The CC people are officers carrying out their work? Would you like to rephrase that, laddie?
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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero
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The CC people are officers carrying out their work? Would you like to rephrase that, laddie?
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So with the recent shooting in a very crowded market in France- just think if that happened in the US with an semi-auto weapon that had the kind of magazines used for similar shootings in the US.
6 rounds max and fire rate limit makes a VERY good first step. Assuming that CC isn't going away.
So with the recent shooting in a very crowded market in France- just think if that happened in the US with an semi-auto weapon that had the kind of magazines used for similar shootings in the US.
6 rounds max and fire rate limit makes a VERY good first step. Assuming that CC isn't going away.
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Or, you could just re-read my post. Today's hint: CC permit applications have to be made to law enforcement here, where I'm at. As police interact with citizens on a daily basis, it's kind of handy to have a list of people who have applied to carry a gun.
Or, you could just re-read my post. Today's hint: CC permit applications have to be made to law enforcement here, where I'm at. As police interact with citizens on a daily basis, it's kind of handy to have a list of people who have applied to carry a gun.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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Open carry would be better? I disagree.
Open carry would be better? I disagree.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero
If you think I've been in support of the current gun laws in this country, then you've clearly spent too much time grinding your axe instead of paying attention. I just said that AK isn't really a comparable state to the rest of the USA. People turn wrong when you blot out the Sun for a week or two at a time, and then six months later you don't blot it out at night.
If you think I've been in support of the current gun laws in this country, then you've clearly spent too much time grinding your axe instead of paying attention. I just said that AK isn't really a comparable state to the rest of the USA. People turn wrong when you blot out the Sun for a week or two at a time, and then six months later you don't blot it out at night.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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Vermont is a Constitutional carry state as is ND; however, I still have my ND concealed carry license (class 1) in case I cross a state line into MN or SD and might be carrying.
Vermont is a Constitutional carry state as is ND; however, I still have my ND concealed carry license (class 1) in case I cross a state line into MN or SD and might be carrying.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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In ND your permit application has to go to your local police (if in incorporated city) or sheriff of the county you live in before it goes to ND Bureau of Criminal Investigations (part of the AG's office). Basically, the locals know you've applied.
In ND your permit application has to go to your local police (if in incorporated city) or sheriff of the county you live in before it goes to ND Bureau of Criminal Investigations (part of the AG's office). Basically, the locals know you've applied.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero
Um, dude ... hasn't that been ND/MN/SD weather the last six weeks or so?
Um, dude ... hasn't that been ND/MN/SD weather the last six weeks or so?
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Maine used to require training.
I think someone used the freedom of information act to get the list of everyone that had a CC permit and publish it. That didn't go over very well with some CC permit holders. Then when the republicans took over all branches of our government for a couple years they made Maine a "constitutional carry" state to get rid of the need for any kind of training or certification. Now anyone, no matter how incompetent they are, can carry a concealed weapon if they are legally allowed to own it and they are 21 years old or older (18 for past or current members of the military or off duty police officers).
I'd like to go back to requiring a permit (with a training requirement), but now even though the democrats will control the governorship, house, and senate in Maine I don't see that happening.
Maine used to require training.
I think someone used the freedom of information act to get the list of everyone that had a CC permit and publish it. That didn't go over very well with some CC permit holders. Then when the republicans took over all branches of our government for a couple years they made Maine a "constitutional carry" state to get rid of the need for any kind of training or certification. Now anyone, no matter how incompetent they are, can carry a concealed weapon if they are legally allowed to own it and they are 21 years old or older (18 for past or current members of the military or off duty police officers).
I'd like to go back to requiring a permit (with a training requirement), but now even though the democrats will control the governorship, house, and senate in Maine I don't see that happening.
pokechecker
Banned
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Why 6
When the current AG in MN was asked how to stop these mass killings, he said limit magazine capacity as well, he mentioned that when he goes turkey hunting he only needs two shots. When I go deer or wolf hunting I only need two shots. But the thing is turkeys, deer, and wolves don’t shoot back, bad guys do.
who is going to volunteer to go collect all the magazines there are currently out there, likely in the tens of millions. And who is going to collect them from the bad dudes?
So in short, your suggestion to lower magazine size ain’t gonna fly.
Why 6
When the current AG in MN was asked how to stop these mass killings, he said limit magazine capacity as well, he mentioned that when he goes turkey hunting he only needs two shots. When I go deer or wolf hunting I only need two shots. But the thing is turkeys, deer, and wolves don’t shoot back, bad guys do.
who is going to volunteer to go collect all the magazines there are currently out there, likely in the tens of millions. And who is going to collect them from the bad dudes?
So in short, your suggestion to lower magazine size ain’t gonna fly.
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Correct. That's why we ban and collect all semi-automatics instead.
Why 6
When the current AG in MN was asked how to stop these mass killings, he said limit magazine capacity as well, he mentioned that when he goes turkey hunting he only needs two shots. When I go deer or wolf hunting I only need two shots. But the thing is turkeys, deer, and wolves don’t shoot back, bad guys do.
