Hockeydad4two
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
7-0 USA at the end of the 2nd period. Fasthockey doesn't offer any stats.
7-0 USA at the end of the 2nd period. Fasthockey doesn't offer any stats.
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2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
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Hockeydad4two
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
11-1 USA wins.
11-1 USA wins.
WHKY blogger
Renegade Badger
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Tournament Live Stats/Line Charts/Recaps/Stats from the IIHF are available here
USA Scoring Summary from Tonight:
1st Period
11:57 - AMMERMAN B (1) from HICKEL Z
16:00 - CARPENTER A
2nd Period
23:41 - FRY L (1) from MANGENE M
28:51 - AMMERMAN B (2) from BIZZARI M
31:08 - BONA R (1) from PFALZER E
39:45 - HICKEL Z (1) from SLAVIN J and CARPENTER A
39:57 - SKARUPA H (1) from LORENCE M
3rd Period
49:18 - COYNE K (1) from GEDMAN M and SLAVIN J
52:49 - COYNE K (2) from MANGENE M and PELKEY A
56:09 - COYNE K (3) from PELKEY A
56:51 - AMMERMAN B (3) from BIZZARI M and 12 PICARD M
Both Coyne and Ammerman picked up Hat Tricks for the USA
Edit: Coyne received the US Player of the Game Award. I personally thought Ammerman was a force in all three periods while Coyne was pretty much a non factor until her Natural Hat Trick in the 3rd. Japan did a good job of limiting her in the first and looked really tired as the game wore on. Not competitive and rather boring to watch overall.
Tournament Live Stats/Line Charts/Recaps/Stats from the IIHF are available here
USA Scoring Summary from Tonight:
1st Period
11:57 - AMMERMAN B (1) from HICKEL Z
16:00 - CARPENTER A
2nd Period
23:41 - FRY L (1) from MANGENE M
28:51 - AMMERMAN B (2) from BIZZARI M
31:08 - BONA R (1) from PFALZER E
39:45 - HICKEL Z (1) from SLAVIN J and CARPENTER A
39:57 - SKARUPA H (1) from LORENCE M
3rd Period
49:18 - COYNE K (1) from GEDMAN M and SLAVIN J
52:49 - COYNE K (2) from MANGENE M and PELKEY A
56:09 - COYNE K (3) from PELKEY A
56:51 - AMMERMAN B (3) from BIZZARI M and 12 PICARD M
Both Coyne and Ammerman picked up Hat Tricks for the USA
Edit: Coyne received the US Player of the Game Award. I personally thought Ammerman was a force in all three periods while Coyne was pretty much a non factor until her Natural Hat Trick in the 3rd. Japan did a good job of limiting her in the first and looked really tired as the game wore on. Not competitive and rather boring to watch overall.
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WHKY blogger
Renegade Badger
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Attendance for Today's Games:
Finland v. Czech Republic - 152
Canada v. Russia - 170
Germany v. Sweden - 100
Japan v. USA - 312
The IIHF and USA Hockey should be ashamed of their efforts. One newspaper article was all I saw. None of the restaurants I went to or places I stopped in the area were aware of the event. I Watched bits of the Finland-Czech and Germany-Sweden games and all of the Canada-Russia and Japan-USA games. One of the Mission teams was in the lobby dropping or loading gear between games (I would go with U12 by the looks of the kids) and the parents were unaware of the event being held until they arrived here saw the banners and had trouble getting into their area. You would think that given one of their own (Coyne) is playing for the USA and the Event is at their HOME RINK they would be aware and have their girls in attendance watching as much as possible. Only saw a few stay around and watch. Totally disappointing and not what I expected.
I would rank the teams after today
1. USA
2. Canada
3. Finland
4. Sweden
5. Germany
6. Russia
7. Czech Republic
8. Japan
Will be back on Friday and Saturday to see more games. Hopefully there are more people here.
