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2009 Green Bay Packers - NFC North the 3-4 way

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Slap Shot said:
Quiet before the storm?

Besides, I think that thread is all tongue-in-cheek bravado anyway. :)
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Indeed. This rivalry has gone down the tubes.

I actually do not believe that. I think fans of both sides don't really know what to think or know what the other team is bringing. After the game starts and there are a few goofy calls (which will happen) both of these threads will explode/implode, whichever you prefer.
 
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state of hockey said:
Indeed. This rivalry has gone down the tubes.

I actually do not believe that. I think fans of both sides don't really know what to think or know what the other team is bringing. After the game starts and there are a few goofy calls (which will happen) both of these threads will explode/implode, whichever you prefer.
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I beg to differ :). I think the Vikings are a better team and will win. I don't think they are significantly better, but they are. The fact that two of Minnesota's greatest strengths match up well with what have been Green Bay's two huge weaknesses the past two weeks doesn't bode well for the Pack. Throw in the Dump which should be as loud as ever and I can't see Green Bay winning.

Considering this is the way I see it...at least it will be impossible for me to be disappointed. Sort of like being an Oakland fan for a week. :)
 
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4 people are riding in a train carriage - A Packer fan, a pretty young blonde girl, an ugly old woman and Brett Favre.

It all goes dark when the train goes through a tunnel. In the dark there's the sound of an almighty slap, and when the train emerges from the tunnel Brett Favre is rubbing his face, and there's a huge red mark on his cheek.

The old lady thinks "I bet that Brett Favre fondled the blonde in the dark and she slapped him"

The pretty young blonde thinks " I bet Brett Favre tried to fondle me in the dark, got the old lady by mistake, and she hit him"

Brett Favre thinks "I bet that Packer fan fondled the blonde in the dark, but the blonde thought it was me and hit me"

The Packer Fan thinks "I hope there's another tunnel coming up soon so I can slap Brett Favre again"
 
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XYZ said:
I beg to differ :). I think the Vikings are a better team and will win. I don't think they are significantly better, but they are. The fact that two of Minnesota's greatest strengths match up well with what have been Green Bay's two huge weaknesses the past two weeks doesn't bode well for the Pack. Throw in the Dump which should be as loud as ever and I can't see Green Bay winning.

Considering this is the way I see it...at least it will be impossible for me to be disappointed. Sort of like being an Oakland fan for a week. :)
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Or a Lions fan for a season...
 
Re: 2009 Green Bay Packers - NFC North the 3-4 way

state of hockey said:
Indeed. This rivalry has gone down the tubes.

I actually do not believe that. I think fans of both sides don't really know what to think or know what the other team is bringing. After the game starts and there are a few goofy calls (which will happen) both of these threads will explode/implode, whichever you prefer.
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I'm a Vikes fan 2 weeks (and one time, 3 weeks) of the year. And I agree with you. I don't know WHAT to think. Despite Cheech's (Percy Harvin) production so far, I think the Packers' receivers are better (assuming Jennings is healthy and is playing). AP is obviously better, and I think the QBs are a wash (Favre somehow gets it done, with support of course, but Rodgers is the more talented/skilled/able-bodied at this point). Vikes' D-line is unreal. Defense is solid. GB? Tough to say. Better than last year, but that's not saying much.

Homefield doesn't exist at the Dome, but I guess that could change this year. Traditionally, there are more Packer fans there than there should be.

The line is about MN -3 right now, which in betting circles means a wash (home team gets 3 points automatically). In that aspect, I smell a trap, and that MN is actually favored by about 6.5-7.5, since WI usually bets on their team no matter what the odds are (so in this case, Vegas "wants/needs" more money to come in on MN).

I think the key for GB is to spread the D. Not necessarily downfield, but spread out, with Rodgers making a lot of screens and such. Get MN's front line to leave gaps, so the GB running game can maybe MAYBE succeed.
 
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I actually woke up feeling very good about this game today and am not the least big nervous like I sometimes get on Packers' game days. Maybe it's because the Wisconsin football teams got a road split this weekend regardless of what happens tonight. Maybe it's because morepressure for tonight is currently on the Vikings since they need to hold serve at home. It's also on Favre to prove he's still got it and can overcome a highly emotional situation he hasn't always been great at handling post-Holmgren. The pressure of course will shift directly to the Packers and the Thompson/McCarthy braintrust for next month's matchup (especially if the Vikings hold serve tonight AND Favre plays reasonably well), but right now I think the Packers can go in with an underdog "nothing to lose" approach.
 
