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World Soccer XXVIII: Campeones de NorteAmérica.

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Seattle beats Minnesota off two handling fouls (sorry folks, referee brain). Better lucky than dead I guess.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Seattle beats Minnesota off two handling fouls (sorry folks, referee brain). Better lucky than dead I guess.
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If this had been Portland you'd be hollering about cheating. ;)
 
Kepler said:
If this had been Portland you'd be hollering about cheating. ;)
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Actually this is definitely a case where VAR makes it a completely different experience. Normally you'd see a 93rd minute PK in a tied game and think "oh the ref is bailing this team out with a cheap PK." But with a VAR reviewing the call from every angle there is a lot less controversy.
 
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No idea about the methodology but this is awesome fun.
 
Kepler said:
No idea about the methodology but this is awesome fun.
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The methodology.

And yeah, it's immediately suspect:
All our significant changes are in how we assess the relative strength of domestic leagues. The goal was to improve our forecasts for the Champions League and Europa League and to better compare clubs in different countries — say, Juventus in Italy to Ajax in the Netherlands. We’re using recent matches played between teams from different leagues, supplemented with league market values (from Transfermarkt), to assign a strength rating to every league that we’re forecasting. Our new league ratings also give us the ability to a calculate a global Soccer Power Index (SPI) rating for each team — a number from 0 to 100 that represents the overall strength of each team.
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I'm sorry but it's very difficult to take at face value the ranking system between the leagues based on "each inter-league match from the past five years." What matches are we talking about here? Friendlies where both team sit their starters after 45 minutes and nobody plays seriously? Competitions like the CONCACAF CL where one team is in preseason and the other is in a month plus in season? Or the Club World Cup where it's a total crap shoot as to where teams are? Plus using Transfermarkt for player values, you a site where they basically guess values? Basically the system overweights top heavy Euro leagues and underrates competitive non-Euro leagues. The Dutch below Ecuador, Greece, Austria and Mexico? Denmark, Poland, and the Czech league are better than MLS? Russia is the sixth best league in the world? Plus no leagues from Asia? The Saudis, Qatar, the J-League, the CSL, the K-League, the A-League? Africa? Sorry but that is pretty bad.
 
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Aside from leagues that were omitted where in the list do you immediately start questioning the results?
 
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Slap Shot said:
Aside from leagues that were omitted where in the list do you immediately start questioning the results?
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I'm not sure exactly. But Southampton at 62 is a farce.
 
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Aside from leagues that were omitted where in the list do you immediately start questioning the results?
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Eibar at 31 is a good start, 10th place in La Liga last year and only in La Liga since 2014, ranked above Ajax, PSV, Marseille, Celtic, Lazio, and CSKA Moscow. That is a definite sign of overweighting leagues based on two to three teams.

Boba Juniors at 81 is the other, ranked below teams such as Augsburg, Leicester, Krasnodar, Stoke, and Burnley. That is a sign of not only overweighting leagues but also overweighting European versus non-European.
 
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We ain't going to Russia folks...
 
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First Time said:
Not looking good but ain't dead yet.
Have to win Tuesday.
1st time losing multiple at home qualifiers since 1958.
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If they finish 4th they still have the qualifier against Mongolia or Nepal or somebody, right?
 
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