Attendance for Today's Games:
Finland v. Czech Republic - 152
Canada v. Russia - 170
Germany v. Sweden - 100
Japan v. USA - 312
The IIHF and USA Hockey should be ashamed of their efforts. One newspaper article was all I saw. None of the restaurants I went to or places I stopped in the area were aware of the event. I Watched bits of the Finland-Czech and Germany-Sweden games and all of the Canada-Russia and Japan-USA games. One of the Mission teams was in the lobby dropping or loading gear between games (I would go with U12 by the looks of the kids) and the parents were unaware of the event being held until they arrived here saw the banners and had trouble getting into their area. You would think that given one of their own (Coyne) is playing for the USA and the Event is at their HOME RINK they would be aware and have their girls in attendance watching as much as possible. Only saw a few stay around and watch. Totally disappointing and not what I expected.
I would rank the teams after today
1. USA
2. Canada
3. Finland
4. Sweden
5. Germany
6. Russia
7. Czech Republic
8. Japan
Will be back on Friday and Saturday to see more games. Hopefully there are more people here.
Hockeydad4two
Registered User
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Illinois hockey (AHAI) has a history of not supporting girls hockey very well. And before anyone asks, yes I was a member of AHAI girl's committee in a past life. There are some great people involved but the politics burn out people almost as fast as new ones join.
Illinois hockey (AHAI) has a history of not supporting girls hockey very well. And before anyone asks, yes I was a member of AHAI girl's committee in a past life. There are some great people involved but the politics burn out people almost as fast as new ones join.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
The main problem is like we all already know - women's hockey is a niche sport. It is too bad, but it is the way it is. I am volunteering at the event (keeping face-off stats), so I was there as well and will be there every game day this week. I also know one of the Mission coaches and she told me all the Mission teams, boys and girls - all 11 of them - had to move their gear out of their dressing rooms a couple of weeks ago. I suspect the parents who were dropping off the gear are confused about when they could get back in and maybe why they had to move in the first place. No accounting for some people
! I too hope more local girls will be in attendance today and next week. Admission is $7 per prelim game- they have a few ticket packages, but if you want to have a pass to all games all week, it is $100 per person.
Since I am used to mostly D3 game attendance, it felt like there were alot of people in the rinks. All 8 teams players, coaches, staff, parents, a few members of the media, volunteers - it was busy. I worked the FIN-CZE and the SWE-GER games. The international flavor of the crowd was really great. Bursts of organized cheers - of course, I have no idea what is being chanted unless it was just the country name - plus all the country scarfs and jerseys on the fans - it is special! I feel fortunate to be working the games not involving US and CAN in the prelim rounds as these games are competitive. Of course, I am very glad I am assigned to penalty-box duty for the semis and finals next week. I was able to watch a bit on the other side in the period breaks, so my appetite is whet.
I too only saw one Sun-Times article:
The main problem is like we all already know - women's hockey is a niche sport. It is too bad, but it is the way it is. I am volunteering at the event (keeping face-off stats), so I was there as well and will be there every game day this week. I also know one of the Mission coaches and she told me all the Mission teams, boys and girls - all 11 of them - had to move their gear out of their dressing rooms a couple of weeks ago. I suspect the parents who were dropping off the gear are confused about when they could get back in and maybe why they had to move in the first place. No accounting for some people
! I too hope more local girls will be in attendance today and next week. Admission is $7 per prelim game- they have a few ticket packages, but if you want to have a pass to all games all week, it is $100 per person.Since I am used to mostly D3 game attendance, it felt like there were alot of people in the rinks. All 8 teams players, coaches, staff, parents, a few members of the media, volunteers - it was busy. I worked the FIN-CZE and the SWE-GER games. The international flavor of the crowd was really great. Bursts of organized cheers - of course, I have no idea what is being chanted unless it was just the country name - plus all the country scarfs and jerseys on the fans - it is special! I feel fortunate to be working the games not involving US and CAN in the prelim rounds as these games are competitive. Of course, I am very glad I am assigned to penalty-box duty for the semis and finals next week. I was able to watch a bit on the other side in the period breaks, so my appetite is whet.
