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UNH Hockey 2023 Off Season Thread Turn and Face the Strange

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Scott said:
There you have it folks.

At this point, don't expect AD Rich to be able offer much to attract new coaches if the state even refuses to appropriate funds for infrastructure improvements.
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You misunderstand which is understandable because of the way the legislative process works and/or the way Landrigan tweets. A Representative proposed moving the Whitt money to in-state tuition. Not an awful idea. The proposal was easily rejected. The remaining $6 million from the Governor’s originally proposed $8 million is still allocated to the Whitt. Budget still has to move through the Senate which is historically more sympathetic to the U.
 
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Darius said:
From the Highest Paid Coaches thread: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...=0&single=true

I am not sure $25k will make a difference.
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Poor wording on my part. I did not mean +25k from Souza money. I mean when they land on a candidate don’t let a relatively small figure be the difference between the right candidate and solidifying UNH Hockey in the basement. Also, don’t forget Umile was in the 400,000 range so that’s a pretty good starting point for the right candidate instead of dumpster diving to save a few pennies
 
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deltabravo62 said:
Poor wording on my part. I did not mean +25k from Souza money. I mean when they land on a candidate don’t let a relatively small figure be the difference between the right candidate and solidifying UNH Hockey in the basement. Also, don’t forget Umile was in the 400,000 range so that’s a pretty good starting point for the right candidate instead of dumpster diving to save a few pennies
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I think that Dick was only in the $400k range for a couple of years when he was the highest paid state employee by taking his deferred bonus money that accompanied his lifetime contract for not defecting to UMass-Flagship, and then reverted back to the $300k range, which still placed him only slightly behind the UNH President’s salary.
 
deltabravo62 said:
Poor wording on my part. I did not mean +25k from Souza money. I mean when they land on a candidate don’t let a relatively small figure be the difference between the right candidate and solidifying UNH Hockey in the basement. Also, don’t forget Umile was in the 400,000 range so that’s a pretty good starting point for the right candidate instead of dumpster diving to save a few pennies
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Correctamundo. Amazing what a difference putting 6,000+ fans in the seats for every home game can make on the bottom line. Plus, the job does have some perks that competing pro level jobs don't have, especially on patience and longevity in the position if you can do a passable job and not throw up on yourself (as unfortunately MS7 has). The debacle that the 2023 portal is slowly but surely becoming should be the final nail in the coffin for Souza's job, but even so he's gotten eight (8) years of patience and understanding from the U. If he was churning out results like this in a pro organization, he'd have long ago been cashiered, or at best banished to a scouting job in Nunavut or PEI.

The search for a replacement should already be underway, regardless of whether or not MS7 returns next season.

There's no excuse to wait for the *possibility* (lol) that Groundhog Day 2024 will look any differently ...
 
I would take older player defensive system hockey ala Bazin IF you can tell me it would look like the Bobcats at some point... Man they play defensive hockey clogging the neutral zone BUT at an up tempo pace.
 
Chuck Murray said:
Correctamundo. Amazing what a difference putting 6,000+ fans in the seats for every home game can make on the bottom line. Plus, the job does have some perks that competing pro level jobs don't have, especially on patience and longevity in the position if you can do a passable job and not throw up on yourself (as unfortunately MS7 has). The debacle that the 2023 portal is slowly but surely becoming should be the final nail in the coffin for Souza's job, but even so he's gotten eight (8) years of patience and understanding from the U. If he was churning out results like this in a pro organization, he'd have long ago been cashiered, or at best banished to a scouting job in Nunavut or PEI.

The search for a replacement should already be underway, regardless of whether or not MS7 returns next season.

There's no excuse to wait for the *possibility* (lol) that Groundhog Day 2024 will look any differently ...
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Scouting job in Nunavut? How about Nunavik, where Joey Juneau (who?) spent 11 years (2006-2017) coaching youth hockey as part of a crime prevention program in 14 Inuit villages? Besides learning to speak English, Juneau earned B.S. and M.S. degrees in aeronautical engineering and scored 69 goals and 213 points in four years at RPI, then played 13 seasons in the NHL scoring 156 goals and 572 points in 828 games. Juneau was likely too cerebral for his three seasons in the Bruins locker room before moving on to the Caps, Sabres, Senators, Coyotes, and Canadians.
 
As for paying coaches... Hmmm Ben Barr is making less then MS7... Guy has track record at winning programs BUT didn't have the pizon connections... Year 2 for Barr 7th in hockey east...

​​​​​​Watcher in 8 years has MS7 ever made it to 7th?
 
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As for paying coaches... Hmmm Ben Barr is making less then MS7... Guy has track record at winning programs BUT didn't have the pizon connections... Year 2 for Barr 7th in hockey east...