First of all, who is going to volunteer to go collect all the magazines there are currently out there, likely in the tens of millions. And who is going to collect them from the bad dudes?
Second, the Supreme Court has already ruled a couple decades ago that a jurisdiction cannot legislate magazine size below what the feds say, it is after all, a federal constitution. That the SC is even more conservative today makes it unlikely they will reverse this.
So in short, your suggestion to lower magazine size ain’t gonna fly.
Correct. That's why we ban and collect all semi-automatics instead.
pokechecker
Banned
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so are you gonna volunteer to collect them?
I am guessing there is about 100 million in the US, I have one. BTW, it doesn't have a magazine, so there is another hole in the argument of limiting magazine size.
so are you gonna volunteer to collect them?
I am guessing there is about 100 million in the US, I have one. BTW, it doesn't have a magazine, so there is another hole in the argument of limiting magazine size.
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Well that's maybe because you have argued against those making points in support of gun control 4ish times in the last several weeks while not arguing against data that's for guns - or better yet, have your own point of view. You end up on the same side as Brent, Hovey and Sic - you may not see it this way, but it showed in JJs response. I even called you out on this topic recently. On the other hand, how far back is your vigorous defense of gun control? Let me be clear:
When someone puts out data in isolation (Mississippi has great education)...you say nothing. And someone else says 'wait, when you compare it to South Carolina, it stinks'...why then argue against the data when there are many other valid comparisons and when the point remains valid that Mississippi has garbage education? Why not position it better like 'I'm guessing your point is correct, but there are better comparisons'? Especially if you believe it.
Well that's maybe because you have argued against those making points in support of gun control 4ish times in the last several weeks while not arguing against data that's for guns - or better yet, have your own point of view. You end up on the same side as Brent, Hovey and Sic - you may not see it this way, but it showed in JJs response. I even called you out on this topic recently. On the other hand, how far back is your vigorous defense of gun control? Let me be clear:
When someone puts out data in isolation (Mississippi has great education)...you say nothing. And someone else says 'wait, when you compare it to South Carolina, it stinks'...why then argue against the data when there are many other valid comparisons and when the point remains valid that Mississippi has garbage education? Why not position it better like 'I'm guessing your point is correct, but there are better comparisons'? Especially if you believe it.
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It appears were in complete agreement that guns shouldn't be allowed on the streets. One convert at a time.
It appears were in complete agreement that guns shouldn't be allowed on the streets. One convert at a time.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
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Why would they have to be collected? Rather than that give each gun owner 3 years to turn in any weapon banned and if someone is caught with one after they ban they get 15 years in a fed prison. Or something like that.
They can no longer be produced and many will be voluntarily forfeited slowly thinning the herd over time. This should be viewed as a marathon not a sprint.
Why would they have to be collected? Rather than that give each gun owner 3 years to turn in any weapon banned and if someone is caught with one after they ban they get 15 years in a fed prison. Or something like that.
They can no longer be produced and many will be voluntarily forfeited slowly thinning the herd over time. This should be viewed as a marathon not a sprint.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Keep The Calendar At Zero
Why would I voice my dissent against the minority opinion on this site when there are some 20 other people around here who will do the same, more vociferously, and perhaps more eloquently, than I could?
Why would I voice my dissent against the minority opinion on this site when there are some 20 other people around here who will do the same, more vociferously, and perhaps more eloquently, than I could?
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You're required to #MeToo around here, or you're with the opposition.
You're required to #MeToo around here, or you're with the opposition.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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No. You don't speak for me.
I am not in favor of open carry (even though in ND I am legal to do so)*.
I do favor concealed carry, but believe it or not, I'm not a fan of Constitutional carry. I believe you should be permitted to carry concealed: know the law (pass a test); prove proficiency (on range testing).
*Open carry of a loaded handgun is permitted only by individuals with a valid concealed weapons license. Non permit holders may carry one hour before sunrise until one hour after sunset provided the firearm is unloaded and in plain sight. -- NDCC 62.1-03
No. You don't speak for me.
I am not in favor of open carry (even though in ND I am legal to do so)*.
I do favor concealed carry, but believe it or not, I'm not a fan of Constitutional carry. I believe you should be permitted to carry concealed: know the law (pass a test); prove proficiency (on range testing).
*Open carry of a loaded handgun is permitted only by individuals with a valid concealed weapons license. Non permit holders may carry one hour before sunrise until one hour after sunset provided the firearm is unloaded and in plain sight. -- NDCC 62.1-03
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Works for me.
.....Then have a mental break. Grab your semi-autos. Shoot up a shopping mall.
Works for me.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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Thus cometh the example of why a calm rational discussion on this subject is impossible. Thank you Scoob for being what you are.
Thus cometh the example of why a calm rational discussion on this subject is impossible. Thank you Scoob for being what you are.
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