Yale Hockey 2010

[BigDEli]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Klump is right again .... The mandates are set in stone, by and large, in the committee handbook. The committee does have leeway in certain areas, but has chosen not to use it. Except for very rare and extreme circumstances -- i.e. moving Air Force from a 16 to a 15 so that it would stay in Colorado Springs because neither Denver or CC qualified that year (and that basically did nothing to 'bracket integrity') ... the committee has not paid a snot of attention to attendance.

It doesn't mean they can't - they just haven't. And people focusing on that in the last few years have been consistently wrong in the end, and/or confused, including any bracket gurus who tried to prognosticate otherwise.

I was just going to leave this alone, but since you just proved my point, I have to comment one more time. You just said:
1) The committee does have leeway
2) It has been used
3) It was done for attendance reasons
4) Moving a team one seed up or down (as was the case you mentioned about AFA) "basically did nothing to 'bracket integrity'", even though they were 4 games over .500 and UAH was 6 games under .500.

So how exactly is moving Cornell from the 7 seed to the 6 seed so as to give Albany a fighting chance of drawing 5,000 people and giving Cornell a bus ride (while the team it switched with, SCSU, was getting on a plane either way) any different than what the committee did with AFA? Or does it not matter as long as we're talking "weak" CHA and AHA schools at the very bottom of the bracket?

Anyway, this was never really my point to prove. I'll leave it alone so we can get back to talking about Yale, which is more important than these symantics...

 

[LTsatch]

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This bracketology stuff is quite the obsession on this board, I find it funny how many scenarios a guy will generate just to make his point, no matter how far fetched the wins and losses may be, it does make for some good entertainment though. Come Sunday night, all of this prognasticating will mean squat.

 

[klumpmypants]

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This bracketology stuff is quite the obsession on this board, I find it funny how many scenarios a guy will generate just to make his point, no matter how far fetched the wins and losses may be, it does make for some good entertainment though. Come Sunday night, all of this prognasticating will mean squat.

Exactly, so all you can do is pick the one situation that works best for your team and root for that. And For Yale, that begins with a Brown ECAC title.

 

[vicb]

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Less than one day to get your picks into the ECAC Pick The Playoffs. You have until 4:30PM on Friday. Here are the contestants from previous rounds who have yet to check in:
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[LTsatch]

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In case anyone is interested, I attended the CT High School Division One Semis tonight at Ingalls

Fairfield Prep 4 New Canaan 3
Hamden 3 Darien 2

Two good games and the final on Saturday will showcase the best two high school teams in the State.
Also a great division 2 final at Ingalls tomorrow evening with St Joseph against Amity

Gotta get my hockey fix somewhere

 

[LTsatch]

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Response to a question to bracket guru Priceless, hope it's true.

Quote:Originally Posted by goblue78
Does the UMD loss assure a place for Yale?

Priceless
I can't get them below 11th. It looks like they're in.
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[HPDriver]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

I also came to the same conclusion, that in order for Yale to be potentially eliminated from the NCAA tournament field, Minn-Duluth would at least have to beat North Dakota in the WCHA play-in game.

Although probably irrelevant at this point, I also found that:

1) In order for Yale to be potentially eliminated from the NCAA tournament field, Michigan must defeat Ferris State in the CCHA Championship game, and N. Michigan must defeat (not tie) Miami in the CCHA consolation game,
2) if Boston College wins the Hockey East tournament, Yale cannot be eliminated from the NCAA tournament field, regardless of other conference tournament outcomes, and
3) if Cornell wins the ECAC tournament, Yale cannot be eliminated from the NCAA tournament field,regardless of other conference tournament outcomes.

Did anyone else come to the same conclusions? Unfortunately, I think it is too late to test those assertions anymore since North Dakota already won the play-in game.

The one question that I do have is that in a lot of scenarios (even the ones listed above) I found that Yale would be tied for 11th with New Hampshire for the last position, but would win the tie based on RPI. However, "this tiebreaking procedure is used solely for convenience in displaying the PWR, and will not necessarily match the committee's process. This is especially true near the end of the top 16, where the committee looks more closely at head-to-head comparisons when selecting the last few teams."

