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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

Spartanforlife4 said:
There’s a few states like that. PA is +5 senate, -1 Pres. NC is a dumpster fire for the GOP in the gubernatorial so it doesn’t surprise me there’s some difference but it’s +13 to -1 for pres.
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It doesn't make sense that the margins would be that wide. Yes there's going to be split ticket weirdos but not at these levels.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
As I’ve seen mentioned elsewhere, how is it that in the presidential polling Dump is leading in Arizona but Gallego is up in Senate race polling by 7+ points?
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Until it actually happens, I'm coming to expect some Americans that simply won't ever vote for a woman to be Commander in Chief. Senator or Governor, sure. They'd rather have a criminally mental deficient because he has a tiny mushroom to "command" the army and thousands of nuclear weapons.
 
Elmo is suppressing anti trump stories and comments. Remember when the Right Wing was all up in arms about Twitter (not) doing that with Biden? I'm sure Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss are on the case :rolleyes::confused:
 
Handyman said:
I can buy it in 1 state but not in as many as the polls think will happen. We will see though.
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It’s another reason why a lot of the reporting around the election doesn’t seem right. Like i understand it’s certainly possible I’m missing things and not seeing some things, but it really doesn’t seem as close as the media and polling are saying things are.
 
Jimjamesak said:
It’s another reason why a lot of the reporting around the election doesn’t seem right. Like i understand it’s certainly possible I’m missing things and not seeing some things, but it really doesn’t seem as close as the media and polling are saying things are.
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Non MSM agrees with us...especially stats people. They say it is not as close as we think but the 2016 PTSD plus being so off in 2022 is causing a lot of hedging. Sometimes you can even tell MSM didn't believe what they are saying.

Mark Kelly was asked about split tickets in an interview i watched and he mostly dismissed it. The theory seems to be that for many Arizonans voting on the abortion ballot and against Lake will satisfy the progressive itch. Like all the youth and women and moderates and non Trump GOPers will just think that is enough. That seems off. I buy that maybe in North Carolina (no abortion ballot but Gubernatorial Election) than I do Arizona or Pennsylvania.
 
Handyman said:
Non MSM agrees with us...especially stats people. They say it is not as close as we think but the 2016 PTSD plus being so off in 2022 is causing a lot of hedging. Sometimes you can even tell MSM didn't believe what they are saying.

Mark Kelly was asked about split tickets in an interview i watched and he mostly dismissed it. The theory seems to be that for many Arizonans voting on the abortion ballot and against Lake will satisfy the progressive itch. Like all the youth and women and moderates and non Trump GOPers will just think that is enough. That seems off. I buy that maybe in North Carolina (no abortion ballot but Gubernatorial Election) than I do Arizona or Pennsylvania.
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I think the one thing the media and polling misses is the quiet Harris voter. I can speak from experience as I would probably be in that class.

When you live somewhere not necessarily a red area but even somewhere where it’s purplish, maybe 5 point gap either direction, a lot of people know who their neighbors are. I’m not going to put a Harris/Walz sign in my window because it just invites trouble, especially since there’s documented cases of Democratic candidates having their signs being vandalized, of people being threatened and harassed. And with that, I’m not going to answer a phone call or a survey where I would need state my intentions. I don’t trust that this information wouldn’t be used against me.

It’s almost a reverse of 2016 where people weren’t going to admit that they were going to vote for Dump. Except it’s a sentiment rooted in a very realistic fear and not just shame.
 
rufus said:
Donnie called Kamala the N word yet? Cause you know it's coming.
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He came close at a rally a couple nights ago with "She's a dumb b-erson!" You know he's calling her the B word in private and his brain is jello so it's only a matter of time.
 
Kepler said:
The Nazis are not hiding it anymore. You all be very careful out there.
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I had to go visit a non profit last week that was located in a church. This was part of my work as a city commissioner.

once I realized I was headed to a church, I made sure to put on my Harris walz pin

felt safe in a church but yeah I’d be careful in a lot of places
 
Russell Jaslow said:
My polling place is in a church.
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I think that is really common, but I believe most if not all states ban any items supporting a candidate while voting so in that case you would not be able to

I just wanted the people there to squirm a bit. It’s a bit telling when four homes that face your church have HUGE Harris banners hanging prominently - assuming it’s not a liberal run church
 
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