Yale Hockey 2010

[klumpmypants]

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I would highly recommend visiting siouxsports.com (it is currently down for me, but appears to be up for everyone else). The menu on the left provides a number of links to various rankings, including RPI, PWR, and KRACH. The PWR page also allows you to go in-depth into the individual comparisons between Team X (Yale) and every other TUC. The RPI page allows you to go in-depth on Team X and see how their RPI will be affected by various wins and losses throughout the rest of the regular season. This allows you to find various comparisons that can be flipped, potentially pushing Yale towards a #1 seed.

I agree with RC that it is unlikely for Yale to get a #1 seed, barring a monumental collapse by 3 different teams ahead of them, mainly because of the ECAC's lack of TUCs and Yale's 0-2 record against Hockey East. But, since I don't have any kind of expertise in this area (didn't start paying attention to PWR until last year), and my favorite predictor tool isn't working right now, I'm not going to pass judgment on their chances.

Thanks for the rec. What I am getting from looking at this is that Yale is screwed because they have only played 8 games against TUCs and they need 10 for that comparison aspect to count. They are 4-2-2 in those 8 games and would be winning a few more comparisons based on that winning percentage. It looks like the only way they can get those extra two games against TUCs is if another ECAC team breaks into the top 25 in RPI. The problem there is that the likely candidates are SLU or RPI and Yale is 0-3 against them. So Yale MUST BEAT SLU on Friday to have a chance at a #1. It would be great if QU or Colgate could make a run at the top 25, but it all depends on these last 2 weekends.

 

[burgie12]

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So Yale MUST BEAT SLU on Friday to have a chance at a #1.

Yale beating SLU further endangers SLU from ever becoming a TUC. Beating them basically ensures that the TUC comparison will never come into play.

t would be great if QU or Colgate could make a run at the top 25, but it all depends on these last 2 weekends.

Yes it would, but with the wacky ECAC, it is unlikely that any team (save maybe Yale or Cornell) will be able to win out.

 

[klumpmypants]

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Basically, Yale would need to win out, have teams in front of them drop games (to lower their RPI), and root against RPI or SLU becoming a TUC (as soon as Yale gets 10 games against TUCs, they will start to lose comparisons that they had already won with minimal benefit) in order to become a #1 seed. It's just not a likely scenario.

Good analysis and nice edit. See, if RC is so smart he could have just told us all this. My problem with him is he thinks we all know nothing so all he has to say is, "trust me this is what will happen."

As to assuming no other RPIs change, how about this? UW plays SCSU this weekend, so someone has to lose. Same with Denver and CC in the last weekend of the season. And BC has games against UNH. You are modest but your analysis was a little more in depth than mine, so what do you make of those matchups? Does rooting for UW and DU help us.

Also, the RPI predictions are only carried out through the end of the regular season. If Yale wins out through the ECAC tourney, their RPI will be even higher, they will hopefully pick up a win against either Cornell or Union to help the TUC comparison, and one or two of those WCHA teams will obviously lose again to the others. Thoughts?

 

[ColSkate65]

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Congrats to you guys on winning the Ivy title and beating Cornell last weekend.

You have a very fast, quick, and talented team...fun to watch. Unless Colgate pulls a miracle, I'll be rooting for you in the NCAA"s....

 

[burgie12]

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Good analysis and nice edit. See, if RC is so smart he could have just told us all this. My problem with him is he thinks we all know nothing so all he has to say is, "trust me this is what will happen."

I thought that the in-depth I put in was a little too in-depth. It would have been over my head a month ago, or even a week ago if I had not found siouxsports.com.

As to assuming no other RPIs change, how about this? UW plays SCSU this weekend, so someone has to lose. Same with Denver and CC in the last weekend of the season. And BC has games against UNH. You are modest but your analysis was a little more in depth than mine, so what do you make of those matchups? Does rooting for UW and DU help us.

I think you're right. Rooting for the top 3 positions to solidify themselves would likely be your best bet, especially if their wins come against other top-10 teams. Of course, CC only needs to go .500 for a predicted RPI of ~0.5530. Wins against TUCs are more important than losses against non-TUCs (see BU / NU last season, Bemidji this season).

