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World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

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Kepler said:
I think it's a lot more straightforward than that.

Cancel Qatar --> Some Guy Loses Money --> That Guy Sues --> Discovery Phase --> Massive Bribery Scandal

Qatar obviously bribed FIFA officials. As long as those officials can control any investigation they get to keep the money and stay out of jail.
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Someone get the BBC on this. They love digging up dirt.
 
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Kepler said:
Are you an "ex"-King if you die in (or in this case, not in) the saddle? I always figured: Richard II: ex-king; Richard III: king.
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I think the minute you no longer hold the title, you're an ex.

Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn are both ex Queens of England. The only difference was the way they achieved their "ex" status.
 
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What's the reasoning behind, "FIFA hates the English and America"?
 
Slap Shot said:
What's the reasoning behind, "FIFA hates the English and America"?
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Mostly that people like to play the victim.

But it seems like both do get the shaft sometimes, so perhaps our collective sense of having genuinely better World Cup bids that got ignored for bids that quite likely had some greased palms behind them.
 
Slap Shot said:
What's the reasoning behind, "FIFA hates the English and America"?
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Well the English is pretty easy. FIFA hates the English because a) The rampant hooliganism in the 70's and 80's and b) English soccer is full of arrogant *tards.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Well the English is pretty easy. FIFA hates the English because a) The rampant hooliganism in the 70's and 80's and b) English soccer is full of arrogant *tards.
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That doesn't answer the question. What's the evidence those supposed reasons have manifested in FIFA jobbing English football? When did it start, has it been consistent, does it make economic sense...?
 
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Slap Shot said:
That doesn't answer the question. What's the evidence those supposed reasons have manifested in FIFA jobbing English football? When did it start, has it been consistent, does it make economic sense...?
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English have had better bids the last few times it was Europe's turn only to go with Germany (no problem with) and Russia (big problem). Plus, Platini has a distaste for the English after Heysel and continues to run down the EPL despite the money it makes.
 
MountieBoyOz said:
English have had better bids the last few times it was Europe's turn only to go with Germany (no problem with) and Russia (big problem). Plus, Platini has a distaste for the English after Heysel and continues to run down the EPL despite the money it makes.
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Don't most of you agree WC bidding is a sham dominated by under the table money? That could be more a function of money talks than, "Ah, screw you". And again how has FIFA "run down the EPL" in a manner that is inconsistent with other leagues? I'm looking for substance here Mr. Grassy Knoll. :)
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Well the English is pretty easy. FIFA hates the English because a) The rampant hooliganism in the 70's and 80's and b) English soccer is full of arrogant *tards.
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You forgot how the British Media loves to dig up dirt and exposing when FIFA members have been palmed greased to vote one way. It just happens to be a quincedence that they're all not voting for England when they find something. I'm sure the BBC would go over things with a fine tooth comb and make sure everything was on the up and up when the English win a World Cup Bid.
 
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I know people talk about the Qataris buying the Cup, but let's not forget the Russian oil money probably played a part in them getting 2018. I also think the points brought up earlier about not having to get new stadia or the Brits not willing to let FIFA get all the profits played a factor. I've also heard UEFA chief Platini despises England. (Even though he'd be on the Vichy France team if it were for England.) I still think the birthplace of soccer shouldn't have to go over 50 years between hosting the darn event.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
I know people talk about the Qataris buying the Cup, but let's not forget the Russian oil money probably played a part in them getting 2018. I also think the points brought up earlier about not having to get new stadia or the Brits not willing to let FIFA get all the profits played a factor. I've also heard UEFA chief Platini despises England. (Even though he'd be on the Vichy France team if it were for England.) I still think the birthplace of soccer shouldn't have to go over 50 years between hosting the darn event.
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Oh, I don't doubt that Russia bribed a few votes their way, but hell, Russia isn't quite a total clusterfunk of a location to hold the games. Weather wise its a much better climate there to hold the world cup. Its biggest problem logistically is that its so big and it has a lot of the venues they're using are all spread out all over the place. Then there's the political and terrorism issues there, but on the whole, they're not nearly as bad as what the Qatar bid is.

That and I wanted another World Cup here in my backyard, even if that meant a roadtrip to Chicago or some other place.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Now if Deadspin could punt this guy.

Not surprising. It's been going around for weeks. It'll take two years for a new ownership to rub the Chivas stink off anyway.
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I really don't get Deadspin's searing hatred of MLS. Do I think the Euro leagues are better? Yes, but I do enjoy watching it very much.
 
MountieBoyOz said:
I really don't get Deadspin's searing hatred of MLS. Do I think the Euro leagues are better? Yes, but I do enjoy watching it very much.
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Deadspin in general, but Haisley in particular is bad about MLS, and really for no good reason. He's the epitome of the Eurosnob, pro/rel knuckledragging, "I only started watching this sport in 2006" hipster *tard that drags the sport in this country down.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Deadspin in general, but Haisley in particular is bad about MLS, and really for no good reason. He's the epitome of the Eurosnob, pro/rel knuckledragging, "I only started watching this sport in 2006" hipster *tard that drags the sport in this country down.
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Why can't you like both? It's not that hard of a concept.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
Why can't you like both? It's not that hard of a concept.
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I do like both and I have no problem with people liking both. The problem is the people like Haisley who look at MLS as something beneath them and use every chance they get to degrade the league. Those people can go die in a fire.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
I do like both and I have no problem with people liking both. The problem is the people like Haisley who look at MLS as something beneath them and use every chance they get to degrade the league. Those people can go die in a fire.
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I didn't mean you in general. I meant the people at large. It's just silly that someone would take every shot he can just to be a hipster delta bravo. What a S****horpe. :D
 
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