Goal: Kendall Coyne and Meghan Lorence have a perfect view of the puck behind the left post. The red goal light will go on, and five skaters will celebrate.
The Black Spot: Note the dark spot to the left of the arrow. In the next photo you will see the puck completely, and the "dark spot" will be gone. Obviously that was the puck, and obviously it was over the line.
In Plain Sight: Now fully visible to the camera, the puck has bounced out of the net and Coyne and Lorence are beginning their celebration. Note that the "black spot" is gone from the lower corner.
In Plain Sight-The Close-Up: Cropped view of the previous photo showing the white where once black resided.
Seeing Red: The goal light is illuminated, signaling a goal. Coyne and Lorence are celebrating. The official has not signaled a goal and will soon be conferring with her partners at center ice.
gotice
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Thanks for sharing the photo, Hux. Have to say that the photo evidence is pretty clear and the goal should have stood. Congrats to Canada for the OT win. Unfortunately sometimes a missed or bad call can affect the outcome of a game, looks like this may have been one of those times.
Thanks for sharing the photo, Hux. Have to say that the photo evidence is pretty clear and the goal should have stood. Congrats to Canada for the OT win. Unfortunately sometimes a missed or bad call can affect the outcome of a game, looks like this may have been one of those times.
just_a_fan
New member
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Man, that blows.
*shakes head*
Man, that blows.
*shakes head*
wheelerdealer
New member
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
The goal was not the only questionable call in the 3rd period or OT.
1. 6 Canadian players PLAYED for over 10 seconds before realizing too many players. The Official had the entire play in front of her with full ability to see the 6 players. The crowd was calling it for quite some time, she ignored the infraction.
2. A penalty was called on USA immediately following the disallowed goal, USA went from being up 2 to down one and a player on very questionable call.
3. In OT the USA was buzzing early, d to d pass on Blue line was caught in the blue toward the neutral zone half but clearly on side, linesman did not move and was blocked from the puck, no way to see it decided might as well call off side.
The last one was a beauty and led to the eventual game winner. USA was rushing hard it was a 1 on 1 (Pelkey carrying the puck) she had 2 USA players following pretty closely. 5 feet inside the blue Pelkey had the puck poked loose, the oncoming supporting USA players reached to keep the puck in the zone only missing by an inch or so, The REF not linesman called it intentional offside, face-off in USA zone.
These are just a few I recall. THe game was played on special teams. It was sad. In this type of game we typically see players decide the outcome. In this case The above mentioned official did. Congrats to Canada they played well however, not well enough to get the gold it was/should have been over at Regulation.
It seemed anytime the US had something going late a call was made or in several cases long delays of whistles when Rigsby clearly had the puck covered.
The goal was not the only questionable call in the 3rd period or OT.
1. 6 Canadian players PLAYED for over 10 seconds before realizing too many players. The Official had the entire play in front of her with full ability to see the 6 players. The crowd was calling it for quite some time, she ignored the infraction.
2. A penalty was called on USA immediately following the disallowed goal, USA went from being up 2 to down one and a player on very questionable call.
3. In OT the USA was buzzing early, d to d pass on Blue line was caught in the blue toward the neutral zone half but clearly on side, linesman did not move and was blocked from the puck, no way to see it decided might as well call off side.
The last one was a beauty and led to the eventual game winner. USA was rushing hard it was a 1 on 1 (Pelkey carrying the puck) she had 2 USA players following pretty closely. 5 feet inside the blue Pelkey had the puck poked loose, the oncoming supporting USA players reached to keep the puck in the zone only missing by an inch or so, The REF not linesman called it intentional offside, face-off in USA zone.
These are just a few I recall. THe game was played on special teams. It was sad. In this type of game we typically see players decide the outcome. In this case The above mentioned official did. Congrats to Canada they played well however, not well enough to get the gold it was/should have been over at Regulation.
It seemed anytime the US had something going late a call was made or in several cases long delays of whistles when Rigsby clearly had the puck covered.
5 4 Fighting
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Looks photoshopped to me...
5-4 Canada.
The real story here is Canada roars back from a 3-1 deficit after 1 while outshooting their opponents 47-39...
Looks photoshopped to me...
5-4 Canada.
The real story here is Canada roars back from a 3-1 deficit after 1 while outshooting their opponents 47-39...
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Looks like the IIHF needs to recant their statement below on their web site.
They also owe Ms. Coyne & the entire country a formal apology. Calling that
young lady a liar after the way she played for her country. She scored the
3rd straight GWG in a the u18 world championships.