I too only saw one Sun-Times article:
Girls U.S. junior hockey squad prepared
March 25, 2010 BY TIM CRONIN -- SOUTHTOWNSTAR
The U.S. women’s junior hockey team dropped an 11-1 decision in a pre-World Women’s Junior tournament game earlier this week. There’s a good reason. They were playing against men.
“We won’t play a better team in the tournament,” said Kendall Coyne, the 17-year-old center from Palos Heights.
Coyne is familiar with that squad, the Chicago Mission. She plays for the Mission’s women’s team and often practices with the men.
The Sandburg senior is uniquely familiar with the World Women’s Junior Championship, the third edition of which starts an eight-day run Saturday at Seven Bridges Ice Arena in Woodridge. Coyne, a member of the U.S. team for the first two championships, scored the title-winning goal in each. Last year in Germany, her game-winner against Canada came in sudden-death overtime.
“My personal success, I honestly don’t care about it,” Coyne said. “As long as we come out on top that’s all that matters.”
That team-first attitude is precisely what is needed when players gather only a week before the opening game.
“We’re trying to cram a lot into a week, and sometimes the players’ brains get a little fried,” coach Katie King said of installing her system. “And players are playing different roles than they might with their home teams.
“The key for us is to work hard every time we’re out there. We can’t take any team lightly.”
Women’s hockey is a developing sport, but the title game in the eight-team tournament is expected to feature perennial powers U.S. and Canada, as has been the case the first two years.
“With younger players, you never really know,” King said diplomatically. “Japan looked really good when we saw them the other night, better than they looked last year. This (junior level) is where you’ll see the sport really grow.”
The U.S. opens Saturday against Japan, followed by games Sunday against Finland and Tuesday vs. the Czech Republic. Canada is in the other group, along with Russia, Sweden and Germany. The playoff round begins Wednesday, with the championship April 3.
For Coyne, the only Illinois player on the squad, it’s a game in her home rink in her country’s colors.
“Kendall, with the experience she has and the way she hustles all over the ice, she’s definitely an asset to us,” King said.
It’s also Coyne’s final appearance for the U.S. junior squad. The International Ice Hockey Federation has only one women’s junior level, limited to players under 18. The men’s side has an under-18 bracket and an under-20 bracket. (The U.S. team’s youngest player is 15-year-old Alexandra Carpenter of North Reading, Mass.)
The location makes this tournament that much more special for Coyne.
“There’s been an endless amount of support,” Coyne said. “I’ll have lots of friends and family here. When we were in Germany everybody here could only watch the box score on the Internet.”
March 25, 2010 BY TIM CRONIN -- SOUTHTOWNSTAR
The U.S. women’s junior hockey team dropped an 11-1 decision in a pre-World Women’s Junior tournament game earlier this week. There’s a good reason. They were playing against men.
“We won’t play a better team in the tournament,” said Kendall Coyne, the 17-year-old center from Palos Heights.
Coyne is familiar with that squad, the Chicago Mission. She plays for the Mission’s women’s team and often practices with the men.
The Sandburg senior is uniquely familiar with the World Women’s Junior Championship, the third edition of which starts an eight-day run Saturday at Seven Bridges Ice Arena in Woodridge. Coyne, a member of the U.S. team for the first two championships, scored the title-winning goal in each. Last year in Germany, her game-winner against Canada came in sudden-death overtime.
“My personal success, I honestly don’t care about it,” Coyne said. “As long as we come out on top that’s all that matters.”
That team-first attitude is precisely what is needed when players gather only a week before the opening game.
“We’re trying to cram a lot into a week, and sometimes the players’ brains get a little fried,” coach Katie King said of installing her system. “And players are playing different roles than they might with their home teams.
“The key for us is to work hard every time we’re out there. We can’t take any team lightly.”
Women’s hockey is a developing sport, but the title game in the eight-team tournament is expected to feature perennial powers U.S. and Canada, as has been the case the first two years.
