Yale Hockey 2010

[Slasher7]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I actually think Yale has more offensive talent than BC and that is saying a lot.

I would disagree with this. BC still has guys like Kreider who didn't really do anything yesterday. Yale was definitely the most explosive team that BC has played all year, though. Not even close.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Couple questions for Yale fans...

1. Looking at your goalies, where was the freshman Maricic? He has a better GAA and SP than two of the three goalies that dressed. Is he your projected starter next year?

2. Were Arcobello, Backman, and Dignard Taylor recruits?

3. How's the recruiting class for next year look?

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I would disagree with this. BC still has guys like Kreider who didn't really do anything yesterday. Yale was definitely the most explosive team that BC has played all year, though. Not even close.

That is a tough call, but I actually agree that Yale is a better offensive team than BC (defensively and goaltending wise, not so much!). You look at the number of players that have more than 1 PPG and average goals for per game, Yale clearly leads in the first category and leads a bit in the second category. Guess it doesn't matter as the better TEAM yesterday won.

I am trying to remember back when Taylor got ousted, which I still consider the more ridiculous move ever and a disgraceful way to treat a coaching legend. I believe the key fact is that either way they were CJ Maratola recruits and he is really going to be missed. I am actually troubled by giving Allain too much credit for all of this. He has done a great job and I like the system he uses and Yale is exciting to watch, but one thing is for sure that he didn't do this alone.

 

[shooter86]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Couple questions for Yale fans...

1. Looking at your goalies, where was the freshman Maricic? He has a better GAA and SP than two of the three goalies that dressed. Is he your projected starter next year?

2. Were Arcobello, Backman, and Dignard Taylor recruits?

3. How's the recruiting class for next year look?

1. Only the Coach knows, and he isn't talking.
2. The Seniors were all recruited before Allain came on the scene.
3. According to Chris Heisenberg's info it looks like 3 forwards and 2 defense committed to 2011. There are 3 forwards and 1 defense committed to 2011 or 2012. As well there are 3 forwards and 1 defense with no commit year. No goalies on the horizon.

 

[Slasher7]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

That is a tough call, but I actually agree that Yale is a better offensive team than BC (defensively and goaltending wise, not so much!). You look at the number of players that have more than 1 PPG and average goals for per game, Yale clearly leads in the first category and leads a bit in the second category. Guess it doesn't matter as the better TEAM yesterday won.

It's tough to compare because they dont play all the same teams. What BC has that Yale doesn't is depth. A fourth line guy like Matt Lombardi scores a hat trick to beat Maine and BC has a first and second round draft pick (Kreider and Hayes) playing on a third line.

This is not mentioned to disrespect Yale in any way, shape or form. They were fantastic and a lot of fun to watch.

 

[Boola]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Must have been a tough decision on the All- Tournament team at goalie. Not very often the best goalie in the regionals gives up 7 goals in the final. Maybe they picked out of a hat.

 

[Slasher7]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Must have been a tough decision on the All- Tournament team at goalie. Not very often the best goalie in the regionals gives up 7 goals in the final. Maybe they picked out of a hat.

Eidsness at UND had the best stats for the weekend. Tough to give it to the losing goalie in the first round.

 

[Boola]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I guess the Alaska goalie had the best stats, only gave up two goals.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

It's tough to compare because they dont play all the same teams. What BC has that Yale doesn't is depth. A fourth line guy like Matt Lombardi scores a hat trick to beat Maine and BC has a first and second round draft pick (Kreider and Hayes) playing on a third line.

This is not mentioned to disrespect Yale in any way, shape or form. They were fantastic and a lot of fun to watch.

Backman was 4th line at Yale. They had four good, balanced lines, with good chemistry and blazing speed. They were at least 12 deep at Forward. BC played better competition most nights, but one thing about the ECAC is it is a tough league to score goals in as a number of teams trap, play choking defense and have good goaltending. It is really too close to call for me, but Yale was one of the better offensive teams I have seen since 1988 SLU or 1989 Harvard. If only they had better D and goaltending!

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

2. The Seniors were all recruited before Allain came on the scene.

That is what I thought to be the case and is a really important point. Allain is going to have to win next season and the year after to make a true believe in him out of me. That was one heck of a class.

I wasn't thrilled with Allain saying on TV last night that he told the current seniors (when they were freshmen) not to listen to the older players. That is blatant disrespect to a good guy and good coach (Taylor).

I don't know him, but is Allain an arrogant guy? He sure comes off that way to me.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Prior to his injury, Backman was not on Yale's 4th line according to INCH. He was on a line with Brian O'Neill. Your leading scorer is not on a 4th line.

4th line was Anderson-Mason-Brockett.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Prior to his injury, Backman was not on Yale's 4th line according to INCH. He was on a line with Brian O'Neill. Your leading scorer is not on a 4th line.

4th line was Anderson-Mason-Brockett.

