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World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

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jmh said:
Well, I mean, the Premier League is a pretty big differentiator from what they had on Vs., no?
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But how long will that last?

NBC wanted to stay with MLS but wanted exclusivity. It seems MLS didn't want that.

It's a great time to be a sports property, so much competition.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Fair point. You could also add college hockey (not that that's much of an addition, other than for our needs), but that's pretty much it. It's otherwise still the same mix of small-scale eastern college football, cycling, F1, piddly college basketball and nature shows.
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NBC Sports is completely different from Versus as far as the outdoor hunting/fishing shows. Not much of that on NBC Sports now.
 
ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Good for FS1, bad for NBCSN. Probably good for ESPN, but I honestly don't give a **** what's good for ESPN.

I wonder what properties NBCSN needs to start looking at in the near future to help shore up what's starting to look too much like the old Vs. lineup.
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Best news is for MLS. $90 million a year, guaranteed time slots, 8 years. That's a pretty great deal.
 
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Oh, we know at least who the 3 Goalies for the World Cup are. So no mystery there.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Fair point. You could also add college hockey (not that that's much of an addition, other than for our needs), but that's pretty much it. It's otherwise still the same mix of small-scale eastern college football, cycling, F1, piddly college basketball and nature shows.
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OK, but they have two pretty major pro leagues in addition to all that other stuff. NBC in a broader sense also has a foothold in the NFL, and the Olympics of course. It's not a terrible portfolio.

Jimjamesak said:
Oh, we know at least who the 3 Goalies for the World Cup are. So no mystery there.
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Barring injury, didn't we pretty much already know that?
 
jmh said:
Barring injury, didn't we pretty much already know that?
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There was some question as to taking Rimando or Sean Johnson from DC.

On a useless trivia note, Rimando and Kyle Beckerman are two of last Miami Fusion players left in MLS.
 
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jmh said:
OK, but they have two pretty major pro leagues in addition to all that other stuff. NBC in a broader sense also has a foothold in the NFL, and the Olympics of course. It's not a terrible portfolio.
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Let's not forget they've got NASCAR. The races may be on NBC but I'm sure they'll have content relating to it.

It was probably a good move considering that ESPN likes to bury other sports that don't sign with them. (See NHL and soon to be NASCAR.) I do think NBC did a great job, but I think they made the mistake of the exclusivity rider.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
There was some question as to taking Rimando or Sean Johnson from DC.
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Was there? I thought it was generally accepted that Rimando was the #3 but I haven't been paying all that close attention so I might be mistaken.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
So I was reading SI's article about the first World Cup hattrick and had no idea about the caliber of the ASL or the "soccer wars." Makes it sound like FIFA and foreigners are to blame for the US not liking soccer until recently.

SI's article:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/longform/soccer-goals/goal10.html?mobile=no

Wiki on ASL: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Soccer_League_(1921-1933)
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What's sad is the people like the Cosmos and their zealots, the pro/rel zealots like TinfoilTed Westervelt, and even the NASL commissioner want something exactly like this nowadays. MLS is evil and ruining American soccer with their franchise system and salary cap and business model. And it's all a conspiracy because they control US Soccer.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
What's sad is the people like the Cosmos and their zealots, the pro/rel zealots like TinfoilTed Westervelt, and even the NASL commissioner want something exactly like this nowadays. MLS is evil and ruining American soccer with their franchise system and salary cap and business model. And it's all a conspiracy because they control US Soccer.
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so they're evil because they operate similar to every other major sport in America?
 
Shirtless Guy said:
so they're evil because they operate similar to every other major sport in America?
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Oops, I forgot the :rolleyes: .

Yeah it's what those crazies believe, not me. The MLS model is what has allowed the league to be where it is now: stable. That's more than any other league has achieved.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Oops, I forgot the :rolleyes: .

Yeah it's what those crazies believe, not me. The MLS model is what has allowed the league to be where it is now: stable. That's more than any other league has achieved.
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I think it would be very interesting to see a european style model here but you're right. The salary cap and the current structure are whats protecting MLS from its owners.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
I think it would be very interesting to see a european style model here but you're right. The salary cap and the current structure are whats protecting MLS from its owners.
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I agree and I certainly think, down the road, something like it is possible. The thing is that those people want it NOW! And MLS won't do it, so they must be destroyed! :rolleyes:
 
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Jimjamesak said:
I agree and I certainly think, down the road, something like it is possible. The thing is that those people want it NOW! And MLS won't do it, so they must be destroyed! :rolleyes:
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I don't see it ever happening here...not with franchise fees and the american sports structure. As great as it is at punishing bad teams, it just won't fly here. The owners have too much invested in things.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
I agree and I certainly think, down the road, something like it is possible. The thing is that those people want it NOW! And MLS won't do it, so they must be destroyed! :rolleyes:
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The only way to do pro/rel is to somehow incorporate it into a franchise structure. Like the EPL/FA system of "parachute payments", but on steroids. Even then, I don't think it'll ever work.
 
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