Great point Russell. HWS and Skidmore are in the Liberty league which is a great D3 league for all sports. But RPI, RIT, Clarkson and SLU and Union all are D1 hockey, so what would be an awesome D3 hockey league has no remaining critical mass for the remaining D3 teams So HWS hockey teams were looking for a new league and the SUNYAC is geographically desirable and has a great hockey tradition, so we were happy to accept the invitation.. Hobart has absolutely no interest in going D! for hockey, we did that in lacrosse and we are barely over .500 since moving up because we have to compete with other very strong D1 programs in the A10. Frankly, I wish we never moved up to D1 , because programs like Johns Hopkins and Syracuse have real NIL programs and very significant institutional support. I remember the old days when Cortland lacrosse was a big rival in the D3 days and we would beat them in some great Championship match ups in lacrosse and the Cortland fans said Hobart must be paying players with excessive "merit" scholarships . Funny, now the SUNTAC is saying the hockey program is doing the same thing,