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US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

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President Z isn't taking any of NATO's bullsh-t.

President Zelenskyy stated that NATO created a Russian myth, the "NATO countries themselves created the narrative that closing the skies of Ukraine will lead to direct Russian aggression against NATO". He added that this was a "self-hypnosis of the weak and insecure".
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Sorry, but no it's not bullshit. Why should 8 billion people sacrifice their lives?

because you done just declare a no fly zone you enforce it.
which means planes over Ukraine.
which means one will get shot down eventually
which means WWIII
Which could mean nukes
 
That's not why it's bullsh-t.

We can be honest and say, "We're sorry about your country and your women and children. Kiev's nice. But it's no New York."

Just say that. Then I have no problem -- I understand the calculus same as you do.
 
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Civilians sheltering from bombings in Kiev
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Sorry, but no it's not bull****. Why should 8 billion people sacrifice their lives?

because you done just declare a no fly zone you enforce it.
which means planes over Ukraine.
which means one will get shot down eventually
which means WWIII
Which could mean nukes
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I mean that is quite the slippery slope argument...
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Sorry, but no it's not bull****. Why should 8 billion people sacrifice their lives?

because you done just declare a no fly zone you enforce it.
which means planes over Ukraine.
which means one will get shot down eventually
which means WWIII
Which could mean nukes
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Okay. I understand the calculus too.

But we can all see this isn't going to end until every Ukrainian is either gone from the country literally or spiritually, or they assimilate to Russian life.

We're watching the systemic eradication of the Jews all over and we continue to ask ourselves "how could the Good Germans do that?"



It's been over a week. Peace talks are a joke, literally, because they continue to shell during cease fires. There needs to be a humanitarian no-fly-zone set for, christ pick a longitude, 31?E and west to the Poland border.
 
aparch said:
Okay. I understand the calculus too.

But we can all see this isn't going to end until every Ukrainian is either gone from the country literally or spiritually, or they assimilate to Russian life.

We're watching the systemic eradication of the Jews all over and we continue to ask ourselves "how could the Good Germans do that?"



It's been over a week. Peace talks are a joke, literally, because they continue to shell during cease fires. There needs to be a humanitarian no-fly-zone set for, christ pick a longitude, 31?E and west to the Poland border.
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It will not happen. The US and NATO have been crystal clear.

What you are proposing is a land war acrosss Europe where tens of millions of people will die.
 
aparch said:
Now, I'll give you all a moment to think about your geography, and then time to open up Google Maps.


If you all could point to where on the Baltic Sea Belarus would be able to build a port... why did you chose Lithuania?
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Wow, so generous of Pooty to offer up St. Petersburg!
 
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