College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

[unofan]

Story County has possibly the highest infection rate in the country right now. Iowa as a whole has the highest rate of any state in the country. ISU students did this 2 weeks ago on the last weekend before classes: https://www.amestrib.com/picture-gal...ng/5598724002/ The governor ended up re-closing bars in 6 counties, including the homes of both the U of Iowa and Iowa State, because of this (still won't initiate a mask mandate, though).

But yes, let's go ahead and allow 25,000 people into a football stadium because $$$.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

It's amazing how disingenuous guys like Clay Travis are. He wrote an article about how Warren only canceled to try to get Biden elected. His citation was a Yahoo article titled "Can the Big Ten sway an election? Kevin Warren wants to find out." Except he didn't really cite it, he just embedded one of his own tweets that included a screenshot of the title of the article. A search of the article finds that Warren was just setting up racial and equality coalitions among athletes in the conference as well as a push to register all 10,000 athletes at the schools to vote.

Update: Travis is the one who set up the Trump-Warren meeting.

Things make a lot more sense now.

 

[Handyman]

If Kevin Warren is stupid enough to let himself be used like a pawn by Trump and his cronies then he should be fired the day after he makes the decision. What a feckless and weakwilled individual he would have to be...which is literally everything Trumpers are calling him for calling off the season.

He already looks weak by backing off January and thinking about Thanksgiving, if he goes to October to satisfy the likes of Clay Travis and Donald Trump then he proves he is in way over his head.

 

[dxmnkd316]

If you don’t have the balls to tell someone that isn’t your boss to fuck himself, you’re in way over your head.

own your power or you never had it to begin with.

 

[Handyman]

Exactly. I get the idea of walking it back if things are getting better but just doing it because Trump called you and promised you something he cant deliver is pathetic and you are better off resigning because there is zero chance you have what it takes to run a league like the Big Ten. tOSU and Michigan will walk all over you.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1300987443995435009

 

[Handyman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherR...57287778004992

Penn State's director of athletic medicine says that MRI scans revealed that around 30-35% of Big Ten athletes who tested positive for COVID-19 appeared to have myocarditis, a type of inflammation of the heart muscle

edit: Oh lord the Clay Travis crowd is now saying myocarditis is common in athletes that exert themselves like football players in general. Meanwhile every stat I see says otherwise. I am not a doctor but those of you who have expertise on this want to weigh in?

 

[Handyman]

I dunno. I stopped reading because I already hate half the college football fans anyways. I love my team and wish to hell they were playing but I also dont think that is worth them getting sick over. It is bad enough they have to risk their brains with concussions but at least they sign up for that. This is out of their control. That is why we already have players in the SEC opting out...

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Village idiot MN republican leaders now lobbying to get the big ten playing

 

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1303712455173042178

"College football player Jamain Stephens dies at age 20 of Covid-19 complications"

 

[Kepler]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1303712455173042178

"College football player Jamain Stephens dies at age 20 of Covid-19 complications"

This is a murder.

 

[SJHovey]

This is a murder.

I think his college had decided not to play this year and cancelled the season, if I read the article correct. I'm not sure there is a real connection between "college football" and his death, other than the fact that he had played college football the last three years.

 

[Slap Shot]

I think his college had decided not to play this year and cancelled the season, if I read the article correct. I'm not sure there is a real connection between "college football" and his death, other than the fact that he had played college football the last three years.

Fine but it calls into question the belief college football players are too healthy to die from Covid.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1303712455173042178

"College football player Jamain Stephens dies at age 20 of Covid-19 complications"

They won't care.

 

[Handyman]

The school did cancel so you cant blame them for that. There is no connection other than the fact he plays college football. (which is what this thread is about) Of course there doesnt need to be, a kid dying of COVID who plays sports is newsworthy though...especially in an era where 40% of this country seems to think no one under 600 will die from this disease and if they do they probably deserve it.