​​​​​​Watcher in 8 years has MS7 ever made it to 7th?
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Nope. Best was 8th in 2019/20, MS7’s first year as HC. Following year was MS7’s only 0.500 season, and 9th.
 
JB said:
As for paying coaches... Hmmm Ben Barr is making less then MS7... Guy has track record at winning programs BUT didn't have the pizon connections... Year 2 for Barr 7th in hockey east...

​​​​​​Watcher in 8 years has MS7 ever made it to 7th?
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Never overestimate what an assistant coach looking for his first head coaching job will take to satiate the hunger to lead a program. That will probably have to be UNH's route IF you believe the budget constrictions regularly bounced around on here are indeed valid. Which may sound daunting ... but if you look back at history, UNH hasn't hired a coach with D-1 HC experience since the days before Charlie Holt. And guys like Holt and Umile (and likely Kullen, but for fate) proved to be more than capable of running a successful D-1 program.

If AD Rich is running into headwinds trying to hire a Men's Hoops HC within a certain budget, my guess is she's been fishing in the "experienced D-1 HC" pond, so far anyway. Herrion was recruited from that "pond" himself, even if he was serving as an assistant (briefly) at the time he was hired by UNH.

Pizon ... lol. Somewhere out on Bow Lake, UNH's fave paisan is chuckling at us rubes and our dopey ways ... ;-)
 
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Scouting job in Nunavut? How about Nunavik, where Joey Juneau (who?) spent 11 years (2006-2017) coaching youth hockey as part of a crime prevention program in 14 Inuit villages? Besides learning to speak English, Juneau earned B.S. and M.S. degrees in aeronautical engineering and scored 69 goals and 213 points in four years at RPI, then played 13 seasons in the NHL scoring 156 goals and 572 points in 828 games. Juneau was likely too cerebral for his three seasons in the Bruins locker room before moving on to the Caps, Sabres, Senators, Coyotes, and Canadians.
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Nice piece about a talented and largely forgotten D-1 star who made an impact in The Show a generation or so ago.

As you know Snives, Nunavik and Nunavat are northern Canadian territorial neighbors. Nunavat is way larger area-wise but even less populated than its northern Quebecois neighbor to the east. The point was, if that's you're scouting assignment, then you are probably not highly thought of by your organization. Small sparse Inuit communities spread out over miles and endless miles of glaciers, etc. Land of the almighty Polar Bear!!!

Nunavut can claim Jordin Tootoo ... Nunavik can claim Joe Juneau ... in comparison, PEI is bursting at the seams with NHL talent, including former Dead Wing alums Gerard Gallant, Errol Thompson and John Chabot, and a few dozen more over the years.

How many avowed pacifists have played in the NHL? You'd be shocked - I know I was - when reading this item ...

Top 10 Mennonite Players in NHL History (thehockeywriters.com)
 
Who you guys got for the NC? I'm thinking a close one...I'd love to see QU win as Rand has family in my town but man, Minny is good. HR's thinking the Gophers squeak it out
in OT..Only 6 months to opening weekend, ha!

Speaking of next season, C-H-C reports that Harrison Blaisdell will return for a 5th year...
 
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HockeyRef said:
Also...UNH has hired a bball coach:

UNH Director of Athletics Allison Rich announced the hiring of Nathan Davis as the 21st head coach of
@UNHMBB
. Coach Davis will hold an introductory press conference at 1 p.m. today. Story http://bit.ly/3UldUOc Press Conference http://bit.ly/3nYh8uz
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I hope for the best, BUT.....

You fired the head coach of a team that was 230th in college basketbll RPI.

Then reduced the salary.

Then hired a search firm.

Then set up shop in a Starbucks in the Houston Hilton last weekend.

And ultimately hired the recently fired coach of the team that had the 320th RPI in college basketball.

Well, at least you saved the school a few bucks in the process.
 
Davis inherited a very good situation at Bucknell, but the last three-plus seasons were awful for a historically very good Bison program. It's an interesting hire, that I could see going either way - he's had some real success at multiple levels and stops, but he was not good recently at a Bucknell program that MUST be far more supported (with a far better track record) than UNH has every been or will be...
 
Felger said:
I hope for the best, BUT.....

You fired the head coach of a team that was 230th in college basketbll RPI.

Then reduced the salary.

Then hired a search firm.

Then set up shop in a Starbucks in the Houston Hilton last weekend.

And ultimately hired the recently fired coach of the team that had the 320th RPI in college basketball.

Well, at least you saved the school a few bucks in the process.
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You were expecting Bobby Knight (who, I hope, is doing better)....Whats the salary decrease? I don't see a problem with the approach for this hire. Seems typical of
what you'd see or not?
 
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