“With younger players, you never really know,” King said diplomatically. “Japan looked really good when we saw them the other night, better than they looked last year. This (junior level) is where you’ll see the sport really grow.”
The U.S. opens Saturday against Japan, followed by games Sunday against Finland and Tuesday vs. the Czech Republic. Canada is in the other group, along with Russia, Sweden and Germany. The playoff round begins Wednesday, with the championship April 3.
For Coyne, the only Illinois player on the squad, it’s a game in her home rink in her country’s colors.
“Kendall, with the experience she has and the way she hustles all over the ice, she’s definitely an asset to us,” King said.
It’s also Coyne’s final appearance for the U.S. junior squad. The International Ice Hockey Federation has only one women’s junior level, limited to players under 18. The men’s side has an under-18 bracket and an under-20 bracket. (The U.S. team’s youngest player is 15-year-old Alexandra Carpenter of North Reading, Mass.)
The location makes this tournament that much more special for Coyne.
“There’s been an endless amount of support,” Coyne said. “I’ll have lots of friends and family here. When we were in Germany everybody here could only watch the box score on the Internet.”
OnMAA
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
One observation was that there are games going on simultaneously. I would have expected the games to be spread over the day without any time conflicts.
One observation was that there are games going on simultaneously. I would have expected the games to be spread over the day without any time conflicts.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
I forgot about an email I got this past Friday from USA Hockey. Not sure if anyone outside of AHAI got it or not. This is a pretty poor effort to publicize on USAH's part and maybe you are right, WHKY. Not enough notice, but they do have a nice package for AHAI youth teams:
Lisa Chesson was at a table signing autographs last night and Caitlin Cahow is supposed to be there later in the week, and Molly Schaus on the final game day, April 3.
I forgot about an email I got this past Friday from USA Hockey. Not sure if anyone outside of AHAI got it or not. This is a pretty poor effort to publicize on USAH's part and maybe you are right, WHKY. Not enough notice, but they do have a nice package for AHAI youth teams:
SINGLE-GAME TICKETS
$7.00 Preliminary round
$10.00 Playoff Round - Relegation, Quarter Finals and Semi Finals
$15.00 Medal Games (Gold and Bronze)
ROUND PACKAGES:
$45.00 Preliminary Round ~ Attend any of the 12 games
$55.00 Playoff Round - Attend any of the Relegation, Quarterfinal, Semifinal and Medal games
TEAM / FAMILY PACKAGES:
Parents, families and friends of competing players, don’t miss your chance to follow your team and have your tickets ready for all preliminary round games.
Packages include:
Three (3) preliminary round games (your team only) $5.00 x three games = $15 per package
Packages will be sold until Mar 20th on a first come, first serve basis.
Relegation, quarterfinal, semifinal and medal games are not included in the family package. These tickets can be purchased at Seven Bridges Ice Arena Arena prior to the game.
AHAI PACKAGES: Illinois hockey players and their parents have the opportunity to see the National Women’s Team play. For only $100 USAH will provide a youth hockey team 30 tickets to a Team USA preliminary round game as well as the opportunity to meet some of USAH players.
$7.00 Preliminary round
$10.00 Playoff Round - Relegation, Quarter Finals and Semi Finals
$15.00 Medal Games (Gold and Bronze)
ROUND PACKAGES:
$45.00 Preliminary Round ~ Attend any of the 12 games
$55.00 Playoff Round - Attend any of the Relegation, Quarterfinal, Semifinal and Medal games
TEAM / FAMILY PACKAGES:
Parents, families and friends of competing players, don’t miss your chance to follow your team and have your tickets ready for all preliminary round games.
Packages include:
Three (3) preliminary round games (your team only) $5.00 x three games = $15 per package
Packages will be sold until Mar 20th on a first come, first serve basis.
Relegation, quarterfinal, semifinal and medal games are not included in the family package. These tickets can be purchased at Seven Bridges Ice Arena Arena prior to the game.
