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What the Fark 7: They're Eating the Dogs!

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Never heard of this guy, but his idea of "looksmaxxing" apparently includes advocating methamphetamine and anabolic steroid abuse. :rolleyes:


No worries, at this rate he'll be dead and forgotten by 30.
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And smashing your facial bones with a hammer so they "grow back stronger." Based on vigorous peer reviewed studies, I am sure.

Apparently he's a spoiled boy who made waves with what you mentioned plus adjacent dimwitted misogyny similar to the Tate Boys.

We must convince these folks dosing cyanide every day will make them forever young.
 
Imagine breaking the 2 hour barrier and still finishing second. The new adidas Pro Evo 3 have to be insane to break the 2 hour mark twice and to set the new women's only WR.
 
I learned an interesting thing tonight.

You know how in Latin you are allowed to move the verb to the end for poetic or aesthetic reasons? So you wind up with "Achilles to the store fast runs"? In Ancient Greek there's something called the "movable nu." It's the same thing, but for a letter. If you don't like the way a word looks when you write it out because there are two consonants next to each other and one of them is nu (ν) you're allowed to pick it up and move it to the end! The word means the same and is pronounced the same, it's just prettier.

That's a helluva way to spell things.
 
Would a Competitive Combat Sports artist (Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, Kung Fu, Karate) be effective in a street fight or would they get their ass handed to them?

I'm not arguing it is bullshit or they are not athletes. I know they are incredibly skilled and strong athletes. I am asking whether the rules their skills rely on make those skills irrelevant IRL. Will endurance, tactics, and self-discipline matter against somebody who is just aiming to beat you unconscious within a few seconds?

The one thing I can see mattering is the speed and endurance would allow them to run away faster and longer. Which is ideal. Nobody wins a fight.
 
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Kepler said:
Would a Competitive Combat Sports artist (Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, Kung Fu, Karate) be effective in a street fight or would they get their ass handed to them?

I'm not arguing it is bullshit or they are not athletes. I know they are incredibly skilled and strong athletes. I am asking whether the rules their skills rely on make those skills irrelevant IRL. Will endurance, tactics, and self-discipline matter against somebody who is just aiming to beat you unconscious within a few seconds?

The one thing I can see mattering is the speed and endurance would allow them to run away faster and longer. Which is ideal. Nobody wins a fight.
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MMA guys vs random tough guy? Most likely, the pro MMA guy has a huge advantage, provided its not a Middleweight v Super Heavyweight type matchup.

Say what you want, but training to avoid strikes and then instantly countering is something a drunk is likely not going to be able to counter. Also consider that those guys are very quick for their size and are overall in good shape, it's a fairly simple no-contest most times.

Now countering weapons is something that falls more into traditional Asian Martial Arts over what MMA evolved into. So that aspect greatly changes things.
 
RaceBoarder said:
MMA guys vs random tough guy? Most likely, the pro MMA guy has a huge advantage, provided its not a Middleweight v Super Heavyweight type matchup.

Say what you want, but training to avoid strikes and then instantly countering is something a drunk is likely not going to be able to counter. Also consider that those guys are very quick for their size and are overall in good shape, it's a fairly simple no-contest most times.

Now countering weapons is something that falls more into traditional Asian Martial Arts over what MMA evolved into. So that aspect greatly changes things.
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You can actually see it in amateur MMA bouts. More often than not the people who are well trained will demolish the random tough guy.
 
Jimjamesak said:
You can actually see it in amateur MMA bouts. More often than not the people who are well trained will demolish the random tough guy.
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In VA some place within driving distance of my job supposedly had an "open mic night" with MMA scouts, and it was brutal. I have no idea how you get licensed for Fight Club but apparently it was entirely legal and above board.
 
Kepler said:
In VA some place within driving distance of my job supposedly had an "open mic night" with MMA scouts, and it was brutal. I have no idea how you get licensed for Fight Club but apparently it was entirely legal and above board.
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Alaska has had various amateur MMA orgs for decades. As long as you can get cleared by the athletic commission you're fine.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Say what you want, but training to avoid strikes and then instantly countering is something a drunk is likely not going to be able to counter.
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When they train are they training against prescribed, rule-bound strikes or is it anything goes?

I'm assuming no weapons. Nobody can beat Indiana Jones vs the sword dude.

Fun fact: the sword dude trained forever for that scene which was supposed to be a long, highly complex swordfight. Ford was sick as a dog, so Spielberg told him just shoot him, and perfection was born.
 
Kepler said:
When they train are they training against prescribed, rule-bound strikes or is it anything goes?

I'm assuming no weapons. Nobody can beat Indiana Jones vs the sword dude.

Fun fact: the sword dude trained forever for that scene which was supposed to be a long, highly complex swordfight. Ford was sick as a dog, so Spielberg told him just shoot him, and perfection was born.
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Depends on what they train. Most of the grapple based martial arts, like judo and BJJ, are training against anything goes strikes but specific MMA training is likely against legal strikes though the defense against wrestling style takedowns probably covers a lot. That said, there's not very many strikes that are illegal in MMA, rabbit punching and kicks to a grounded opponent being the notable ones.

Rules for reference.
 
Kepler said:
When they train are they training against prescribed, rule-bound strikes or is it anything goes?

I'm assuming no weapons. Nobody can beat Indiana Jones vs the sword dude.

Fun fact: the sword dude trained forever for that scene which was supposed to be a long, highly complex swordfight. Ford was sick as a dog, so Spielberg told him just shoot him, and perfection was born.
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As JJ said, most of your "conventional" fight tactics are already part of MMA. Basically what you see when you are facing towards your opponent is the same stuff you'll see in a bar fight.

The stuff you are talking about is stuff that comes at someone blind, like a rabbit punch from behind. That's not really defensible in any kind of fight, proper or bar. I guess I would concede a lack of repercussions for doing that in a bar fight. But that's also how you get bystanders jumping in because it's not a fair fight at that point.
 
RaceBoarder said:
As JJ said, most of your "conventional" fight tactics are already part of MMA. Basically what you see when you are facing towards your opponent is the same stuff you'll see in a bar fight.

The stuff you are talking about is stuff that comes at someone blind, like a rabbit punch from behind. That's not really defensible in any kind of fight, proper or bar. I guess I would concede a lack of repercussions for doing that in a bar fight. But that's also how you get bystanders jumping in because it's not a fair fight at that point.
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Honestly, most “tough guys” can’t handle even basic kickboxing techniques. One swift kick to the legs would crumble most.
 
Has anyone ever seen a true fair fight in the wild?

I have seen enough bar fights to seriously reevaluate my younger life choices. Every one of them without question was a surprise attack and over virtually instantly. Either the initial blow ended the fight or the target was big enough and subsequently angry enough to end it on the counter attack. I've never seen a fight in the wild that lasted over 10 seconds.

I am excluding the "hold my earrings" fights I witnessed in high school, which were the opposite, and lasted long minutes until a large enough teacher broke them up physically. Unless you count hair pulling and nail scratches I never saw a girl land a blow in those fights despite all combatants being whirling dervishes of fury.
 
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