Also, the RPI predictions are only carried out through the end of the regular season. If Yale wins out through the ECAC tourney, their RPI will be even higher, they will hopefully pick up a win against either Cornell or Union to help the TUC comparison, and one or two of those WCHA teams will obviously lose again to the others. Thoughts?

A series against Union (highly unlikely) would be a huge boost. Yale over Union in the semis (with Union winning the 3rd place game) and Yale over Cornell in the finals after a sweep in the quarters would be the absolute ideal (and semi-realistic) situation.

As far as Yale is concerned, Rensselaer absolutely cannot become a TUC unless they meet in the quarters and Yale sweeps (which, of course, will send the Tute below the TUC cliff again). A pair of wins over Union and Cornell in the tournament will push Yale to a 6-2-2 record in TUCs (a very impressive record), and flip the CC, SCSU, and Miami comparisons (if Miami splits or does worse against UNO, which I do not see happening). Remember, the Massachusetts comparison does not flip because head-to-head games do not count.

So, under this veritable perfect storm of results, Yale would win 21 individual comparisons, enough for 4th-most in the nation.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Good analysis and nice edit. See, if RC is so smart he could have just told us all this. My problem with him is he thinks we all know nothing so all he has to say is, "trust me this is what will happen."

Those who choose to act like a four year old get treated as a four year old. Those who choose to act like adults get treated as adults. It's not a difficult concept for an adult to grasp.

You're apparently the only person here who needs a long-winded answer to everything. Go sit in the corner.

 

[klumpmypants]

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Those who choose to act like a four year old get treated as a four year old. Those who choose to act like adults get treated as adults. It's not a difficult concept for an adult to grasp.

You're apparently the only person here who needs a long-winded answer to everything. Go sit in the corner.

No one seemed to miss you while you were gone, so why don't you just stay gone. Your posts are meaningless. Burgie's answers were not long-winded. Yours were just completely uninformative. If you want to be an expert, be an expert. Frankly, you argue like a woman, which isn't a bad strategy as long as you only care about winning rather than being correct.

To be treated as an adult is to be given an explanation, not told "trust me, you'll understand when you are older." Maybe you'll understand all this when you're older. Or after you have had a relationship with a woman.

 

[yalehockeyfan]

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This Yale board is not a welcomed place for insensible banter and random tossing of insults.

The only place for that at Yale is if you are a member of 'The Yale Precision Marching Band.'

Thus, please either apply to become a member of the band and I'll see you are The Bowl, or move this debate to WCHA forum*.





* I only choose WCHA as the craziest college hockey fight I have ever witnessed in my life occured about 6 years ago (maybe more) between Yale and North Dakota at Ingalls. Was anyone else there for that?

 

[redrocker]

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* I only choose WCHA as the craziest college hockey fight I have ever witnessed in my life occured about 6 years ago (maybe more) between Yale and North Dakota at Ingalls. Was anyone else there for that?

Oh yes. That brawl also included the North Dakota radio guy getting into a shouting match with a fan seated in the row in front of him (presumably while he was still on the air) because said fan overheard and took exception to disparaging comments the radio guy made about the Yale players.

 

[klumpmypants]

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She mentioned her brother plays hockey for Yale on an NBC studio interview.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/as...-a944-4f20393ce572.html#catching+with+kearney

 

[yalehockeyfan]

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Oh yes. That brawl also included the North Dakota radio guy getting into a shouting match with a fan seated in the row in front of him (presumably while he was still on the air) because said fan overheard and took exception to disparaging comments the radio guy made about the Yale players.

The craziest part of that fight was after about 5 minutes things were settling down and the North Dakota goalie skates up to the blue line and is having some words with one of the Yale players. The Yale player starts to skate away and the North Dakota goalie throws himself backwards acting like he got shoved. The Yale guy turns around and looks at him like 'what the hell are you doing.' Then all of a sudden before the Yale guy can get another thought in, the entire Northa Dakota team is on top of him throwing haymakers. From there it just turned ugly.

 

[redrocker]

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The craziest part of that fight was after about 5 minutes things were settling down and the North Dakota goalie skates up to the blue line and is having some words with one of the Yale players. The Yale player starts to skate away and the North Dakota goalie throws himself backwards acting like he got shoved. The Yale guy turns around and looks at him like 'what the hell are you doing.' Then all of a sudden before the Yale guy can get another thought in, the entire Northa Dakota team is on top of him throwing haymakers. From there it just turned ugly.