AHAI PACKAGES: Illinois hockey players and their parents have the opportunity to see the National Women’s Team play. For only $100 USAH will provide a youth hockey team 30 tickets to a Team USA preliminary round game as well as the opportunity to meet some of USAH players.
Lisa Chesson was at a table signing autographs last night and Caitlin Cahow is supposed to be there later in the week, and Molly Schaus on the final game day, April 3.
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Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
You haven't been around youth hockey enough.
They say one of the biggest deterrents to continued participation in the sport is the time requirement for travel to and from and then the actual practice and game time. As anyone with kids, or has been around people with kids knows, it seems as if families are in perpetual motion. There is little down time these days, particularly in families with several children. As a consequence people tend to be oblivious to a lot of what goes on around them if it doesn't directly involve them.
Obviously this is a big event, and one would expect there would be considerable awareness by those that frequent the rink. However, given the costs involved in attending, the likelihood that kids are moving into spring sports etc. etc. etc. it really isn't a surprise.
As for USA Hockey/IIHF creating a media blitz etc.;
1) Understaffed to begin with, an Olympic year, just coming out of Patty Kaz ceremony, so you can bet they have prioritized things chronologically and have had their hands full.
2) I've found that you can deluge the press with info and they still won't publish it. A local paper would prefer to have inches devoted to the police log, which people seem to gravitate to over a sport that relatively few have interest in.
Ironically, you might have a better shot of getting coverage in a big city paper, but then only if it is a slow sports day. (which it ain't as all four pro sports are in play(NFL draft coming) March Madness, Tiger and the Masters)
Let's face it. High school aged girls playing hockey, even if it is for a World Championship, and particularly for prelim games, isn't a big drawing card. The US and Canadian semis and then the final will draw well, the rest won't.
You haven't been around youth hockey enough.
They say one of the biggest deterrents to continued participation in the sport is the time requirement for travel to and from and then the actual practice and game time. As anyone with kids, or has been around people with kids knows, it seems as if families are in perpetual motion. There is little down time these days, particularly in families with several children. As a consequence people tend to be oblivious to a lot of what goes on around them if it doesn't directly involve them.
Obviously this is a big event, and one would expect there would be considerable awareness by those that frequent the rink. However, given the costs involved in attending, the likelihood that kids are moving into spring sports etc. etc. etc. it really isn't a surprise.
As for USA Hockey/IIHF creating a media blitz etc.;
1) Understaffed to begin with, an Olympic year, just coming out of Patty Kaz ceremony, so you can bet they have prioritized things chronologically and have had their hands full.
2) I've found that you can deluge the press with info and they still won't publish it. A local paper would prefer to have inches devoted to the police log, which people seem to gravitate to over a sport that relatively few have interest in.
Ironically, you might have a better shot of getting coverage in a big city paper, but then only if it is a slow sports day. (which it ain't as all four pro sports are in play(NFL draft coming) March Madness, Tiger and the Masters)
Let's face it. High school aged girls playing hockey, even if it is for a World Championship, and particularly for prelim games, isn't a big drawing card. The US and Canadian semis and then the final will draw well, the rest won't.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Saw two games tonight. Czech Republic over Japan 5 3 and USA over Finland 5 0 USA moved the puck well goals by Coyne, Carpenter and Mangene in 2nd and Coyne and Bizzari in 3rd. Rigsby in net didn't get a lot of shots. Sparse crowd in attendance but Mission did have a contingent of players in the stands.
Saw two games tonight. Czech Republic over Japan 5 3 and USA over Finland 5 0 USA moved the puck well goals by Coyne, Carpenter and Mangene in 2nd and Coyne and Bizzari in 3rd. Rigsby in net didn't get a lot of shots. Sparse crowd in attendance but Mission did have a contingent of players in the stands.
96IllinoisDad
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
FWIW, a couple comments from a local dad (with a daughter on Mission):
Attendance. I was shocked at the low attendence on Saturday. Drove right up to my normal practice parking spot. There were a few girl players there but not as many as I expected. There were almost no other unrelated spectators. I expect that the USA attendence is higher because they have lots of family members in attendence more so than more people coming out to watch them.