 

[SJHovey]

Fine but it calls into question the belief college football players are too healthy to die from Covid.

I don't think any reasonable person has claimed that college football players can't die from Covid. Of course they can. Any person can.

I'll give you an example, using Minnesota data.

In Minnesota there have been, as of yesterday, 23,999 positive tests of Covid of persons in Minnesota 0-24 years of age, or basically up through their college years (unless you play hockey at North Dakota). 2 of those people have died.

On the other hand, there have been 5174 positive tests in Minnesotans 75+ years of age. 1295 have died.

So, is it possible that a college aged person, or younger, can contract Covid and die? Sure. But a college aged kid can contract colon cancer and die, too, even though doctors don't start telling you to get tested until you're 40 or 50. The numbers just tell you it's pretty unlikely, certainly as contrasted with someone much older.

Furthermore, I think some of the arguments made by college football supporters include the claim that the kids may actually be safer while kept under wraps by the college football program and coaches than they might be if they are just attending school or doing whatever else college aged kids do in their spare time. I don't know if that's going to be proven true, but obviously a college aged kid, who played football, but who had their season cancelled, can still get Covid and die.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

The school did cancel so you cant blame them for that. There is no connection other than the fact he plays college football. (which is what this thread is about) Of course there doesnt need to be, a kid dying of COVID who plays sports is newsworthy though...especially in an era where 40% of this country seems to think no one under 600 will die from this disease and if they do they probably deserve it.

Reasonable people won't blame the school. It's more the "if you're healthy you're fine" people who will find ways to attack this.

 

[Kepler]

I think his college had decided not to play this year and cancelled the season, if I read the article correct. I'm not sure there is a real connection between "college football" and his death, other than the fact that he had played college football the last three years.

OK, I assumed he was back in practice or something contarded. If he was just walking around then it's only the ordinary negligence of living under cons who downplayed the danger to goose the DJIA.

 

[Kepler]

I don't think any reasonable person has claimed that college football players can't die from Covid. Of course they can. Any person can.

While that is an obvious fact, for a long time (and maybe still) prominent voices in what we'll generously call the conservative "intelligencia" were blatting that COVID was not a serious threat to anyone except the Old and the Infirm. Their fixation on nursing homes was correlative to this axiom. And while it was obvious from the start to anyone with a brain that they were cynically running interference for Dump's bungling and GOP governors' negligence, half the country doesn't have a brain and the false sense of security led directly to super spreader sh-t like Sturgis and reopening schools.

You guys own this; you can't backpeddle now. Ya done f-cked up and now you're gonna pay.

 

[SJHovey]

While that is an obvious fact, for a long time (and maybe still) prominent voices in what we'll generously call the conservative "intelligencia" were blatting that COVID was not a serious threat to anyone except the Old and the Infirm. Their fixation on nursing homes was correlative to this axiom. And while it was obvious from the start to anyone with a brain that they were cynically running interference for Dump's bungling and GOP governors' negligence, half the country doesn't have a brain and the false sense of security led directly to super spreader sh-t like Sturgis and reopening schools.

You guys own this; you can't backpeddle now. Ya done f-cked up and now you're gonna pay.

You can cast blame wherever it makes you feel best. But the honest truth is that if you were to take a poll of every single person under 30 in this country on their view of the seriousness or risks of Covid, you'd probably get 90% of them saying it's no big deal. Or, if they felt like they were being tested, they'd give you the canned response of "it's serious," but then live their life as if it isn't.

They've viewed it that way since Covid showed up, and nothing has changed.

If you don't believe me, look around. Watch the news.

If I were in their position would I think or act any differently? Probably not. People make their own risk decisions. I did things in my 20's I wouldn't dream of doing now. For every anecdote they hear of a 20 year old dying, they have 30 friends who tested positive without a single symptom or adverse consequence.

Now, maybe you've concluded all those 20 year olds are part of the conservative intelligencia, but I don't buy it. If you're right, your party has a lot more problems than you've let on.