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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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Another fun stat.

Percentage of popular vote
victorious Democratic nominee
since 1900:
Code: 
1912   41.8   Wilson
1916   52.2   Wilson
1932   57.4   Roosevelt
1936   60.8   Roosevelt
1940   54.7   Roosevelt
1944   53.4   Roosevelt
1948   49.6   Truman
1960   49.7   Kennedy
1964   61.1   Johnson
1976   50.1   Carter
1992   43.0   Clinton
1996   49.2   Clinton
2008   52.9   Obama
2012   51.1   Obama

Biden should easily have the largest figure since Carter. He may have the largest since LBJ. Note that each case is a cautionary tale.
 
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Handyman said:
You are not sure what hyping the models for a disease are when one candidate (him) is following proper protocols and the other not only flouts them but got himself and half his staff sick? Hmmm...I am just gonna go ahead and disagree with you on that one. I would remind everyone, every day what is at stake. One side listens to experts (who are coming up with these models) and the other thinks he can inject bleach into his system and kill COVID. The facts need to rule the day even if the numbers arent very inspiring. (or are perhaps a bit inflated since they are models)

Got to keep them Dems motivated since they are probably days away from Politico calling them complacent again ;-)
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You're missing my point. I am not talking Covid itself, the impact it's already had, that it will continue to have and how POTUS and everyone surrounding him are complicit in the results. I am referring to predicting another 200k dead by EOY.

The current 7-day trendline for deaths puts us with another 75k dead or so. Yes as the weather cools it will exacerbate the results, but one of the number of "complaints" I see from the orcs (especially those in MN) are that "Democrats" predicted xxx # of deaths and the actual results have all along the way been much fewer.

My point is the results have been devastating enough without hyperbole. 210k dead so far is astounding, maddening, exasperating, befuddling, pick your favorite adjective. And another 70k dead by EOY in and of itself is all the same and should be enough to wake anyone up. Trump's handling of the crisis every step of the way has been nothing short of criminal and the past few days have been actually worse were that even possible.

Because when we are nowhere close to being on track for additional 200k dead by EOY as the end of October approaches that is what the idiots will focus upon. Not the actual damning results, not the actual mishandling, not the actual eff ups of untold proportions - but rather, "YOU SAID BLAH BLAH AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!". The reality of the situation requires no embellishment - hammer the F**K out of them on the truth and it will be enough.
 
Kepler said:
Another fun stat.

Percentage of popular vote
victorious Democratic nominee
since 1900:
Code: 
1912 41.8 Wilson
1916 52.2 Wilson
1932 57.4 Roosevelt
1936 60.8 Roosevelt
1940 54.7 Roosevelt
1944 53.4 Roosevelt
1948 49.6 Truman
1960 49.7 Kennedy
1964 61.1 Johnson
1976 50.1 Carter
1992 43.0 Clinton
1996 49.2 Clinton
2008 52.9 Obama
2012 51.1 Obama

Biden should easily have the largest figure since Carter. He may have the largest since LBJ. Note that each case is a cautionary tale.
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Ha! It’s funny, I was just looking this up the other day. Was shocked at the MOV presidents used to enjoy regularly.
 
Slap Shot said:
You're missing my point. I am not talking Covid itself, the impact it's already had, that it will continue to have and how POTUS and everyone surrounding him are complicit in the results. I am referring to predicting another 200k dead by EOY.

The current 7-day trendline for deaths puts us with another 75k dead or so. Yes as the weather cools it will exacerbate the results, but one of the number of "complaints" I see from the orcs (especially those in MN) are that "Democrats" predicted xxx # of deaths and the actual results have all along the way been much fewer.

My point is the results have been devastating enough without hyperbole. 210k dead so far is astounding, maddening, exasperating, befuddling, pick your favorite adjective. And another 70k dead by EOY in and of itself is all the same and should be enough to wake anyone up. Trump's handling of the crisis every step of the way has been nothing short of criminal and the past few days have been actually worse were that even possible.

Because when we are nowhere close to being on track for additional 200k dead by EOY as the end of October approaches that is what the idiots will focus upon. Not the actual ****ing results, not the actual mishandling, not the actual eff ups of untold proportions - but rather, "YOU SAID BLAH BLAH AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!". The reality of the situation requires no embellishment - hammer the ****** out of them on the truth and it will be enough.
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Wait, you’re telling me the model isn’t just
=RAND(0 , 5,000)*365
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Ha! It’s funny, I was just looking this up the other day. Was shocked at the MOV presidents used to enjoy regularly.
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From a CNN article:

In reality, most presidential elections are close. In fact, half of all elections have come down to a change in 75,000 votes or less scattered across the country; 40% of elections have come down to a change in 30,000 votes or less; and one-in-five elections have come down to a change in just 10,000 votes or less. Consider that in any election, around 4% of voters make their mind up the day of the election and one can see how many presidential outcomes could have turned out quite differently.

