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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero

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First Time said:
Fingerprints should be required for a gun.
I had to go through one for my job... So did the hubby.
If a job requires one... Gun ownership sure as hell should.
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Careful, my job is drug-tested, so in that case, so should welfare... ;) (yes, I'm being a jerk right now). :)
 
The Rube said:
Careful, my job is drug-tested, so in that case, so should welfare... ;) (yes, I'm being a jerk right now). :)
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I'd have no issues with that.
Another thing on my husband's job is.. It's a temp job. But because he works at a place that deals with financial information he had to pass an FBI check both with the temp agency and the place he works at and the fingerprinting for the place he works at.
It makes zero sense to me that employment is more stringent than gun ownership.
 
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First Time said:
I'd have no issues with that.
Another thing on my husband's job is.. It's a temp job. But because he works at a place that deals with financial information he had to pass an FBI check both with the temp agency and the place he works at and the fingerprinting for the place he works at.
It makes zero sense to me that employment is more stringent than gun ownership.
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It shouldn't matter if it's a temp job or not. If that job requires it, no matter how long the length of employment, those are the rules for that job. Just sayin'.
 
The Rube said:
It shouldn't matter if it's a temp job or not. If that job requires it, no matter how long the length of employment, those are the rules for that job. Just sayin'.
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I don't disagree... But that isn't the point.
 
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First Time said:
Fingerprints should be required for a gun.
I had to go through one for my job... So did the hubby.
If a job requires one... Gun ownership sure as hell should.
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If I went for my NP license in NH I would need to do a background check, fingerprinting in State Police. I got my RN license in late 80s that I let lapse but they reinstated without needing to do anything. Made no sense to me.

Do Genealogy for a hobby. Don't do the DNA thing because that is cheating :p
 
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I have to get fingerprinted every so often for my job along with multiple background checks, no drug testing though. Granted I work at an airport...
 
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Jimjamesak said:
I have to get fingerprinted every so often for my job along with multiple background checks, no drug testing though. Granted I work at an airport...
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At my job, given the forklifts/cherry pickers, if there is an accident, no matter if there's damage or not, you are off machines until you get drug-tested again. They are pretty strict on that.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I get kind of leery about giving my fingerprint to be honest. I don’t like the idea of a massive database of biometric data.
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So you don't have TSA Pre then? And you've never had to submit to a fingerprinted background check for a job that would involve you having access to sensitive data?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
So you don't have TSA Pre then? And you've never had to submit to a fingerprinted background check for a job that would involve you having access to sensitive data?
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In defense, if you HAVE to do it, ok. But to volunteer it on your own? No thank you.
 
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Anyone else find it interesting, after Nancy Pelosi calls for a national emergency to grab the guns, there's almost immediately two resets of this calendar?

I'd say the left is getting desperate to push their tyranny, and we're seeing right through it.
 
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I am sure you really can't be this stupid in person. Or at least I hope against all hope.
 
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The Rube said:
Careful, my job is drug-tested, so in that case, so should welfare... ;) (yes, I'm being a jerk right now). :)
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'Just sayin'' is just believing. So you would sooner allow just anyone to own a gun...than just help anyone to not sleep on the street?

Now we know where this country's gun problem comes from.
 
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Can anyone link to Nancy's call to grab the guns? I must have missed that story.
 
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French Rage said:
Can anyone link to Nancy's call to grab the guns? I must have missed that story.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You want to talk about a national emergency? Let's talk about today. The one year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That's a national emergency. Why don't you declare that emergency, Mr. President? ... A Democratic president could." <a href="https://t.co/NDvhb339aT">pic.twitter.com/NDvhb339aT</a></p>— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1096152332520300544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ScoobyDoo said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You want to talk about a national emergency? Let's talk about today. The one year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That's a national emergency. Why don't you declare that emergency, Mr. President? ... A Democratic president could." <a href="https://t.co/NDvhb339aT">pic.twitter.com/NDvhb339aT</a></p>— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1096152332520300544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I see. Flaggy doesn't understand the difference between a hypothetical example of why something is a bad idea and an actual call for something. I guess that's one of the many subtleties of social interactions he can't quite comprehend.
 
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French Rage said:
I see. Flaggy doesn't understand the difference between a hypothetical example of why something is a bad idea and an actual call for something. I guess that's one of the many subtleties of social interactions he can't quite comprehend.
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Why would he or anyone else in the 35%? They don't understand anything. They need to become the new minority in this country instead of the ruling class, which is what they've been since about 1980.
 
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The Rube said:
Careful, my job is drug-tested, so in that case, so should welfare... ;) (yes, I'm being a jerk right now). :)
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Feeling philosophical and this got me thinking.

I get the feeling that people are mooching off the system. I also get the whole libertarian thing about people should be able to have personal freedom. In medicine you don't do a test unless you have a plan when you get a result. Have seen this floated but haven't seen too many people talk about how they envision it would work.

We do the test and then what? Feel righteous because we caught them? Do we feel the same way if the person isn't treating their diabetes, cancer, depression, anxiety, cholesterol, blood pressure? Should we test for them too? If they aren't taking care of themselves they can cost money too. Every one of these things caused by a medical condition (including addiction). Theoretically every one of them is not curable but is treatable. Not one of them is manageable without help when you are without means.


So if they test then what? Denying these people benefits without a plan doesn't help if the cost is shifted to other public entities (healthcare, court systems, effects on families that then access more services....)Substances cause all sorts of dysfunction in relationships, in some cases impairs the person's ability to work, make good decisions and causes harm and risk to those around them. It definitely can cause all sorts of health risks. This stuff will happen without treatment.

If we were smart (we are not) we would look at this a medical problem and be trying to handle it in a way that prevents and treats. We don't. We cut education. We let insurance plans avoid coverage or cover so little it almost guarantees failure. We don't have beds or program slots for treatment. We do things like fight programs that provide for increased safety and medical support that other countries have seen success with- injection sites improve percentage of those seeking treatment, continuing treatment when incarcerated decreases death from OD or recidivism at release....

(I have students who are working at a substance use clinic. Holistic treatment provided could be an audiovisual aid for how it can work and the stories before they got there are case studies in how hard it is for people to get help, succeed)
 
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