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117th Congress: DEMS IN DISARRAY!!!111!!

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mookie1995 said:
this immediately has mookie picturing madam choi strapping one on and doing mitch doggy.
and mookie likes it
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Pictured, a SFW version of Mookie's dream. With the exact same facial expressions on both.
 
psych said:
She has no chance of winning, but she has a great chance to win 1-2% in a state where elections are decided by that amount.
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Not even. She reminds me of those 1990s Libertarians who would poll about 4% leading up to the election and then get 0.5% actuals. People who give middle finger votes rarely actually show up. I mean what could be more "lamestream" than voting? And the ones who do vote for her will be Republicans who like Candace Owens because she's "one of the good ones." It will siphon off tard votes from R.
 
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Kepler said:
Not even. She reminds me of those 1990s Libertarians who would poll about 4% leading up to the election and then get 0.5% actuals. People who give middle finger votes rarely actually show up. I mean what could be more "lamestream" than voting?
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Damnit I'm agreeing with you too much! ;^)

This is exactly what I was getting at. It might have worked if the Red Wave happened but it didn't. And AZ especially went sideways on her chances.
 
Kepler said:
Not even. She reminds me of those 1990s Libertarians who would poll about 4% leading up to the election and then get 0.5% actuals. People who give middle finger votes rarely actually show up. I mean what could be more "lamestream" than voting? And the ones who do vote for her will be Republicans who like Candace Owens because she's "one of the good ones." It will siphon off tard votes from R.
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Except in every Arizona Senate race since 1998, a third-party candidate has won at least 2% of the vote; some, over 5%. Others? Two third-party candidates earned 1.5% or more, including the fucking Green Party. I was being conservative giving Sinema only 1-2% in a state that has a—loads of third-party voters, but that’s all that’s needed to swing an election down there. Hopefully she’s as vain as Trump, and instead of facing an inevitable beatdown, she retires to her cushy private sector career.
 
Handyman said:
Yeah but everyone assumes that 1-2% would be Dem voters...they wouldn't.
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I’m not assuming that at all. She gets 2% of the vote, with 1.5% Dem and 0.5% Rep voting for her, with a progressive Democrat like Gallego on the ballot, and not a moderate one like Kelly, in a purple state?
Bottom line, outside of being rid of her stupid a—, nothing good comes from this at election time- unless she retires before 2024.
 
psych said:
I’m not assuming that at all. She gets 2% of the vote, with 1.5% Dem and 0.5% Rep voting for her, with a progressive Democrat like Gallego on the ballot, and not a moderate one like Kelly, in a purple state?
Bottom line, outside of being rid of her stupid a—, nothing good comes from this at election time- unless she retires before 2024.
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Or her being on the ballot causes R to relax because they think we'll split the vote. There are infinite hypotheticals, so I don't worry about it. She may well have done more damage being a sore loser after being primaried anyway.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
The Senate looks like it's impossible to hold in 2024. The Map is brutal for Democrats.
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No incumbent of either party who stood in 2022 lost.

Work hard and draw the distinction between the party of governance and the party of terrorism. We will be fine if we can simply keep demonstrating that we are TRYING to help while they are committed to their childish, treasonous histrionics.
 
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Kepler said:
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No incumbent of either party who stood in 2022 lost.

Work hard and draw the distinction between the party of governance and the party of terrorism. We will be fine if we can simply keep demonstrating that we are TRYING to help while they are committed to their childish, treasonous histrionics.
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Montana and Ohio have a Democrat right now. It's got nothing to do WITH Scooby.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Montana and Ohio have a Democrat right now.
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Georgia had a Democrat in 2022. Kansas had a Democratic incumbent governor. And still does.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'
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Being a Doomer hurts the ball club.
 
Kepler said:
Or her being on the ballot causes R to relax because they think we'll split the vote. There are infinite hypotheticals, so I don't worry about it. She may well have done more damage being a sore loser after being primaried anyway.
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Maybe. Maybe it turns out that the joy of her being gone eventually outweighs the worry for me over her chances of torpedoing a Democrat in a winnable race we’ll need on the tough Senate map Scoob points out Democrats are facing in 2024. Her potential presence in the race adds a confounding variable, not necessarily a good one for Democrats. The recent Oregon race for Governor comes to mind, myriad different factors between the races, coupled with it being just one data point notwithstanding, was not good for Democrats. They won, but it was closer. I don’t mean to imply by any means this worry keeps me up at night, just that my initial reaction wasn’t a positive one.
 
Kepler said:
With any event outside our control, game it out and figure out how to use it. Every wind is useful to a good sailor.
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Just thinking ahead. Who are the good sailors left? Pelosi and McConnell. Otherwise the brain trust has been bled out from the GOP. The Dems are just addicted to the Olds but I think they have some bright futures. AOC has been more or less given the reins on the progressive side. Certainly Schiff and Porter have the chops. There are a few others that seem interested and have some potential, but there's just a small vacuum right now as the old guard dies. They've started to manage the transfer but it's still going to take some time to know if we're shuffling deck chairs or setting up the chess board.

edit: Pete seems like he could be a good choice as well. He's very good at finding the wind.
 
I don't disagree with that sentiment at all, despite me starting to feel sick on the one year anniversary of my house getting assaulted by a tornado.
 
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