World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

[mookie1995]

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Well mookie, Newcastle only lost 3-1 against Liverpool. At least the Magpies didn't get shut out! Got that going for us, which is nice...

this was an L the day the matches were announced. just win saturday at st james!!!

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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this was an L the day the matches were announced. just win saturday at st james!!!

That’s what Norwich said about Man City

 

[mookie1995]

That’s what Norwich said about Man City

Norwich whipped the toons in the opener

 

[Jimjamesak]

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Galaxy up on Sporting KC 7-2 right now. Sporks defense is really bad.

 

[Jimjamesak]

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Welp, the Iron Front flag mess is blowing up again.

Emerald City Supporters walked out at halftime after members were thrown out for flying an IF flag.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They just kicked out the head of gameday ops, made <a href="https://twitter.com/WeAreECS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WeAreECS</a> take down the iron front symbols which are up to support inclusion for our players from all over the world. This is a sad moment. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SoundersMatchday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SoundersMatchday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUnitedFront?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUnitedFront</a> <a href="https://t.co/7Ljomh2vzB">pic.twitter.com/7Ljomh2vzB</a></p>— Emily Cummings (@emilyrcummings) <a href="https://twitter.com/emilyrcummings/status/1173376674773139456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Also, fans got thrown out in Minnesota for flying IF flags.

 

[ticapnews]

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Soccer organizations all over the world: We will not tolerate racism! Our fans must support players of all races and religions!

Fans: fly unity flags to support players

Soccer orgs: Not like that!


Any mention that fans in other countries regularly display Fascist symbols? Hell, some clubs were founded by Fascists and still wave banners and chant Fascist slogans. But that's perfectly acceptable.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I hope this blows up right in the face of MLS and especially the trans.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Welp, the Iron Front flag mess is blowing up again.

Emerald City Supporters walked out at halftime after members were thrown out for flying an IF flag.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They just kicked out the head of gameday ops, made <a href="https://twitter.com/WeAreECS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WeAreECS</a> take down the iron front symbols which are up to support inclusion for our players from all over the world. This is a sad moment. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SoundersMatchday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SoundersMatchday</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUnitedFront?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUnitedFront</a> <a href="https://t.co/7Ljomh2vzB">pic.twitter.com/7Ljomh2vzB</a></p>— Emily Cummings (@emilyrcummings) <a href="https://twitter.com/emilyrcummings/status/1173376674773139456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Also, fans got thrown out in Minnesota for flying IF flags.

actually one person got thrown out for wearing a home made iron front snuggie

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Soccer organizations all over the world: We will not tolerate racism! Our fans must support players of all races and religions!

Fans: fly unity flags to support players

Soccer orgs: Not like that!


Any mention that fans in other countries regularly display Fascist symbols? Hell, some clubs were founded by Fascists and still wave banners and chant Fascist slogans. But that's perfectly acceptable.

Im not exactly sure how the Iron Front imagery is a "unity" flag? I do think this is a dumb hill to die on for MLS.

 

[ticapnews]

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Im not exactly sure how the Iron Front imagery is a "unity" flag? I do think this is a dumb hill to die on for MLS.

According to the tweet, the symbols are there "to support inclusion of our players from all over the world."


u·ni·ty
/ˈyo͞onədē/

noun
1.
the state of being united or joined as a whole.
"European unity"

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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According to the tweet, the symbols are there "to support inclusion of our players from all over the world."


u·ni·ty
/ˈyo͞onədē/

noun
1.
the state of being united or joined as a whole.
"European unity"

I understand the symbol myself but it's a symbol from a German paramilitary organization...not sure how any Paramilitary group could be considered "inclusive"

I stand with my fellow supporters in fighting this terrible language but I also question the symbol choice in some ways...

 

[Jimjamesak]

actually one person got thrown out for wearing a home made iron front snuggie

There seems to be some debate on that:

However, the Red Loons, a politically left-leaning supporters group, estimated 10 to 15 fans were escorted out of the stadium for this reason and said others walked out with them. A Red Loons spokesperson said “everyone was respectful to Allianz staff throughout.”

https://www.twincities.com/2019/09/...a-united-game-leads-to-at-least-one-ejection/

No offense, I’m not exactly believing MNUFC’s official take considering they have the harshest policy against the IF flag (not even allowing clothing with the image).