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As far as how the Packers win, here are my keys.

*Don't load up on Peterson. He'll get some yards regardless. Make sure his bursts are for 15 and not 60. Loading the box is riskier to giving up the home run. Make Favre be patient because I just don't believe he'll patiently dink and dunk his way to a win in this one.

*Defensive or special teams TD. There will be shots between Favre's propensity to throw a few interceptable balls a game and the Vikings' coverage units. Without this I honestly think they'll have a tough time pulling one out and they couldn't do it last year even with this advantage.

*Spread out the Vikings and throw every variety of play you have at them. It will be hard to out-execute the Vikings d-line, so keeping them guessing is key. This is a spot the Packers are lacking, a good 3rd down back who is explosive on screens and draws.

*Be smarter about taking your shots downfield. Rodgers has taken too many hits looking too far downfield so far this season. When the Vikings think they can blitz the 5 man protection is when they need to have a motion man come in and help to give him that extra partial count needed. The Packers have an advantage on each side of the DB vs WR matchup, but if they treat their weaknesses like they aren't there they won't be able to take advantage.

*Chip and release blocking by the TEs to be OK with checking down for 4 or 5 yards at a crack. They need to take what is there to stay in more favorable down and distance situations. Predictability will be a killer.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Well this is about the dumbest thing you've ever posted...
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Well, in regards to the one play it's an accurate statement. Otherwise, he always could have been talking about hair length.
 
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I know the game isn't officially over yet, but to be honest this was the most relaxed I've been watching a Packers' game in a long time. I knew going in they needed to play without major mistakes and they needed a fairly officiated game to win. The error-free football went out the window on the largely unforced fumble as the Packers were moving the ball downfield with ease. The officials being on the take was out the window on the Vikings' first play from scrimmage as we watched Tramon Williams have his jersey pulled over his head hockey style right at the point of attack with nothing called after the Packers were flagged a couple of times on their opening drive. I knew then it was over.
 
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The officials didn't lose this game for the Packers, their terrible line play on both sides of the ball cost them the game.

It wasn't the best officiating ever, but it didn't cost the Packers that one.
 
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Slap Shot said:
You wouldn't be a Packers fan if you didn't blame a loss on anything other then simply getting beat. Good job outta you.
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I'm just too mellow to throw the crackback on you. I'll just ask you to please quote the entire post next time if you are going to try and crack me. I know you can do better. I've seen it. Did the officials cost the Packers the game? No. Did they officiate it objectively? No. 2 different issues.
 
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Slap Shot said:
You wouldn't be a Packers fan if you didn't blame a loss on anything other then simply getting beat. Good job outta you.
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Rodgers getting sacked 8 times had nothing to do with it. Greg Jennings only having 3 catches for 31 yards? Nothing to do with it. It's all because the officials were on the take...
 
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Well. There was no pressure on the Packers for this one. It was up to the Vikings to hold serve. That will change in a few weeks. Hopefully the wear down will start for the old man by then so we get to enjoy part of it in person and not just wait for late December and the playoffs.
 
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MW4Bucky&SNC said:
I'm just too mellow to throw the crackback on you. I'll just ask you to please quote the entire post next time if you are going to try and crack me. I know you can do better. I've seen it. Did the officials cost the Packers the game? No. Did they officiate it objectively? No. 2 different issues.
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And that second issue is complete mularkey.
 
MW4Bucky&SNC said:
Did the officials cost the Packers the game? No. Did they officiate it objectively? No. 2 different issues.
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I knew going in they needed to play without major mistakes and they needed a fairly officiated game to win.
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I'm mostly having some fun with you, but to be clear the officiating wouldn't be key were it not to play a major part in the game. Here's a novel concept - perhaps GB was called for more penalties because the Vikings DL beat the crap out of the GB OL? :)
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Rodgers getting sacked 8 times had nothing to do with it. Greg Jennings only having 3 catches for 31 yards? Nothing to do with it. It's all because the officials were on the take...
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You guys crack me up. I thought the education in Minnesota was supposed to be good. Good enough to read part of the post anyway I guess. If you can point out to me how I said it was all about the officials without mention of any problems by the Packers then you'll get my full written apology. I'd now crack you but I'm laughing to hard at you right now to do so. Sorry if I'm not taking the bait.
 
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