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2009 Green Bay Packers - NFC North the 3-4 way

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So, are they going back to the GREEN BAY and PACKERS endzones? I remember two years ago they had it like that for the preseason, but then switched to slashes. I'm hoping they switch to slashes again, if not for the look than for the fact that Madden won't be screwed up this whole season.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
And there's basically nothing you can say to people who think that way to convince them otherwise. Which is a shame, considering that the facts are absolutely against any of the "Thompson had an agenda" conspiracy theorists.

Putting up with people who pretend that vocal displeasure with Favre is entirely new to our fanbase as of either last week or the Jets trade will become equally difficult. Walking away just might be the best solution there, as well.
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I started saying TT was aiming to push Favre out years before Favre retired the first time, let alone before Favre came out and said he felt he was pushed out. I'm just as befuddled by you "there's no way Ted 'we have had no contact with Favre or his people' Thompson could do any thing dishonest or underhanded idiots as you are by us idiots.
 
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Not sure how many people stayed up for the entire game. I had to because of work(we broadcast all preseason games on the TV station I work for). And I have three things to say about this game. First, the starting offense and defense do look incredible. I know, I know, preseason, playing the Browns and Bills, blah blah blah. These units, right now, look amazing. After seeing how they were clicking tonight, I am convinced that this team would have put up 50, 55 points tonight. They were that on, and, save for a couple big runs, the D looked great again. A few more turnovers, and increased pressure on the QB. And this is without the starting middle linebacker. Second, heaven help us should anything happen to a starter. The second/third string units look simply pathetic tonight. I am talking horrible. The score at the half was 38-10. The final was 44-38. They made Matt Leinart look like Elway 2.0. And I am fully convinced that I am a more capable 3rd String QB than Brian Brohm. I mean, in the game played this morning, I threw for 5 TD and no picks. And third, tonight's 2 minute warning occurred at roughly 11:55 central time. We start our newscast one minute after they wrap up the game coverage, which, using the formula of taking the time remaining in the game, multiply it by 3(which is actually pretty reliable....try it sometime), would put the end of the game at around 12:01. Usually about a minute for wrap up, then the minute before our news, would equate to a start time of 12:03. We did not start our news until nearly 12:25. The final 2 minutes of the game seriously took about half an hour. A couple scores, a couple booth replays, and two botched 2 point conversions. Half an hour. Arizona scored to make it 38-31, and recovered the onside kick. Drive down the field, and with :45 left, score to make it 38-37, and go for 2. Don't get it. So all the Pack have to do is fall on the onside kick, and kneel down a couple times. What do they do? Return the onside kick for a TD. On the PAT, they get it blocked, but AZ is offside. Retry, right? Oh no. McCarthy calls timeout, and they go for 2. Do not get it, so it is a 7 point game, 44-37. Arizona gets as far as the GB 30 and the game ends with a kneel down. I would have welcomed the last :30 of a tight basketball game compared to this crap!
 
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powerofyellowandblack said:
Not sure how many people stayed up for the entire game. I had to because of work(we broadcast all preseason games on the TV station I work for). And I have three things to say about this game. First, the starting offense and defense do look incredible.
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I watched the game twice. Don't ask why, but I did. I was thrilled with the play of the first units the first time. Second time I was scared. The first team offense looked good. Except that the running game was really never challenged. The defense looked good...and I expect them to win every game that they force 3 turnovers and score a defensive td in the first half. The problem is that the defense didn't look very good against the run and they forced one punt against a team without it's number 2 and 3 receivers; and boldin and breaston are respectively excellent as a 2 and a 3. Ignore the turnovers and AZ moved the ball at will. Rodgers should have been picked on the first and probably on another first half drive.That's a game where the Pack gets crushed if the breaks go the other way in the regular season. Maybe I'm just looking for excuses to temper my high expectations.
 
