rufus
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Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
nah, they just didn't grow up with "American attitudes".
nah, they just didn't grow up with "American attitudes".
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0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
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aparch
Acetaminamerican
perhaps he is talking Indiana to Chicago?
The stop-and-frisk at the Skyway Toll Plaza was really thorough. I'm not sure why they kept searching me where they did though.
Wait, what?
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
I dunno. Ask the people (PEOPLE) who get across the border every day. And these are just guns, easier to transport.
I dunno. Ask the people (PEOPLE) who get across the border every day. And these are just guns, easier to transport.
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
You think the Waffle House shooter is going to have the connections to get an AR-15 from Mexico (which was originally smuggled into Mexico from the US)?
I dunno. Ask the people (PEOPLE) who get across the border every day. And these are just guns, easier to transport.
You think the Waffle House shooter is going to have the connections to get an AR-15 from Mexico (which was originally smuggled into Mexico from the US)?
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
The only solution that will work (have the effect of eliminating or substantially eliminating shooting deaths in this country) is effectively a ban on guns. That is, we'd have to pass laws that make it all but impossible to acquire a gun in this country, and that would result in the confiscation/buy back of existing weapons. As I've said repeatedly on this Board, the political and economic will for that action simply doesn't exist in this country at this point in time, no matter how many kids are killed in schools.
All of your other "gun control" is just so much feel good, ineffective nonsense. It's like trying to "control" drunk driving by banning all driving under the influence of beer. Hard liquor and wine? Have at it.
The only solution that will work (have the effect of eliminating or substantially eliminating shooting deaths in this country) is effectively a ban on guns. That is, we'd have to pass laws that make it all but impossible to acquire a gun in this country, and that would result in the confiscation/buy back of existing weapons. As I've said repeatedly on this Board, the political and economic will for that action simply doesn't exist in this country at this point in time, no matter how many kids are killed in schools.
All of your other "gun control" is just so much feel good, ineffective nonsense. It's like trying to "control" drunk driving by banning all driving under the influence of beer. Hard liquor and wine? Have at it.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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by the way, It seems most of these mass shooters are social out casts who are probably sexually frustrated. My theory is if we legalized prostitution they'd be much more content and less likely to snap
Did you see the Toronto van guy is apparently an MRA activist ? I’m so sorry women Aren’t giving him the sex he’s owed.
ticapnews
Never graduate.
Using the logic the NRA apologists use, if some woman had just been "nicer" to him this all could have been avoided.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
This is demonstrably untrue. Canada has a lot of guns, by some estimates a gun for every 3rd person. While the US has many more guns -- some estimate a gun for EVERY person -- most households actually DON'T have a firearm inside. Canada does not have the gun violence the U.S. has. Australia and Germany have as many guns per capita as Canada has, and THEY don't have the gun violence the U.S. has.
To an extent I do agree that some gun control is just so much feel good nonsense. But that is partially because gun control laws are not enough. We need strict enforcement and we need to make it clear to law enforcement nationwide we EXPECT strict enforcement. We are not getting it.
We also need better laws, period. Commit a gun crime, every gun you are connected to gets confiscated and destroyed. And by connected to I'd go as far as saying any gun in your household, regardless of ownership. Gun owners claim they are 100% committed to safety and responsibility? Well if they know some jacked up kid might cost daddy all HIS guns too and they might do a better job of keeping their guns out of reach.
We need better educational and employment opportunities too. We need better mental health education in our schools. All of that takes funding. Ammosexuals seem to have no problem funding a military that is so bloated it would take 20 seasons of "My 600 Pound Life" to cover it all, but God forbid we pay for real, effective mental healthcare in this country.
Finally, no one outside of the military need to possess "assault style" weapons. Eliminate guns that (or devices that make them) fire rapidly. Eliminate high capacity magazines. If you are a good guy with a gun and you need more than about 11 rounds to take down the bad guy with a gun, give it up. You are more likely to shoot your kid or your wife or your dog than the bad guy. Highly trained law enforcement personnel rarely hit what they fire at (hard to believe I know when some unarmed black guy seems to get shot by a cop every other day) so the idea that some random good guy civilian with a gun is to be our savior is laughable. Despite the fact there are 300,000,000 or more guns out there -- again most owned by good, law abiding citizens I'm told -- it hardly ever happens.
There are innumerable things that we can do to eliminate some or a lot of the gun violence in this country. I think the ammosexuals have had plenty of time to do things their way and it hasn't worked. Step aside and take your failure like mature men and women and give someone else a try. None of the things I advocate do anything to prevent sane, law abiding citizens from owning all sorts of weapons. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I just believe in a modern 21st century application of it, because, you know it IS the 21st century and things are absolutely nothing at all like they were in the 18th century.
This is demonstrably untrue. Canada has a lot of guns, by some estimates a gun for every 3rd person. While the US has many more guns -- some estimate a gun for EVERY person -- most households actually DON'T have a firearm inside. Canada does not have the gun violence the U.S. has. Australia and Germany have as many guns per capita as Canada has, and THEY don't have the gun violence the U.S. has.