Forgot about that. I believe the Yale player got kicked out, too, because the goalie took that dive. But the brou-ha-ha started when a North Dakota player lost his edge coming around a corner with Chris Higgins, and hit the boards hard. The ND guys thought Higgins threw a cheap shot, and ambushed him. Great fight.

 

[yalehockeyfan]

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Forgot about that. I believe the Yale player got kicked out, too, because the goalie took that dive. But the brou-ha-ha started when a North Dakota player lost his edge coming around a corner with Chris Higgins, and hit the boards hard. The ND guys thought Higgins threw a cheap shot, and ambushed him. Great fight.

Fortunately for Yale their lineup back then was a little bigger than their lineup today.

Unfortunately for Yale, it wasn't that much bigger

 

[LTsatch]

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Anyone have the link for the Yale ECAC playoff tix for Ingalls? I saw an order form last week and a notice about in person purchases but cant seem to find the info on the site now. Who's attending games this weekend? I plan to be at both and the QU away game.

I hope Yale makes it back east for the dance I have center ice 10th row for the Worcester regional

 

[bulldawg21]

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There are plenty of tickets for the ECAC Playoff series at Ingalls. Call 203 432-1400 to order tickets.

FYI - This Saturday's game versus Clarkson is Youth Day. Kids 14 and under will be admitted free in the GA section. As a part of the festivities, there will be a post game autograph session with the Yale men's hockey team. Pens & posters will be provided. The game starts at 4PM. -spread the word....

 

[LTsatch]

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Thanks BD, I will swing by Tompkins tomorrow.

 

[klumpmypants]

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Is this thread always so dead? Points for discussion:

Sean Backman has 74 and needs 14 more goals to break the Yale career record of 87 held by Ding Palmer '30. The modern record is 80 set by Jeff Hamilton, the best college player to ever wear the Yale jersey. Yale will play anywhere from 6-13 more games. Can he break it? And what if it's to win the national title?

Billy Blase is finally getting the time in net he deserves? What took Allain so long? Does anyone know? He's the only goalie that Taylor recruited, does Allain not like him for some reason?

 

[LTsatch]

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The goalie rotation is my major concern with Yale going forward. Blase is playing very well and hopefully will play well for the rest of the year as th number one goalie. I have no idea about Allains motives, I just wish he would stick with one guy long enough to create some continuity. If they count post season goals, Backman may have a shot.

New ECAC ticket info from the Yale site below, why don't they just sell the tixs as Series One etc. so they can get the sales going instead of the archaic ordering system now in place?


ECAC TOURNAMENT - We will host one weekend, but not both. The potential dates are below.
First round | March 5, 6, 7
Quarterfinal series | March 12, 13, 14

We are currently taking orders for the ECAC Tournament series to be played at Ingalls Rink. At this time, we do not know which weekend the best-of-three series will be held. For more information about the format of the ECAC Tournament, please refer to the ECAC Tournament website.

To place an order, please complete this order form or call the Athletics Ticket Office at 203.432.1400. ECAC Tournament tickets will be available online when actual dates are determined.

 

[klumpmypants]

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The goalie rotation is my major concern with Yale going forward. Blase is playing very well and hopefully will play well for the rest of the year as th number one goalie. I have no idea about Allains motives, I just wish he would stick with one guy long enough to create some continuity.

I have no problem with goalie rotations when all parties are pretty equal. I just dont get why he waits until February before he even gives his best option a chance. It's like wait let me watch everyone else try and fail first.

New ECAC ticket info from the Yale site
ECAC TOURNAMENT - We will host one weekend, but not both. The potential dates are below.
First round | March 5, 6, 7
Quarterfinal series | March 12, 13, 14

No one kid themselves. They are playing the weekend of the 12th. Get your QU tickets for the weekend before if you want to watch 2 weekends of hockey.

 

[yhforlife]

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No one kid themselves. They are playing the weekend of the 12th. Get your QU tickets for the weekend before if you want to watch 2 weekends of hockey.

This may be the greatest post I have ever seen. I absolutely love this.

Anyways. Does anyone know what happened to Chris Cahill. He is no longer on the team for some reason. I think that Backman can break Hamilton's record but I would be shocked if he reached the other mark.
I still can't believe this is the last home weekend.