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Yale Hockey 2014-2015. 138 miles to the ultimate goal.

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QUAlum2004 said:
Students are the only general admission section. The rest are assigned seating and hence the need for ushers.
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When I was there last weekend the ushers did nothing to keep a few groups of students from sitting wherever they felt like. There was a group in our seats that when we showed them our tickets they moved to another seat in the section and then that group showed up and they moved again. Anywho, it did seem a bit disorganized, the ushers didn't seem to do much about it. So I agree a bit with Boola on that one ... On another note, your arena is gorgeous!!!
 
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Saints#1 said:
When I was there last weekend the ushers did nothing to keep a few groups of students from sitting wherever they felt like.
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I think it depends on the usher/section. The ushers in 113 were doing a pretty good job keeping the students away prior to the game. As the game wore on, more and more of them started filling in some of the empty seats. There were plenty of Yale students (or maybe just young fans) doing the same. The Bank was a madhouse last night for sure.

As for the game, neither team seemed to play to their potential but it was a good game nonetheless. Somewhat fitting that both games ended in a tie I guess...
 
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In general the students are pretty good. Just loud, which is what they are supposed to be doing. There were a couple of real bad ones in the Yale section. I saw parents leaving with young children because of the language. It was really bad.

I don't understand why the ice is so bad, it certainly isn't from overuse.
 
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Boola said:
I don't understand why the ice is so bad, it certainly isn't from overuse.
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Not sure I understand what you mean. The ice seemed fine to me last night, certainly no worse than it's been all season. I didn't really see any instances of the ice affecting play.
 
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The puck was bouncing all over the place, there were a lot of ruts in the corners visable from the stands. Both coaches commented on the poor ice conditions in their post game interviews. I don't think it effected the outcome of the game, just the flow.
 
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I would think that the warmer than usual ambient conditions with the packed house could have been part of the problem. Although a few players I know hate the ice there, saying it is the softest in the league. Ingalls is not much better BTW. Both rinks should take a hint from others and start having shovel crews like other rinks do and clean the edges and creases late in the periods.
 
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LTsatch said:
I would think that the warmer than usual ambient conditions with the packed house could have been part of the problem. Although a few players I know hate the ice there, saying it is the softest in the league. Ingalls is not much better BTW. Both rinks should take a hint from others and start having shovel crews like other rinks do and clean the edges and creases late in the periods.
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Not to butt in, but most rinks in the mid west send out a small crew at the TV time outs, ( 3 times per period) to clean the ice in front of the crease.
 
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LTsatch said:
I would think that the warmer than usual ambient conditions with the packed house could have been part of the problem. Although a few players I know hate the ice there, saying it is the softest in the league. Ingalls is not much better BTW. Both rinks should take a hint from others and start having shovel crews like other rinks do and clean the edges and creases late in the periods.
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Nooooooo! They do that in Hockey East and it's so silly. And they always time it so they get a timely timeout for the home team. There are lots of other ways to get good ice like just keeping the doors open in this weather!
 
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Nice workmanlike win for the Blue and White. DiChiara had a great weekend and is stepping up at the right time. Also nice to see Yale put a spanking on Finney after the ECAC snubbed Lyon for goalie of the week last week. Watching the end of the SCSU to see what it does to Yale's PWR standing.
 
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LTsatch said:
Nice workmanlike win for the Blue and White. DiChiara had a great weekend and is stepping up at the right time. Also nice to see Yale put a spanking on Finney after the ECAC snubbed Lyon for goalie of the week last week. Watching the end of the SCSU to see what it does to Yale's PWR standing.
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Well a 1-0-1 weekend actually sees us lower in PWR than when we started. How?
Well, before the season started we discussed just how weak out out of conference schedule was, and no doubt this is strongly reflected in our current PWR and RPI.
Our SOS is 44th in the country.
So thus despite only one out of conference loss (@Northeastern when we were leading 2-0), there is still a lot of work to do if this team wants to make it to the NCAAs despite presently having the 6th best winning percentage in the country.
Certainly in the past Yale has scheduled more difficult OOC games, and as a recent national champ there would seem to be ability to schedule tougher. I have to think not scheduling a difficult OOC schedule is intentional and I'm not sure I get the reasoning.
Sadly, with limited OOC games, starting the season later than everyone else (and thus playing another Ivy in opening tourney- which I agree with), and being committed to playing an OOC game vs. Harvard every year, that leaves even less opportunity. For starters we simply must stop playing Holy Cross, and should not be scheduling any games vs. Atlantic Hockey teams. Playing Holy Cross and RIT this year is a joke.
With that said, in order to make NCAAs Yale is likely going to need to make it to the ECAC finals (assuming we get at least 2-4 points this weekend).
Does anyone know if there is a third place game still? If so, I guess that might help us, although losing twice in ECAC championship (like we did in 2013) would certainly eliminate us from NCAAs.
 
