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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!
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Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
USA without Cristian Roldan in the game: Not winning.
USA with Cristian Roldan in the game: Winning.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Holy Forking Shirtballs it's 4!
Jimjamesak
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If it stays 4-1 we're in 3rd.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
4-1 win in Honduras.
Just like everyone drew it up.
Just like everyone drew it up.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
You can have all the young talent but you need vets as well. GGG Subs in Yedlin, Roldan, and Lletget and things turn around.
It looked like he was trying to throw the game with the way we lined up at kickoff. Credit for actually making changes early for once. That's all I have to say about him.
I can go the rest of my life without ever seeing Adams in a US jersey lined up on the wing. The kid *needs* to play through the middle.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Twellman never got many USMNT caps for a reason.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
He tried one gameplan (sit back and counter), it didn't work, he adjusted at halftime and they won.
Every sub he made had an impact on the game.
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I think something that has been lost but I mentioned before these games started - this roster has a # of key players that did not play during the summer successes. You can't just put 25+ guys together and expect them to immediately gel. This team is immensely talented and to expect them to come right out of the gate having figured that all out is unrealistic.
Their next 3 games will reveal more of what they - and Berhalter - are really all about.
Their next 3 games will reveal more of what they - and Berhalter - are really all about.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
This CBS studio crew is fantastic. Onyewu, Dempsey, and Davies are great together and Abdo is a fantastic host.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
There's gonna be some roster challenges. Jamaica and Costa Rica are home games but the Panama game is on the road and Panama is a Red List country so we not have certain players available for that one.
That's not really true. The only guy missing during Nations League was Adams.
At any rate, starting the qualifying campaign strong absolutely should be expected. You have over 2 years to make it happen. Showing up unprepared is a failure. Not necessarily an insurmountable failure, but a failure none the less.
I have seen these guys play and have a baseline for what they can do. I'm not interested in using half the qualifying schedule to learn what they or Berhalter are about. I'm interested in using it to...you know...qualify for the fucking World Cup.
They are still in position, even if it is more tenuous than it should be. 2nd half today was an enormous rescue. Absolutely must carry that 2nd half into the October window.
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Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
You’re glossing over a metric fuckton of factors.
a) Youth. Most of these players are still U23s and this is their first Qualifying campaign. CONCACAF has a steep learning curve and shows no mercy and cares not about who you play for.
b) Travel. This is the first time the majority of these players have had to deal with this kind of schedule. Fly in from Europe, have maybe two days to get ready before getting on a plane again to go to Central America, play, fly back, three days later play again, immediately travel again to play again. Jet lag is a mother fucker.
c) Conditions. These guys don’t play in 95%+ humidity on a field that looks worse than $2 pitch and putt course all the time.
People need to understand, just because they play in Europe on big teams does not mean they will be successful with the National Team in CONCACAF. John Brooks is a starting CB in the Bundesliga and was the worst player this window, with a guy from Barcelona on his heels. The guy from Juventus had to be sent home.
You know what 11 players scored four goals? 6 MLSers, a guy who plays in Austria, a guy who plays in Belgium, a guy who plays in Turkey, a guy in the Championship, and 1 solitary Bundesliga player.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
He probably didn’t watch…
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Everyone wants to blame Berhalter because no one wants to believe that our Golden Boys actually played like s—- this window.
Come on man. It's right there in the post. These games aren't the first time this group has played competitive matches together, and the point is that qualifying isn't the time to figure out what your team might be. That should be squared and sorted by now, and if it isn't there is a problem.
Yes Jim, clearly I haven't been watching : rolleyes :
Berhalter shoulders a lot of the blame for this near-catastrophe. Not sure where I said the players shoulder none. The El Salvador game was winnable as it was played, though there are legitimate questions about Berhalter's ability to convey and implement any kind of attacking tactics. The Canada game and today were set up for failure. As I already said, credit for actually making changes today before it was too late.
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