Yale mixed it up, but this was the line chart against SLU in Mid February a week before his injury:

LW 44 Jeff Anderson 0-0-0 1/+1 C 22 Brendan Mason 1-1-2 2/+2 RW 11 Charles Brockett 0-0-0 2/E
LW 19 Denny Kearney 0-1-1 2/+1 C 26 Mark Arcobello 1-0-1 4/E RW 14 Broc Little 1-2-3 5/+1
LW 59 Chad Ziegler 0-0-0 2/-1 C 10 Kevin Limbert 0-1-1 2/E RW 8 Josh Balch 0-0-0 4/-1
LW 9 Brian O'Neill 1-2-3 5/+2 C 17 Andrew Miller 0-0-0 2/+1 RW 16 Sean Backman 1-1-2 4/+3

 

[shooter86]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Sorry, but I don't think you can go by a lineup. The next night had that line 3rd and the 4th was Kearney, Arcobello, Little. Rest assured that the 1st line on any line chart is the starting lineup - in these cases it was the checking line against the opponents top line. Lines 2, 3 & 4 are likely just filled in.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Sorry, but I don't think you can go by a lineup. The next night had that line 3rd and the 4th was Kearney, Arcobello, Little. Rest assured that the 1st line on any line chart is the starting lineup - in these cases it was the checking line against the opponents top line. Lines 2, 3 & 4 are likely just filled in.

I'm not sure if you're arguing against me, but I agree that the first line listed on the line chart is obviously just the starting line. For example, BC's top line doesn't start games. My overall point here is a line with your leading scorer and Backman is not your "4th" line.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I'm not sure if you're arguing against me, but I agree that the first line listed on the line chart is obviously just the starting line. For example, BC's top line doesn't start games. My overall point here is a line with your leading scorer and Backman is not your "4th" line.

I am not arguing with your overall point, but Yale was four solid lines deep. Obviously, the majority of scoring came from two lines (Arcobello's and O'Neill's), but you look at the lineup any given night and Yale's lines were all over the place. Here is the lineup from Yale visiting SLU and it looks a lot different when Allain had to turn in the lineup before Marsh, but you still have Kearney and Little on the third line.

LW 9 Brian O'Neill 0-1-1 0/E C 26 Mark Arcobello 1-0-1 7/E RW 16 Sean Backman 0-0-0 8/E
LW 10 Kevin Limbert 0-0-0 4/E C 59 Chad Ziegler 0-1-1 1/+1 RW 28 Antoine Laganiere 1-0-1 3/+1
LW 19 Denny Kearney 0-0-0 3/-1 C 17 Andrew Miller 0-1-1 1/+1 RW 14 Broc Little 0-0-0 4/-1
LW 44 Jeff Anderson 0-0-0 1/-2 C 22 Brendan Mason 0-0-0 0/-2 RW 8 Josh Balch 0-0-0 3/-2


Bottom line is still Yale led the nation in goals per game, and does anyone believe a team like that, with (at times) poor defense and goaltending, could get to 20 wins without a dynamite offense? Yale had 12 guys with 10 points or more, and six with better than a PPG. That, plus over 4 goals per game, is pretty solid offense.

 

[Onion Man]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I am not arguing with your overall point, but Yale was four solid lines deep. Obviously, the majority of scoring came from two lines (Arcobello's and O'Neill's), but you look at the lineup any given night and Yale's lines were all over the place. Here is the lineup from Yale visiting SLU and it looks a lot different when Allain had to turn in the lineup before Marsh, but you still have Kearney and Little on the third line.

LW 9 Brian O'Neill 0-1-1 0/E C 26 Mark Arcobello 1-0-1 7/E RW 16 Sean Backman 0-0-0 8/E
LW 10 Kevin Limbert 0-0-0 4/E C 59 Chad Ziegler 0-1-1 1/+1 RW 28 Antoine Laganiere 1-0-1 3/+1
LW 19 Denny Kearney 0-0-0 3/-1 C 17 Andrew Miller 0-1-1 1/+1 RW 14 Broc Little 0-0-0 4/-1
LW 44 Jeff Anderson 0-0-0 1/-2 C 22 Brendan Mason 0-0-0 0/-2 RW 8 Josh Balch 0-0-0 3/-2


Bottom line is still Yale led the nation in goals per game, and does anyone believe a team like that, with (at times) poor defense and goaltending, could get to 20 wins without a dynamite offense?

Still with this "Yale is the best team" foolishness? Aren't you a SLUt fan? You are nauseatingly irritating.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I'm not saying Yale wasn't deep. Obviously they were. Just saying Backman and O'Neill together is never your 4th line.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Still with this "Yale is the best team" foolishness? Aren't you a SLUt fan? You are nauseatingly irritating.

No, I am not a fan of your mother! in fact, based on your posting history I think she owes us all an apology!

Instead of trolling, possibly look up the definiting of hypocrit!

 

[shooter86]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

No arguments. Just my observations.

A fact that was also reiterated by Allain on the weekend was that the TEAM defense was not up to par, the part of the game that IMO includes everyone. That was the weak link all year.

28/163 PP goals against compared to 20/197 the previous year on the same number of chances is another weak area, a part of TEAM defense.

Some off-season work needs to done in this area and with the returning players there should be no problem with scoring.

All in all it was a great season and every game was a thrill to watch, never knowing who was going to win, regardless of the score going into the last two minutes.

 

[Onion Man]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

No, I am not a fan of your mother! in fact, based on your posting history I think she owes us all an apology!

Instead of trolling, possibly look up the definiting of hypocrit!

Lame attempt at an insult. Typical SLU loser.