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I hadn't opened this thread in about 2 weeks. Looks like I didn't miss a ton. As far as the former Green Bay QB who tends to garner a lot of press goes, my biggest emotion is sadness. He will have his moments along the way, but it's obvious his body won't hold up. I just wish Irv was still alive so he could have provided the assistance he needed to help him go out with grace and dignity. He would never have let this farce go on. None of the yahoos in his inner circle give a crap about anything other than lapping up the gravy. They don't care about Brett's well-being. And to think all Brett needed to do to avoid being the villan was say he wasn't ready to make a decision. Then the Packers would have been the bad guys if they made a decision to push him out if they wanted to move on as is alleged by some. This is certainly is up for debate, but what some call "pushing him out" I call "trying to repeal ridiculous special rules." His loyals forget he retired. It then put the ball in the Packers' court on whether they wanted to re-enter the world of his drama. They correctly declined. It won't happen, but I'd love to see him greeted with apathy if he's still in once piece when the Vikings visit Lambeau in November. With his attention addiction it would kill him much worse than any booing.

Enough about mediocre broken down QBs for other teams. On to those who really matter. Those who I converse with often know I tend not to overstate things in these threads. The big thing I came to say is if ARodg stays healthy I see no way this team doesn't make the playoffs. With the balance and depth they have in skill position players they have he's a legit candidate to be mentioned in MVP conversation as long as the young o-line performs. I'm expecting to see the best QB play we've seen in Green Bay in probably 10 years. They just need to be ready to see a ton of blitzes. His decision-making is so much better
 
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So I guess this is proof that the Bears aren't the Packers #1 rival any more. :(

Week One is here and I still haven't decided if I should drink the Kool-Aid or not. I really don't see any middle ground this season. The potential (and schedule) is there for this team to go 12-4, 13-3 and make a run for the Super Bowl. However, they're only one or 2 key injuries from spinning their wheels at 4-12 or 5-11. I suppose in the NFL that's the case for most teams, but I don't care about the other 31.

Anyway, I'll be missing week one as in an ironic twist of fate I'll be at Soldier Field (U2 concert) while the Bears are up at Lambeau. I plan on leaving a few Packer stickers as gifts in the restroom. :D
 
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gbp12xchmp said:
Week One is here and I still haven't decided if I should drink the Kool-Aid or not.
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I drank the Kool-Aid, mixed another quart and drank that too. :eek:

There's really no reason not to be pumped up.
1) The schedule, as of right now, looks favorable
2) Caper's D's that he has taken over have a great first year success rate
3) A Rog is as accurate as anyone
4) The O has more weapons than ever

The only ? is how good is the O Line going to be, but as long as they don't horrifically stink, everything will be better than ok.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I'm disrespecting the Bears by not talking about them. But, if it helps:

Jay Cutler is a whiny baby. We're going to sack him 6 times on Sunday. 8 if he forgets to remove his tampon.
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Buck the Fears. For those of a lower intellect, like that of a Bear or Cub fan, switch the "B" and the "F" around, and you get my true thought.

Cutler is going to throw 2 picks. The first will be a horrible throw right to a Packer without a Chicago receiver within 10 yards, then blame the receiver for running a wrong route. The second will be to Aaron Kampman, his first career INT, on a floating duck after Charles Woodson blindsides him on a blitz. The reason this time? He did not remove said tampon, and therefore his chi was not centered and could not focus properly. And the O-line missed the block.
 
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Wow. Good game. Way to respond after that absolute joke of an illegal contact call on Harris. Kind of fitting that Harris gets the pick that ends the game. Oh, and the Bears still suck.
 
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powerofyellowandblack said:
Wow. Good game. Way to respond after that absolute joke of an illegal contact call on Harris. Kind of fitting that Harris gets the pick that ends the game. Oh, and the Bears still suck.
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I couldn't be any more sick of the way the NFL has these guys call illegal contact. I notice it in other games, although it doesn't get me quite as ornery as when it hurts the Packers. Most of the time I blame the way it is mandated from the top, although this particular example was horrible officiating.

Finally Rodgers can start to get the monkey off his back. That took shotput size stones by McCarthy to make that call on 3rd and 1. When you take it to 4th down so many bad things can happen. I'm just happy they didn't take the ball out of Rodgers' hands and expect Crosby to make some ridiculously long field goal for the win like they did a few too many times last season. If this doesn't prove defense is over half attitude and mindset I don't know what will. With the exception of some snaps from Matthews, this was exactly the same group of personnel who played an entirely different scheme last season and would get slowly picked appart instead of being the aggressor.

