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US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

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psych said:
I mean, let's start with the 30-50, show 'em how to use 'em, and assess whether they really are hard to maintain supply lines for in Ukraine, etc., before sending more. This merely allows the Germans and their conscience to feel like they aren't responsible for the perceived escalation, and from ISW reports, among other places, the Leopard tanks are more familiar with Ukrainian forces anyways, and are easier to maintain supply lines for. If the Germans only send 50, yeah, we all need to send more faster. I personally don't think 50-100 Abrams/Leopards is worse than 0. I agree with Drew, ISW, and whoever else says time is of the essence for Ukraine. Breaking through to Kreminna, Svatove, etc., might roll up the Russian lines and create another Kharkiv oblast-like retreat.
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I think it's more of a twist to Germany's nuts re: the Leopards. They have been dragging their heels and citing escalation as their reason. We are about to deprive them of that excuse. How now, Berlin cow?
 
Swansong said:
I had thought the big issue with sending Abrams was logistics, specifically fuel logistics.
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Ukraine has been using captured Russian T-90s that are Diesel. M1 Abrams uses a Honeywell multi-fuel gas turbine engine (GTE). However, Ukraine was actually a leading supplier of GTE prior to the war. I don't know if they lost the production of their plants to invading Russian forces, but they certainly had the know-how and training. So I have no idea whether there is a real issue or whether it is being advanced by pro-Russian agents. I simply lack the understanding to judge.
 
Kepler said:
Ukraine has been using captured Russian T-90s that are Diesel. M1 Abrams uses a Honeywell multi-fuel gas turbine engine (GTE). However, Ukraine was actually a leading supplier of GTE prior to the war. I don't know if they lost the production of their plants to invading Russian forces, but they certainly had the know-how and training. So I have no idea whether there is a real issue or whether it is being advanced by pro-Russian agents. I simply lack the understanding to judge.
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Which means we can't send them the US version of the M1. From what I understand, there are diesel M1's out in the world. Because we export those tanks.

While Ukraine may have good kerosene for running a turbine M1, taking kerosene from the airports to move them to the front isn't exactly a good move from a logistics standpoint. The US can get away with it because pretty much every combat thing we use actually runs on the very expensive kerosene that our jets use.

But if they were going to get M1s, it makes it a lot easier for export diesel versions.
 
Kepler said:
It worked. Germany is sending Leopard 2 tanks.
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I think that reporting was out before the news about the U.S. sending tanks, or at least there was reporting that Germany would feel comfortable sending their Leopard tanks if the U.S. sent its Abrams first (thus my snark that the U.S. sending its tanks first relieves Germany’s conscience of potentially escalating by saying we acted first). Not to mention, Poland said it’s sending their Leopard tanks, regardless of what Germany had decided. So, currently it’s 30-50 Abrams, 14 Leopards from Germany, and around 14 Leopards from Poland. Ukraine has asked for 300.
 
I hope we put one of those shopping cart deals on them that disable the wheels if they go beyond the parking lot. If you catch my drift.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I hope we put one of those shopping cart deals on them that disable the wheels if they go beyond the parking lot. If you catch my drift.
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I'm sure there's software that can disable them from satellite signals.

Heck, we can brick a military radio by sending remote signals to it.
 
1908 cartoon:

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Good god, those drawing are so bad they’re good :-)
the japs and chinks should sue :-O
The Spaniard there gets a pass for being their worst.
and mookie had no idea Churchill was pm in 1908…
 
mookie1995 said:
Good god, those drawing are so bad they’re good :-)
the japs and chinks should sue :-O
The Spaniard there gets a pass for being their worst.
and mookie had no idea Churchill was pm in 1908…
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Oh my god. I didn't even look that closely. The box under Japan. Yikes.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Is this kind of thing normal? Would it be normal for his superiors to bring him in and tell him to shut the **** up? Or shuffle him off to whatever the ****iest base in like Northern Alaska is (sorry Jim)
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It's very, very, very un-normal. As an officer you do NOT do stuff like this, ever. It actually used to be Verboten even in retirement, because you were still by penumbra representative of the official armed forces, but that has gone out the window with news punditry sadly.

In 2022 he said this:

In September 2022, Minihan said at a military conference that the Air Force was responsible for the biggest "pile of our nation's enemy dead" among the branches of the American military and that "[w]hen you can kill your enemy, every part of your life is better. Your food tastes better. Your marriage is stronger."
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So he's just an unprofessional piece of trash in addition to being a sociopath. He'll get a gig on Fox in retirement, or run for office as a derp.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Is this kind of thing normal? Would it be normal for his superiors to bring him in and tell him to shut the **** up? Or shuffle him off to whatever the ****iest base in like Northern Alaska is (sorry Jim)
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Dude, we make fun of Fairbanks for a reason. I’m pretty sure no one wants to be at Fort Wainwright.
 
Kepler said:
It's very, very, very un-normal. As an officer you do NOT do stuff like this, ever. It actually used to be Verboten even in retirement, because you were still by penumbra representative of the official armed forces, but that has gone out the window with news punditry sadly.

In 2022 he said this:



So he's just an unprofessional piece of trash in addition to being a sociopath. He'll get a gig on Fox in retirement, or run for office as a derp.
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And he can't be retired now?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Is this kind of thing normal? Would it be normal for his superiors to bring him in and tell him to shut the **** up? Or shuffle him off to whatever the ****iest base in like Northern Alaska is (sorry Jim)
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Putting him in Alaska when he has a hard-on for China is probably a bad idea. Assign him to a base in the Sahara.
 
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