Promotion? I believe USA Hockey was promoter/organizer. Very, very few e-mails came out about this event - in fact I got a fairly complicated ticket purchase email (that I ignored and just bought tickets on Saturday) and a couple emails asking about volunteering (which required you to commit for every day including work week). Very little in local papers etc. It was posted on AHAI site. There was very little push to get girls there by USA Hockey or AHAI. Why not make it free for girls with their hockey jerseys? If Mission was asked to help with promotion, the attendance would have been double.
About Mission teams, U19 (with no Coyne) and U16 played practice games with anyone who wanted them. I guess the boys played USA. USA Hockey would not allow at least 1 team to play U14 team (what a great experience that would have been for our girls!). All Girls teams had gear out of rink last week for the teams to use our locker rooms (I believe someone may have seen the Mission Boys 97 team there getting ready for Nationals). U19 and U14 are practicing still for Nationals and both had Saturday and Sunday practices at a different rinks so the girls from U14 that came did so late after practice on Saturday. There were some local girls from other teams - mostly younger girls - there. Spring break is here so lots of other girls (especially older) are gone this week. I believe that the big problem was that the promotion was done nationally with little desire to get local clubs involved?
When boys teams come over, local clubs sponsor teams and that generates a lot of involvement. Nothing was done here that I know of.
Now, about Coyne, someone said she was a "nonfactor" in the first two periods of Japan game. C'mon, non-factor? She generated multiple scoring opportunities. Made great (some fantastic) passes to teamates and was dominant. Yes, she had no goals until the 3rd, but non-factor? Now, maybe Ammerman had a great game - but don't say Coyne was a "non-factor" to try and make a point. Finally, what many of you know, Coyne is the ABSOLUTE BEST role model to our girls in Illinois as a hockey player AND as a person. She works harder than any boy or girl player that I have seen. (As for school, I can't count the times I have seen her on the bike at the rink doing her homework.) Whatever school she goes to will be lucky to have her on and off the ice.
Sorry for the rant, but I have a question. I made it a point to watch Rigsby in San Jose (NAPHL) and Fond Du Lac (Central District), she didn't dress in either place, and I heard she was injured. She didn't play Saturday, but I guess she played Sunday. Is she 100% and will she play later this week?
FWIW, a couple comments from a local dad (with a daughter on Mission):
Attendance. I was shocked at the low attendence on Saturday. Drove right up to my normal practice parking spot. There were a few girl players there but not as many as I expected. There were almost no other unrelated spectators. I expect that the USA attendence is higher because they have lots of family members in attendence more so than more people coming out to watch them.
Promotion? I believe USA Hockey was promoter/organizer. Very, very few e-mails came out about this event - in fact I got a fairly complicated ticket purchase email (that I ignored and just bought tickets on Saturday) and a couple emails asking about volunteering (which required you to commit for every day including work week). Very little in local papers etc. It was posted on AHAI site. There was very little push to get girls there by USA Hockey or AHAI. Why not make it free for girls with their hockey jerseys? If Mission was asked to help with promotion, the attendance would have been double.
About Mission teams, U19 (with no Coyne) and U16 played practice games with anyone who wanted them. I guess the boys played USA. USA Hockey would not allow at least 1 team to play U14 team (what a great experience that would have been for our girls!). All Girls teams had gear out of rink last week for the teams to use our locker rooms (I believe someone may have seen the Mission Boys 97 team there getting ready for Nationals). U19 and U14 are practicing still for Nationals and both had Saturday and Sunday practices at a different rinks so the girls from U14 that came did so late after practice on Saturday. There were some local girls from other teams - mostly younger girls - there. Spring break is here so lots of other girls (especially older) are gone this week. I believe that the big problem was that the promotion was done nationally with little desire to get local clubs involved?
When boys teams come over, local clubs sponsor teams and that generates a lot of involvement. Nothing was done here that I know of.