Whoever lost this one was going to be lamenting their mistakes and missed opportunites. Chicago needed a TD on that late drive, they had some turnovers, and of course the fake punt was awful. The Packers squandered opportunities on those turnovers and missed 5 or 6 shots at 20+ yard passing gains thru no fault of the Bears. A couple were underthrown, one was overthrown, and at least 2 were dropped.
 
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MW4Bucky&SNC said:
I couldn't be any more sick of the way the NFL has these guys call illegal contact. I notice it in other games, although it doesn't get me quite as ornery as when it hurts the Packers. Most of the time I blame the way it is mandated from the top, although this particular example was horrible officiating.
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Even more frustrating when you consider that the Bears should have been called for illegal formation instead. Not that it should matter, because that was a call you'd expect to see in a basketball game. It's because of calls like that that wide recievers turn into raging sissies.

MW4Bucky&SNC said:
Finally Rodgers can start to get the monkey off his back. That took shotput size stones by McCarthy to make that call on 3rd and 1. When you take it to 4th down so many bad things can happen. I'm just happy they didn't take the ball out of Rodgers' hands and expect Crosby to make some ridiculously long field goal for the win like they did a few too many times last season. If this doesn't prove defense is over half attitude and mindset I don't know what will. With the exception of some snaps from Matthews, this was exactly the same group of personnel who played an entirely different scheme last season and would get slowly picked appart instead of being the aggressor.
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The whole "Rodgers can't win late" thing was completely overblown anyway, for reasons that are obvious to anyone who, you know, actually watches and understands football games.

It was really rough watching our offensive line give up so much ground last night, especially Barbre. Rodgers was not well protected, and Grant was left to make his own holes too frequently. Other than that, I thought it was a well played game by the Pack. The defense is becoming something that I'm really enjoying to watch. I like our ability to play quality man coverage so that we still have some responsibility during some of our crazier blitzing schemes. A little tweeking on the offense, and this will certainly be a strong team to watch.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
The whole "Rodgers can't win late" thing was completely overblown anyway, for reasons that are obvious to anyone who, you know, actually watches and understands football games.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm just happy for national perception change. He had come back in the last half of the 4th quarter to give them the lead or tie several times or at least put them in the position to do so only to see something else go wrong with defense or special teams. At Minnesota, at Chicago, and home against Carolina all come immediately to mind.

I'll be interested to see how Barbre responds and how the team responds schematically to his awful effort. Making the TEs blockers on every play isn't the answer. It really could lead to more of the blizting between the 3 gaps like we saw last night if the TEs need to stay wide to help on the outside. That was one adjustment we saw at times last night was motioning the TE into the middle to help pick up blitzers inside.
 
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Ochocinco says TD against Packers will lead to 'Lambeau Leap'
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Attention, Packers fans: Chad Ochocinco could be headed for a grandstand near you.

The Cincinnati Bengals' wide receiver says he'll do a celebratory "Lambeau Leap" into the end-zone seats if he scores in Sunday's game at Lambeau Field.

"I'm looking for the Cheeseheads to embrace 'Ocho,'" he said Wednesday on a conference call with reporters who cover the Packers.

Ochocinco recalled receiving an "embrace" from Cleveland fans when he jumped into the Browns' "Dawg Pound" fan section -- perhaps blocking out the shower of beer and derision that also rained down on him.

How would he be received by Packers fans?

"I'm not sure," Ochocinco said. "If they're going to accept one individual out of all the NFL teams to embrace if he got into the stands, I think I should be that one."

And Ochocinco said if he did do a Lambeau Leap, it wouldn't be a sign of disrespect.

"I'm no harm," Ochocinco said. "It's all fun, it's all entertainment. It's really a challenge from myself for that defense and that secondary to stop me from doing what I'm coming in there to do, and that's to do everything I can to give us a 'W.'"
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So what's the appropriate reaction to that, if that headcase actually does it?

Do you flat out reject him, as violently as possible, where he gets shoved hard as he jumps up? Do you dump beer on him, or is that a waste of good beer? Do you catch him, then carry him into the stands and try to break his fingers and stomp on him before depositing him back on the field? Do you body surf him to the top and toss him over the ledge at the top of the south end zone stands? Tazer?
 
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