Close elections are the rule, not the exception.

Close observers of presidential elections recognize that there have been many cases where a tie was narrowly averted. Based on election data, we estimate that the US has been within a hairbreadth of an Electoral College tie in over 20% of the last 18 presidential elections.

From a line in one of the episodes from the most recent version of The Twilight Zone: "A democracy is where half the people don't get what they want."
 
Lately I've been trying to piece together how one might do a hard 21st century reboot on the Republican Party platform after the Trumpian nightmare is over, but given the typical Republican constituent it's...difficult to say the least.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Lately I've been trying to piece together how one might do a hard 21st century reboot on the Republican Party platform after the Trumpian nightmare is over, but given the typical Republican constituent it's...difficult to say the least.
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If they wanted to, they can gain a good footing by pushing forward an agenda around the Environment. They would have to be VERY careful in how they frame things however because Cleetus in MS/TX/WY has been trained to hate on science. But he is also out hunting/fishing/living off the land.

It would be a reeducation process, but if it's centered around that, I think it's feasible....
 
Handyman said:
More likely this proves the CNN poll Biden +16 from the other day is spot on but yeah that is not a good sign. Wonder if that was part of the trigger last night...
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I like how many of the comments in various places don't trust Rasmussen and suspect them of doing a landslide result now so they can do a more accurate closer one later on and then drive the storyline of Trump tightening the race.
 
They're in bed with polluting industries, they can't go environment.

To be honest they have nowhere to go. I expect they will go hard, hardcore fiscal responsibility. It's a good ruse since they can drive down taxes (the Republican Santa Claus) which then bankrupts all social programs, education, and environmental protection. And their stooges can harrumpf about debt (while expanding military and law enforcement spending of course).

They will be praying for a major terrorist attack during the Biden administration so they can bleat about national security and being Tough. Their gorillas love that stuff, and frightened voters make bad choices.
 
Kepler said:
They're in bed with polluting industries, they can't go environment.

To be honest they have nowhere to go. I expect they will go hard, hardcore fiscal responsibility. It's a good ruse since they can drive down taxes (the Republican Santa Claus) which then bankrupts all social programs, education, and environmental protection. And their stooges can harrumpf about debt (while expanding military and law enforcement spending of course).

They will be praying for a major terrorist attack during the Biden administration so they can bleat about national security and being Tough. Their gorillas love that stuff, and frightened voters make bad choices.
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What makes you think any movement at all is needed? Goldman Sachs is publicly rooting for a full Dem sweep in November. That tells you all you need to know.
 
French Rage said:
I like how many of the comments in various places don't trust Rasmussen and suspect them of doing a landslide result now so they can do a more accurate closer one later on and then drive the storyline of Trump tightening the race.
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My favorite reason for not believing polls is “I’ve never been asked to do a poll.” It is the ultimate example in choosing to believe anecdotal stories over statistics and data.
 
French Rage said:
I like how many of the comments in various places don't trust Rasmussen and suspect them of doing a landslide result now so they can do a more accurate closer one later on and then drive the storyline of Trump tightening the race.
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They do tend to try that move. And it fits with the fact that Trump was +1 like a month ago. They are scaring the Trumpers into voting and trying to get Dems to take it easy and relax. Problem is Dems dont care what Rass has to say ;-)

As for the GOP platform...their best bet would be to go libertarian on social issues and go back to a "Small Government" party. Take the Jesus out of the Party Platform. The Evangelicals wont leave because they aint got nowhere else to go so you just dodge the question on Gay Rights or whatever by saying "the government is not here to define marriage" and be done with it. (which is the position most Cons I know have as their way of defending their Pro Gay Rights views) Keep the crazies as far away from the public eye as possible too. Stop forcing the issue on things like Voters Rights.

They wont do any of that though. Too much money in Trumplandia and it is so much easier to not worry about nuance and such and just say whatever is in your head at that moment. My guess is in 4 years whoever they run will be a Qtard. The GOP wont change until they absolutely have to so if that clown loses THEN they might actually adapt to avoid death.
 
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