So, does a tie for the last position with New Hampshire definitely get Yale into the tournament, or does it depend upon how the selection committee ultimately decides?

 

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Welcome to the board, you may want to post your theory in the "bracketology" thread, that is where the pairwise gurus reside. I hope you are wrong about UNH BTW.

 

[yalehockeyfan]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Welcome to the board, you may want to post your theory in the "bracketology" thread, that is where the pairwise gurus reside. I hope you are wrong about UNH BTW.

By my calculations Yale is in the tournament.
At best can be the 8th overall seed (a #2 seed in regional)
At worse they will be a 3 seed which is important as will prevent us from playing against a #1 (Miami, Denver, Wisconsin, BC) in opening round.

However, those are my calculations.

But it would appear that congrats to the Bulldogs in is order!

 

[LTsatch]

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Some strange goings on out west today, Hockey east is kind of normal. Union and Cornell should be a great game. Imagine if Sacred Heart wins tomorrow

 

[LTsatch]

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Anyone want to carpool to Fort Wayne?

Only 9 hours, may be divorced when I get back

Off to Ingalls for Hamden/Fairfield Prep.

 

[LTsatch]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Congrats to the Elis on looking to be a 3 seed in the NCAA bracket. Ending up in Ft. Wayne could be a good thing competition wise, there is talk of moving them to Worcester, which would be good because i would attend and already have center ice tickets, BUT they would most likely be up against the toughest bracket in the tourney. Nice to see the season continue!

 

[licwinko]

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For some reason, I get many UND games on tv. This was definitely the matchup I was hoping Yale would avoid. Oh well, they are certainly capable of running with anyone, they'll have to cash in when they can and hope for some more stellar net-minding.

 

[Boola]

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Anyone else notice Yale was not even mentioned during the selection show. They pretty much said BC - North Dakota will be a good game sunday.
I thought all the tournament games were on TV? Yale game is only on espn360.

 

[licwinko]

Re: Yale Hockey 2010

Anyone else notice Yale was not even mentioned during the selection show. They pretty much said BC - North Dakota will be a good game sunday.
I thought all the tournament games were on TV? Yale game is only on espn360.

Well, they were mentioned extensively last year and look what happened...

check the syndication thread for tv info

 

[BigDEli]

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Ugh...this is about the worst draw Yale could have been given.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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For some reason, I get many UND games on tv.

We have a deal with Fox Sports that shows all of our home games. It works great if you have a sports package on cable or DirecTV.

North Dakota is playing very good hockey at this point in time, but if Yale plays a tight game defensively and gets some goaltending, they have firepower to make the upset. If they are lax in their own end though, it could get ugly.

 

[yhforlife]

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We have a deal with Fox Sports that shows all of our home games. It works great if you have a sports package on cable or DirecTV.

North Dakota is playing very good hockey at this point in time, but if Yale plays a tight game defensively and gets some goaltending, they have firepower to make the upset. If they are lax in their own end though, it could get ugly.

Yale won't play tight defensively, or play great in their own end, or get goaltending. They will attack all out and swarm the Offensive zone. They usually can dominate teams in the transition game and get very good chances with their speed. What style does UND play?

 

[willythekid]

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Yale won't play tight defensively, or play great in their own end, or get goaltending. They will attack all out and swarm the Offensive zone. They usually can dominate teams in the transition game and get very good chances with their speed. What style does UND play?

we're not telling...

 

[GOPHER FREAK]

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Yale won't play tight defensively, or play great in their own end, or get goaltending. They will attack all out and swarm the Offensive zone. They usually can dominate teams in the transition game and get very good chances with their speed. What style does UND play?

UND will pound the living **** out of you. Their forecheck is relentless and generates a good portion of their offense off of the the turnovers it creates. UND is a very physical team with good skill around the net. Really the only weakness they have is in Eidsness imho, who has been decent lately.

It will be interesting to see what kind of game the CCHA/HEA officials call. If they call it tight UND could be in the box a lot as they are the most physical WCHA team I've seen in quite a while and the WCHA refs are know for letting them play.

Overall don't let the fact this was a 4th Place WCHA team fool you. It's a pretty solid hockey team that has as good a chance of winning it all as anyone.


This is an honest opinion from someone who has seen this team play 10 times this season.