Now, about Coyne, someone said she was a "nonfactor" in the first two periods of Japan game. C'mon, non-factor? She generated multiple scoring opportunities. Made great (some fantastic) passes to teamates and was dominant. Yes, she had no goals until the 3rd, but non-factor? Now, maybe Ammerman had a great game - but don't say Coyne was a "non-factor" to try and make a point. Finally, what many of you know, Coyne is the ABSOLUTE BEST role model to our girls in Illinois as a hockey player AND as a person. She works harder than any boy or girl player that I have seen. (As for school, I can't count the times I have seen her on the bike at the rink doing her homework.) Whatever school she goes to will be lucky to have her on and off the ice.
Sorry for the rant, but I have a question. I made it a point to watch Rigsby in San Jose (NAPHL) and Fond Du Lac (Central District), she didn't dress in either place, and I heard she was injured. She didn't play Saturday, but I guess she played Sunday. Is she 100% and will she play later this week?
fanof the game
Registered User
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
I too was disappointed in the attendance. Seems to be little promotion of a World Championships. I haven't seen anything on the news, and the stands are largely unoccupied. There is a good contingent of Canadians as many drove down to attend, and the Finns are quite loud in their support, but where are the local players/parents who, one owuld think, had received many notices about such a prominent event\?
I too was disappointed in the attendance. Seems to be little promotion of a World Championships. I haven't seen anything on the news, and the stands are largely unoccupied. There is a good contingent of Canadians as many drove down to attend, and the Finns are quite loud in their support, but where are the local players/parents who, one owuld think, had received many notices about such a prominent event\?
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Surprised no one has shared much information. I went out to the tournament web site at http://www.iihf.com/channels0910/ww18 to find this information.
Round-robin play is complete. Here are the standings and the remaining schedule:
Group A:
Group B:
Relegation round (three games): CZE vs. RUS - 3/31, 4/2, and 4/3
Quarterfinals: SWE vs. JPN ; FIN vs. GER - 3/31
Fifth Place Game: Quarterfinal losers - 4/2
Semifinals: CAN vs. FIN/GER winner ; USA vs. SWE/JPN winner - 4/2
Bronze and Gold Medal games - 4/3
Surprised no one has shared much information. I went out to the tournament web site at http://www.iihf.com/channels0910/ww18 to find this information.
Round-robin play is complete. Here are the standings and the remaining schedule:
Group A:
Code:
Rank Team W OTW OTL L PTS GDF
1 USA 3 0 0 0 9 +30
2 FIN 1 0 0 2 3 -3
3 JPN 1 0 0 2 3 -10
4 CZE 1 0 0 2 3 -17
Code:
Rank Team W OTW OTL L PTS GDF
1 CAN 3 0 0 0 9 +26
2 SWE 2 0 0 1 6 -4
3 GER 1 0 0 2 3 -14
4 RUS 0 0 0 3 0 -8Quarterfinals: SWE vs. JPN ; FIN vs. GER - 3/31
Fifth Place Game: Quarterfinal losers - 4/2
Semifinals: CAN vs. FIN/GER winner ; USA vs. SWE/JPN winner - 4/2
Bronze and Gold Medal games - 4/3
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prepplayer
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
U18 worlds is a waste of USA Hockey money. Look at the scores. They would have been better off just doing a tournmant with Canada - a 3 out of 5game series. Imagine how much money would have been spent if the series was in Japan. In the end this just becomes a college recruiting tournament. The girls are at a hotel for 2 weeks and everyone knows it is going to be USA vs. Canada in the finals before the series even starts. Just an opinion.
U18 worlds is a waste of USA Hockey money. Look at the scores. They would have been better off just doing a tournmant with Canada - a 3 out of 5game series. Imagine how much money would have been spent if the series was in Japan. In the end this just becomes a college recruiting tournament. The girls are at a hotel for 2 weeks and everyone knows it is going to be USA vs. Canada in the finals before the series even starts. Just an opinion.
granddaddyscout
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Yours is a very short sighted view, the rest of the world needs events like this to create an incentive for development. In the male sports world you can look back and see similarly lopsided scores in basketball and hockey if you go back to the early days of international competition. In fact even today there are far more examples of disparity in international competition than there are examples of "deep" competition.
