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0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

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BassAle said:
Drew thinks they just don’t know how to balance their check book and that’s why someone else needs to manage their finances.
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Yeah, doctors always do mental health evaluations of people who can't balance a checkbook.
 
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There's this thing, this item, allowed by the Constitution. Some can handle the use of the item responsibly, with no ill effects to themselves or others. Others not so much, meaning they may end up killing themselves or others through horrible decisions involving (mis)use of this item. And an argument can be made that no one really needs this item; one can survive without it. An argument can be made that the item does more harm than good to society; other's disagree. And we could solve the problem by revoking an Amendment of the Constitution. But which Amendment: 2, or 21.
 
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aparch said:
Department of Education claims that "nearly 240 schools ... reported at least 1 incident involving a school-related shooting," during the 2015-2016 school year.

NPR calls 'Horsesh**' on them, only could confirm ELEVEN school incidents.
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Just think, we took guns to school every day during hunting season. Shot guns, single shot, pump, dbl barrel. Rifles, semi autos, bolt action. lever action.Brought a knife to school every day all school year.

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The Sicatoka said:
There's this thing, this item, allowed by the Constitution. Some can handle the use of the item responsibly, with no ill effects to themselves or others. Others not so much, meaning they may end up killing themselves or others through horrible decisions involving (mis)use of this item. And an argument can be made that no one really needs this item; one can survive without it. An argument can be made that the item does more harm than good to society; other's disagree. And we could solve the problem by revoking an Amendment of the Constitution. But which Amendment: 2, or 21.
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Your stupid alcohol comparison aside, the Supreme Court could just actually enforce that whole "well-regulated" clause of the 2nd for once. But no let's elect our racist grandpa to be president so that he can put more nutbars on the supreme court.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
There's this thing, this item, allowed by the Constitution. Some can handle the use of the item responsibly, with no ill effects to themselves or others. Others not so much, meaning they may end up killing themselves or others through horrible decisions involving (mis)use of this item. And an argument can be made that no one really needs this item; one can survive without it. An argument can be made that the item does more harm than good to society; other's disagree. And we could solve the problem by revoking an Amendment of the Constitution. But which Amendment: 2, or 21.
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Gotta love those false equivalences...
 
The Sicatoka said:
I could believe 240 incidents of a firearm (illegally) on school grounds.
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While 240 incidences of a firearm on campus would indeed be believable...
In 161 cases, schools or districts attested that no incident took place or couldn't confirm one. In at least four cases, [NPR] found, something did happen, but it didn't meet the government's parameters for a shooting.
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It sounds like only four reported instances were confirmed to be your un-fired weapon on school grounds.

Why would the Education Department make up such easily disproved lies? [Rhetorical, I know].
 
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*sigh* whatever happened to just stating facts?
 
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OK, here's a fact: The Jacksonville dude, just like the Aurora dude, on dangerous psych drugs. https://www.infowars.com/revealed-jacksonville-shooter-ssri-drugs-co-dependent-mom/

And it's not like this sort of thing is an isolated incident, either. I remember being not too happy at a point in college, and was actually suggested some of these drugs by a friend. I said no, preferring my own mind over zombie-like blocks. After seeing what's been happening, I'm glad I said no.
 
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aparch said:
While 240 incidences of a firearm on campus would indeed be believable...
It sounds like only four reported instances were confirmed to be your un-fired weapon on school grounds.

Why would the Education Department make up such easily disproved lies? [Rhetorical, I know].
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Did you ever think that there might be an agenda behind this? Notice how the Madden event got overshadowed quickly, while events like Parkland and Sandy Hook are still to this day in prominence?
 
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walrus said:
Just think, we took guns to school every day during hunting season. Shot guns, single shot, pump, dbl barrel. Rifles, semi autos, bolt action. lever action.Brought a knife to school every day all school year.

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And walked uphill both ways during a blizzard, with no shoes. While wearing an onion on your belt.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Your stupid alcohol comparison aside, the Supreme Court could just actually enforce that whole "well-regulated" clause of the 2nd for once. But no let's elect our racist grandpa to be president so that he can put more nutbars on the supreme court.
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Americans are dying.

You may wish to dismiss it as "stupid" or "false equivalency" but I already made the case that booze is killing Americans at an alarming rate, just as this thread claims guns are, at rates like firearms. And booze has a lobby giving out as much graft as guns. (link previously given)

Every day, 29 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. As someone said, facts, and a source even. How many more Americans are dying a self-inflicted death each day from alcohol not involving a car.

The courts and legislatures are taking on drunk driving, it's stigmatized, the bars are being held to account, it's PSA'd, we're trying, yet, still, 29 per day. Is it time for an outright ban (see Amendment 18).


And given the dangers of smoking and second hand smoke, why not completely ban that also. That's killing Americans, directly and indirectly, something with questionable benefits to society, also. As a matter of fact, go back and read this not thinking guns, or booze, but cigarettes (obviously omitting Constitutional references).



After I get your guns, your booze, and your smokes, whatever shall I come for next.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Americans are dying.

You may wish to dismiss it as "false equivalency" but I already made the case that booze is killing Americans at an alarming rate, just as this thread claims guns are. And booze has a lobby giving out as much graft as guns. (link previously given)

Every day, 29 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. As someone said, facts, and a source even.

The courts and legislatures are taking on drunk driving, we're trying, yet, still, 29 per day. Is it time for an outright ban.


And given the dangers of smoking and second hand smoke, why not completely ban that also. That's killing Americans, directly and indirectly, questionable benefits to society, also. As a matter of fact, go back and read this not thinking guns, or booze, but cigarettes (obviously stopping short of the last sentence).
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And yet, business preference is given to the producers. Take a look at the relaxed farm brewing permit in NYS, when compared to a micro-brewery. Look at all the advertising seen pretty much everywhere. Compare this to the destruction of cigarette advertisements, and its availability, the product of which seems just as dangerous when you compare the facts. If both truly are vices, why the preference?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Americans are dying.

You may wish to dismiss it as "stupid" or "false equivalency" but I already made the case that booze is killing Americans at an alarming rate, just as this thread claims guns are, at rates like firearms. And booze has a lobby giving out as much graft as guns. (link previously given)

Every day, 29 people in the United States die in motor vehicle crashes that involve an alcohol-impaired driver. As someone said, facts, and a source even.

The courts and legislatures are taking on drunk driving, it's stigmatized, the bars are being held to account, it's PSA'd, we're trying, yet, still, 29 per day. Is it time for an outright ban.


And given the dangers of smoking and second hand smoke, why not completely ban that also. That's killing Americans, directly and indirectly, questionable benefits to society, also. As a matter of fact, go back and read this not thinking guns, or booze, but cigarettes (obviously omitting Constitutional references).



After I get your guns, your booze, and your smokes, whatever shall I come for next.
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Where the **** are my grenades?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Where the **** are my grenades?
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What the **** happened to responsibility?

As usual, anti-freedom activists using freedom to create some outlandish situation and then try to make the ends justify the means and ban it, saying people can't control themselves.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
God helps those who help themselves. You have a garage, and an internet connection, and a little moxie, don't you?
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Oh, no. I believe in law and order. My grenades should be as legal as those AK47's Semi-Auto Military style guns with a bump stock.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Oh, no. I believe in law and order. My grenades should be as legal as those AK47's Semi-Auto Military style guns with a bump stock.
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Use it responsibly, respect the freedoms bestowed upon you to others the same, and I have no issue with that. If that's how you want to spend your resources...
 
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