yalehockeyfan said:
Well a 1-0-1 weekend actually sees us lower in PWR than when we started. How?
Well, before the season started we discussed just how weak out out of conference schedule was, and no doubt this is strongly reflected in our current PWR and RPI.
Our SOS is 44th in the country.
So thus despite only one out of conference loss (@Northeastern when we were leading 2-0), there is still a lot of work to do if this team wants to make it to the NCAAs despite presently having the 6th best winning percentage in the country.
Certainly in the past Yale has scheduled more difficult OOC games, and as a recent national champ there would seem to be ability to schedule tougher. I have to think not scheduling a difficult OOC schedule is intentional and I'm not sure I get the reasoning.
Sadly, with limited OOC games, starting the season later than everyone else (and thus playing another Ivy in opening tourney- which I agree with), and being committed to playing an OOC game vs. Harvard every year, that leaves even less opportunity. For starters we simply must stop playing Holy Cross, and should not be scheduling any games vs. Atlantic Hockey teams. Playing Holy Cross and RIT this year is a joke.
With that said, in order to make NCAAs Yale is likely going to need to make it to the ECAC finals (assuming we get at least 2-4 points this weekend).
Does anyone know if there is a third place game still? If so, I guess that might help us, although losing twice in ECAC championship (like we did in 2013) would certainly eliminate us from NCAAs.
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There is still a third place game, but last time we were in it after Yale stole it from us, we beat Princeton in A shootout, but it counted as a tie and with a win we would have been in, with a tie we were out....but, hey, at least Joe Marsh cracked everyone up railing against shootouts!
 
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No third place game.

I agree with everything you say (and was just saying it yesterday on FB). The tie with Princeton in the initial game, which you'd think would be devastating was actually less harmful than the loss to Northeastern. Northeastern has been playing better lately, and a run in Hockey East (and especially a Beanpot win) would help Yale a bit. I think the theory on the HC game was to have a warmup game coming off break, but wasn't that was the Russian game was supposed to be? Of course, the Harvard win looked great OOC until Harvard started flailing. Vermont is slowly sinking as well. If the CT tourney they keep talking about comes off, we'll just replace RIT with Sacred Heart, and add another potential QPac game (especially if they move to HE). Anyway, scheduling will always be a problem when we start late and are restricted in total regular season games.
 
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We started this years thread talking about the lousy schedule, lets hope we don't end the thread the same way. As diane says on the FB page, just win. Going to be a tough weekend against Cornell and Colgate, they are playing for pride now and never let Yale off the hook. Here is a thought, would two points only against Colgate, and the loss of the bye, help Yale in the PWR if they have the potential to win more games. It is a devil's deal and not the way the game is played, but maybe one of the guru's here could figure it out. Or just get the bye and win the GD tourney!
 
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LTsatch said:
Here is a thought, would two points only against Colgate, and the loss of the bye, help Yale in the PWR if they have the potential to win more games.
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It's an interesting thought (I've discussed it before with Patman) but this year, I think not. The easy way to think about it is that you are, at best, trading a loss for two wins. Since our winning percentage is already around .667 that doesn't do much, even if you guaranteed two wins in the first round of the playoffs. And two wins against Princeton won't help much at all, as we saw last night. And Brown? I'd be far more worried about losing one to those guys. Let's take our two wins this year and leave them behind. (Still seeing that **** Harry Z...) So I'd say that at least 3 points next week is what we need to maintain our position and take it from there.
 
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PS: For those looking for something to root for tomorrow, Harvard and Northeastern wins in the Beanpot (particularly Harvard) will move Yale back to 14th in the PWR.
 
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goblue78 said:
It's an interesting thought (I've discussed it before with Patman) but this year, I think not. The easy way to think about it is that you are, at best, trading a loss for two wins. Since our winning percentage is already around .667 that doesn't do much, even if you guaranteed two wins in the first round of the playoffs. And two wins against Princeton won't help much at all, as we saw last night. And Brown? I'd be far more worried about losing one to those guys. Let's take our two wins this year and leave them behind. (Still seeing that **** Harry Z...) So I'd say that at least 3 points next week is what we need to maintain our position and take it from there.
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From present look of things finishing 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th in ECAC won't make a difference for our NCAA chances.
Our current pairwise/RPI ranking is presently held back entirely by SOS. Almost regardless of outcomes this weekend we will need to advance to ECAC championship game in order to qualify for NCAAs. Anything short of that will take some 2013 magic.
 
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As for the whole losing to get additional 1st round games- I'd seriously doubt it. There is a tight group of teams in the 14-22ish band, similar to the cliff that was present with the TUC factor in seasons past. SLU with a loss and a tie last weekend @ QU/Princeton dropped them from 16 to 21 or so. Even with wins over Dartmouth and Harvard this weekend didn't help out much. Y'all wouldn't get a 1st round matchup with a team high enough to really benefit, most likely.
 
hockeyplayer1015 said:
As for the whole losing to get additional 1st round games- I'd seriously doubt it. There is a tight group of teams in the 14-22ish band, similar to the cliff that was present with the TUC factor in seasons past. SLU with a loss and a tie last weekend @ QU/Princeton dropped them from 16 to 21 or so. Even with wins over Dartmouth and Harvard this weekend didn't help out much. Y'all wouldn't get a 1st round matchup with a team high enough to really benefit, most likely.
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Really stinks that ECAC parity hurts us in the PWR. Even Q is not assured doe to their poor and weak OOC schedule. We could be a 1 bid league.
 
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