To an extent I do agree that some gun control is just so much feel good nonsense. But that is partially because gun control laws are not enough. We need strict enforcement and we need to make it clear to law enforcement nationwide we EXPECT strict enforcement. We are not getting it.
We also need better laws, period. Commit a gun crime, every gun you are connected to gets confiscated and destroyed. And by connected to I'd go as far as saying any gun in your household, regardless of ownership. Gun owners claim they are 100% committed to safety and responsibility? Well if they know some jacked up kid might cost daddy all HIS guns too and they might do a better job of keeping their guns out of reach.
We need better educational and employment opportunities too. We need better mental health education in our schools. All of that takes funding. Ammosexuals seem to have no problem funding a military that is so bloated it would take 20 seasons of "My 600 Pound Life" to cover it all, but God forbid we pay for real, effective mental healthcare in this country.
Finally, no one outside of the military need to possess "assault style" weapons. Eliminate guns that (or devices that make them) fire rapidly. Eliminate high capacity magazines. If you are a good guy with a gun and you need more than about 11 rounds to take down the bad guy with a gun, give it up. You are more likely to shoot your kid or your wife or your dog than the bad guy. Highly trained law enforcement personnel rarely hit what they fire at (hard to believe I know when some unarmed black guy seems to get shot by a cop every other day) so the idea that some random good guy civilian with a gun is to be our savior is laughable. Despite the fact there are 300,000,000 or more guns out there -- again most owned by good, law abiding citizens I'm told -- it hardly ever happens.
There are innumerable things that we can do to eliminate some or a lot of the gun violence in this country. I think the ammosexuals have had plenty of time to do things their way and it hasn't worked. Step aside and take your failure like mature men and women and give someone else a try. None of the things I advocate do anything to prevent sane, law abiding citizens from owning all sorts of weapons. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I just believe in a modern 21st century application of it, because, you know it IS the 21st century and things are absolutely nothing at all like they were in the 18th century.
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
I had not read anything about that guy. I guess this is evidence in support of my theory?
I had not read anything about that guy. I guess this is evidence in support of my theory?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Should we confiscate and destroy someone’s car if they get a speeding ticket? I don’t really understand the encouragement from the left to take people’s property.
Australia and Canada have less than 10% the population we do. Not sure how either of those is a great comparison to our country.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
Gun control advocates: there's a major problem in this country with gun deaths; Gun freedom advocates: strict gun control is not possible; Gun control/freedom advocates: yes, it is/no its not; /discussion
The point is this.
Taking options off the table as 'not possible' has stopped all potential solutions in the past. We need to arrive at the ideal outcome for the American society...and from there, you find a way to make it happen.
Gun control advocates: there's a major problem in this country with gun deaths; Gun freedom advocates: strict gun control is not possible; Gun control/freedom advocates: yes, it is/no its not; /discussion
The point is this.
Taking options off the table as 'not possible' has stopped all potential solutions in the past. We need to arrive at the ideal outcome for the American society...and from there, you find a way to make it happen.
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
Why o why, can't gun advocates get past the car analogy?
Cars are an immeasurably critical part of the American productivity equation. Without any cars leaving their garages, I would expect the US' per capita income to drop by about 25%. Guns serve no tangibly positive part in American society. Without any guns leaving houses, I would expect deaths and crime to drop dramatically.
Why o why, can't gun advocates get past the car analogy?
Cars are an immeasurably critical part of the American productivity equation. Without any cars leaving their garages, I would expect the US' per capita income to drop by about 25%. Guns serve no tangibly positive part in American society. Without any guns leaving houses, I would expect deaths and crime to drop dramatically.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
But yet when "how about licensing and insurance just like cars" is thrown back at them, all of a sudden the car analogy is terrible to them.
Wrong. I’ve said that I’m okay with a licensing scheme. I think it should be something people of limited means can afford though. I’m not quite sure what gun owners would be insuring against. Insurance doesn’t change liability in any way.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
Correct. They want the car thing they need to go all the way. That means.
1. Gun VIN Number
2. License for Gun (plates, tabs) ( this means the government knows where all the guns are)
3. Insurance for Gun.
All in or all out.
Correct. They want the car thing they need to go all the way. That means.
1. Gun VIN Number
2. License for Gun (plates, tabs) ( this means the government knows where all the guns are)
3. Insurance for Gun.
All in or all out.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
Oh, no no no no. Marketplace sets price just like everything else.
Oh, no no no no. Marketplace sets price just like everything else.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!
Are we talkin about gun insurance here?
Like car ins, everyone has to buy gun insurance to cover liability if you kill on someone?
Fvcking awesome
Let’s get this done.
Are we talkin about gun insurance here?
Like car ins, everyone has to buy gun insurance to cover liability if you kill on someone?
Fvcking awesome
Let’s get this done.
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