 

[Jimjamesak]

Soccer organizations all over the world: We will not tolerate racism! Our fans must support players of all races and religions!

Fans: fly unity flags to support players

Soccer orgs: Not like that!


Any mention that fans in other countries regularly display Fascist symbols? Hell, some clubs were founded by Fascists and still wave banners and chant Fascist slogans. But that's perfectly acceptable.

It’s important to remember that a lot of this started because NYCFC had far-right, fascist skinhead supporters groups causing trouble and NYCFC and the league refuse to do anything about it.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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There seems to be some debate on that:

https://www.twincities.com/2019/09/...a-united-game-leads-to-at-least-one-ejection/

No offense, I’m not exactly believing MNUFC’s official take considering they have the harshest policy against the IF flag (not even allowing clothing with the image).

No, I'm stating a fact...one person got thrown out for wearing a home made iron front snuggie. I'm not claiming they were the only person...I'm stating that one person took "personal clothing" is ok to an extreme and got kicked out for it when she refused to remove it. I've heard others gettig kicked out after refusing to remove shirts, which seems counter to what MNUFC stated to WW leadership earlier in the week...

 

[Jimjamesak]

No, I'm stating a fact...one person got thrown out for wearing a home made iron front snuggie. I'm not claiming they were the only person...I'm stating that one person took "personal clothing" is ok to an extreme and got kicked out for it when she refused to remove it. I've heard others gettig kicked out after refusing to remove shirts, which seems counter to what MNUFC stated to WW leadership earlier in the week...

One entity is saying one person, another is saying 10-15. It seems the facts are up for debate.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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One entity is saying one person, another is saying 10-15. It seems the facts are up for debate.

You're not listening to me...yes there is debate on how many people were kicked out. I'm talking specifically about ONE person, I'm not ignoring the other 10-15 people, just focusing my comments on one person.

 

[Jimjamesak]

You're not listening to me...yes there is debate on how many people were kicked out. I'm talking specifically about ONE person, I'm not ignoring the other 10-15 people, just focusing my comments on one person.

Ok, understood. You’re post was a little confusing to me.

 

[Jimjamesak]

I hope this blows up right in the face of MLS and especially the trans.

There’s an undercurrent in all of this that’s not being talked about: the players support of the fans in all of this.

The MLSPA has already come out against the policy:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The MLSPA supports the efforts of its fan/supporters' groups to overturn MLS's overly vague ban on "political" speech at MLS games. (1/2)</p>— MLSPA (@MLSPA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLSPA/status/1161256237775933441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But the biggest thing is that the CBA is up at the end of the year and the players could potentially strike. What’s the biggest thing any work action needs? Public support, in this case from the fans.

Well...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We stand <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WithOurBoys?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WithOurBoys</a> <a href="https://t.co/wG2jU91XBN">pic.twitter.com/wG2jU91XBN</a></p>— EmeraldCitySupporter (@WeAreECS) <a href="https://twitter.com/WeAreECS/status/1168258810722390016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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There’s an undercurrent in all of this that’s not being talked about: the players support of the fans in all of this.

The MLSPA has already come out against the policy:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The MLSPA supports the efforts of its fan/supporters' groups to overturn MLS's overly vague ban on "political" speech at MLS games. (1/2)</p>— MLSPA (@MLSPA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLSPA/status/1161256237775933441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

But the biggest thing is that the CBA is up at the end of the year and the players could potentially strike. What’s the biggest thing any work action needs? Public support, in this case from the fans.

Well...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We stand <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WithOurBoys?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WithOurBoys</a> <a href="https://t.co/wG2jU91XBN">pic.twitter.com/wG2jU91XBN</a></p>— EmeraldCitySupporter (@WeAreECS) <a href="https://twitter.com/WeAreECS/status/1168258810722390016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

that is very true...Soccer is different than other sports in america. This angle is part of what has made soccer special to me.

 

[Kepler]

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Opposition to Naziism is now controversial. Thanks, Republicans.