US Foreign Policy 4.0: making the world safe to flee to if the MAGAts win here

[ScoobyDoo]

The only good thing I can think of that Dump has done: he might be killing AIPAC.

That would certainly be a positive result. While the US electing Trump is worse, Israel keeping Bibi in power is next worst.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Interesting that now is when the Pat Buchanan wing (policy: slightly crunchy, paleocon antisemitism) of the party fully re-emerges. Trump has played them like a fiddle for 10 years with his racist, nativist bullhorning, but I guess his wag the dog finally drew the line in the sand.

 

[Kepler]

Interesting that now is when the Pat Buchanan wing (policy: slightly crunchy, paleocon antisemitism) of the party fully re-emerges. Trump has played them like a fiddle for 10 years with his racist, nativist bullhorning, but I guess his wag the dog finally drew the line in the sand.

I have a Buchananite friend (he's an honest anti-semite, he hates EVERYBODY from the region) who hasn't voted D since 1992. You will not find a more anti-Dump person. He hates MAGA.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I have a Buchananite friend (he's an honest anti-semite, he hates EVERYBODY from the region) who hasn't voted D since 1992. You will not find a more anti-Dump person. He hates MAGA.

I assume this is the only reason why he's still a friend.

My mom (dedicated Irish Catholic, the last of her generation) was a long-time Pat fan (going back to at least the start of the MacLaughlin Group days) and wanted to vote for him in 2000. Many times, I have considered asking her if she knows of Pat's...*ahem*...colorful statements over the years, but I have decided it's for the best that I remain blissfully unaware.

Her voting record?

Carter
John B. Anderson
Mondale
Dukakis
Bush the Elder
Dole
Gore
Bush the Dumber
Obama
Obama
Hillary
Biden
Harris

 

[French Rage]

Interesting that now is when the Pat Buchanan wing (policy: slightly crunchy, paleocon antisemitism) of the party fully re-emerges. Trump has played them like a fiddle for 10 years with his racist, nativist bullhorning, but I guess his wag the dog finally drew the line in the sand.

Well they were led along by the neo-cons for 15 years and the MAGAs for going on 10 now, but did they ever actually stop voting for the party?

 

[Kepler]

I assume this is the only reason why he's still a friend.

He's my best friend from HS and he is also my Memento Mori. He is my living reminder intellect does not protect you against cognitive bias. Being an insurance lawyer in NYC for 25 years means he constantly see immigrants running civil scams and/or criminal conspiracies. He's entirely intellectually cognizant this is wildly unrepresentative sampling. But he's also human and so, little by little, it's turned him into a xenophobe.

If it happened to him it could happen to me or you or anybody else. It's a damn good lesson.

 

[Kepler]

Well they were led along by the neo-cons for 15 years and the MAGAs for going on 10 now, but did they ever actually stop voting for the party?

Dems assuming Republicans voters are this close to waking up is like cold fusion.

They're never going to wake up. Never ever ever ever ever. Anybody still with those guys is hopeless. Give them up and save the people worth saving.