Quote from IIHF:
"The game turned once and for all halfway through the period when Coyne made a sensational end-to-end rush and appeared to score a goal. However, referee Tara Leighton of the U.S. ruled the puck did not enter the net, and the score remained 4-3 for the Americans. The call was gutsy and controversial, but television evidence later suggested it was also correct. "
Quote from Coyne:
"I believe it went in and always will believe that," Coyne said between sobs. "I did not see it hit the crossbar. It hit the upstairs bar."
Looks like the IIHF needs to recant their statement below on their web site.
They also owe Ms. Coyne & the entire country a formal apology. Calling that
young lady a liar after the way she played for her country. She scored the
3rd straight GWG in a the u18 world championships.
Quote from IIHF:
"The game turned once and for all halfway through the period when Coyne made a sensational end-to-end rush and appeared to score a goal. However, referee Tara Leighton of the U.S. ruled the puck did not enter the net, and the score remained 4-3 for the Americans. The call was gutsy and controversial, but television evidence later suggested it was also correct. "
Quote from Coyne:
"I believe it went in and always will believe that," Coyne said between sobs. "I did not see it hit the crossbar. It hit the upstairs bar."
5 4 Fighting
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Even on the World's biggest stage.
Game 6 - 2004 Stanley Cup Finals. Marty Geliina's goal obviously crossed the line and would have been the game, series & Stanley Cup winner.
http://img55.imageshack.us/i/game6phantom9nz.jpg/
Hockey can be a cruel game...
Even on the World's biggest stage.
Game 6 - 2004 Stanley Cup Finals. Marty Geliina's goal obviously crossed the line and would have been the game, series & Stanley Cup winner.
http://img55.imageshack.us/i/game6phantom9nz.jpg/
Hockey can be a cruel game...
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
From where I sat (just over the blue line in the neutral zone on the side the goal in question occurred), I really thought I saw puck as it lifted the netting above the crossbar before dropping down.
As we were leaving, a Canadian couple, while clearly happy, said they were standing right in clear line to see, and that the puck had gone in. I guess my question is why wasn't the linesman in a better position to see the goal line? It seemed they had a tough time getting into position given the pace of the game.
Quite a few questionable off-sides and icing calls and non-calls. It was a great game to watch: both teams missed some very clear scoring opportunities, and both got some "lucky" breaks offensively and defensively, but I am still frustrated that even disregarding the controversial goal, it seemed to be a game whose outcome was influenced far too much by the officials.
From where I sat (just over the blue line in the neutral zone on the side the goal in question occurred), I really thought I saw puck as it lifted the netting above the crossbar before dropping down.
As we were leaving, a Canadian couple, while clearly happy, said they were standing right in clear line to see, and that the puck had gone in. I guess my question is why wasn't the linesman in a better position to see the goal line? It seemed they had a tough time getting into position given the pace of the game.
Quite a few questionable off-sides and icing calls and non-calls. It was a great game to watch: both teams missed some very clear scoring opportunities, and both got some "lucky" breaks offensively and defensively, but I am still frustrated that even disregarding the controversial goal, it seemed to be a game whose outcome was influenced far too much by the officials.
videohockey
Registered User
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Nicely described. I appreciate it when there is criticism, that there is good explanation to go with.
Also, great pictures, Hux. I wish we could get a comment from the goal judge. He/she turned on the light.
Nicely described. I appreciate it when there is criticism, that there is good explanation to go with.
Also, great pictures, Hux. I wish we could get a comment from the goal judge. He/she turned on the light.
wheelerdealer
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Not that it matters but look at the bod language of the Canadian players.....They know it was in. Very sad for the event. The one game everyone wanted to see and it is blemished by obviously inadequate officiating.
One thing I cannot believe has not been mentioned yet is the air quality in Seven Bridges. I would like to know what the carbon monoxide levels measured. There was actually a blue haze in the arena. The smell was horrible I cannot imagine what it was like to play in.
Very hazardous to the health of the athletes. Consideration needs to be considered and corrective action needs to be taken at Seven Bridges. On a daily basis kids are being subjected to very poor air quality.
Not that it matters but look at the bod language of the Canadian players.....They know it was in. Very sad for the event. The one game everyone wanted to see and it is blemished by obviously inadequate officiating.
One thing I cannot believe has not been mentioned yet is the air quality in Seven Bridges. I would like to know what the carbon monoxide levels measured. There was actually a blue haze in the arena. The smell was horrible I cannot imagine what it was like to play in.
Very hazardous to the health of the athletes. Consideration needs to be considered and corrective action needs to be taken at Seven Bridges. On a daily basis kids are being subjected to very poor air quality.