There is more competition now than there was three years ago and having this event every year will help to create closer competition in the future. Many of the European countries have very small talent pools to draw from, so events like this help to create excitement for those countries to play against the top players in the world.
Yours is a very short sighted view, the rest of the world needs events like this to create an incentive for development. In the male sports world you can look back and see similarly lopsided scores in basketball and hockey if you go back to the early days of international competition. In fact even today there are far more examples of disparity in international competition than there are examples of "deep" competition.
There is more competition now than there was three years ago and having this event every year will help to create closer competition in the future. Many of the European countries have very small talent pools to draw from, so events like this help to create excitement for those countries to play against the top players in the world.
prepplayer
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
I guess you could say my view is a little short sighted, but I really wasn't worried about creating excitement for European countries.
I guess you could say my view is a little short sighted, but I really wasn't worried about creating excitement for European countries.
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
You're right let's exclude the rest of the world that wants to compete. Tell the Fins, the Swede's and the Russians to stay home. That will build interest in women's hockey. Let's not try to build hockey on the women's side. Imagine if Canada had that same approach 40 or 50 years ago on the men's side. Let's not play the USA because we're just going to kill them so we'll play inter squad games instead. Now imagine the impact on women' hockey. Would there even be Olympic Hockey today on the women's side if not for international competition? Would college hockey even exist on the women's side today? What would the college ranks look like today? Even with "title 9" would there be the amount of opportunities that there are for our daughters? Your thinking is beyond short sighted, it's just blind.
Your screen name is Prepplayer, I assume your name refers to your daughter.
What if years ago the other prep schools excluded your daughter's current school from competition? Maybe your daughter's team would not exist today. Maybe the opportunity for your daughter to compete and receive an excellent education may not exist. I'm not sure how old your daughter is but in a relatively short time you will see first hand just how few opportunities there are for women to play DI college hockey.
Excluding any country from international competiton would be a huge mistake. (at least at this point in time) International play (at all levels men and women) is a crucial part of growing the game of hockey. Just my opinion.
You're right let's exclude the rest of the world that wants to compete. Tell the Fins, the Swede's and the Russians to stay home. That will build interest in women's hockey. Let's not try to build hockey on the women's side. Imagine if Canada had that same approach 40 or 50 years ago on the men's side. Let's not play the USA because we're just going to kill them so we'll play inter squad games instead. Now imagine the impact on women' hockey. Would there even be Olympic Hockey today on the women's side if not for international competition? Would college hockey even exist on the women's side today? What would the college ranks look like today? Even with "title 9" would there be the amount of opportunities that there are for our daughters? Your thinking is beyond short sighted, it's just blind.
Your screen name is Prepplayer, I assume your name refers to your daughter.
What if years ago the other prep schools excluded your daughter's current school from competition? Maybe your daughter's team would not exist today. Maybe the opportunity for your daughter to compete and receive an excellent education may not exist. I'm not sure how old your daughter is but in a relatively short time you will see first hand just how few opportunities there are for women to play DI college hockey.
Excluding any country from international competiton would be a huge mistake. (at least at this point in time) International play (at all levels men and women) is a crucial part of growing the game of hockey. Just my opinion.
Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Events like this are primarily for the development of hockey in other countries, and secondarily to provide international experience to NA players. In addition, it provides a means of showing the IOC, etc that these other countries have a pipeline of younger players int the sport who may be actually beginning to close the gap to some extent relative to NA.
Events like this are primarily for the development of hockey in other countries, and secondarily to provide international experience to NA players. In addition, it provides a means of showing the IOC, etc that these other countries have a pipeline of younger players int the sport who may be actually beginning to close the gap to some extent relative to NA.
OnMAA
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Re: 2010 IIHF World Women's U18 Championship
Your statement creates excitement for the European countries.
Your statement creates excitement for the European countries.