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World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

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Jimjamesak said:
TV market expansion. That MLS' plan right now.

The league is seeking a big TV deal coming up after this next season and they're making changes based on it.

Plus, they're supposedly making a southward expansion to have more warm weather cities so they can play a fall/winter schedule.

Supposedly.
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Arena football redux.

Edit: dilution of attention comes back to being an issue. Fact is that they haven't yet proven they are a stable league at the current configuration.

Maybe IHL would be a better comparison but you need to know it'll work when you are no longer one of a few but rather lost amongst many.
 
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Patman said:
Arena football redux.

Edit: dilution of attention comes back to being an issue. Fact is that they haven't yet proven they are a stable league at the current configuration.

Maybe IHL would be a better comparison but you need to know it'll work when you are no longer one of a few but rather lost amongst many.
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They're a stable league. MLS isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Take a look at the Forbes estimates of MLS team values. The attendance numbers certainly back that up as well as they average more per game than the NHL and NBA. The problem is needing to grow the TV numbers, the only thing they lack. Expanding the national footprint of the league is one way to help (and the league needs some southern presence) along with a good TV partner(s).

Now MLS isn't going to be lacking in TV partners or money. NBC, ESPN, FOX are all wanting rights plus Univision and Telemundo on the Spanish side plus TSN and others in Canada.

The market for soccer on TV is there, it's just getting MLS in it. Now NBC had better ratings for MLS games that followed EPL games and it's leading to speculation of a schedule change.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Yeah, but... a pro franchise in Florida. Not exactly the most sterling track record for consistent support. In any league in any sport.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that this rapid expansion is as foolish as the NHL's "We'll take anyone who can pay what we ask for Expansion Fees, so we can pocket some quick cash" strategy, but I'm starting to get a little unsure as to what the exact plan is for MLS. One has to think that the next set of plans must include some more in the southeast (Atlanta? Carolina? Who else, really?)
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I kind of wonder if they're looking to expand so much because they want to set up a second division of MLS and have promotion between the two levels. They get a lot of ownerships on board with that with their own stadiums to play in, it could be pulled off. You would have to think that the second division teams would still get the same TV shares they used to get when they was MLS squads up to 3 years if they haven't earned promotion back to the MLS. But having that second division level that could play its way up into the MLS would be pretty tempting for a lot more owners to want to try to play around with MLS. Probably would never be pulled off because of promotion, but heck, it would be as fun as hell.
 
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3 people were killed when part of a stadium being built for the World Cup collapsed this morning :(
 
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RaceBoarder said:
3 people were killed when part of a stadium being built for the World Cup collapsed this morning :(
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More details:

Part of the stadium that will host the World Cup opener in Brazil next year collapsed on Wednesday, causing significant damage and killing three people, authorities said.

The accident could delay the delivery of the stadium in Sao Paulo by FIFA’s December deadline to have all 12 venues ready. The Itaquerao Stadium was practically completed before the collapse.

Television images showed that a huge metal structure buckled atop the stadium, destroying part of the stands in the east side of the venue. A LED panel installed outside the venue also was hit.

Firefighter official Mauro Lopes said in a radio interview that at least three people died in the accident, which apparently happened when a crane collapsed on top of the metal structure.
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FIFA's new requirement that all future World Cups take place in 3rd world countries seems to have preordained this kind of thing.
 
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Red Cloud said:
FIFA's new requirement that all future World Cups take place in 3rd world countries seems to have preordained this kind of thing.
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"Should we look for a pre-existing infrastructure? Nah, let's rush building everything from scratch to meet a close deadline."
 
French Rage said:
"Should we look for a pre-existing infrastructure? Nah, let's rush building everything from scratch to meet a close deadline."
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"The United States and England both have plenty of pre-existing, suitable stadiums that require little investment thus guaranteeing large profit!"

"Yeah but those stadiums won't have my name on them..."
 
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goldy_331 said:
In Qatar the "guest workers" would have been carrying the section on their backs - no cranes to collapse.
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As well, a newsworthy day in Qatar would be NO "guest workers" being injured or killed.
 
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goldy_331 said:
In Qatar the "guest workers" would have been carrying the section on their backs - no cranes to collapse.
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In Qatar the story would have been about the loss of the metal structures and how the workers got their blood and guts all over them.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
I kind of wonder if they're looking to expand so much because they want to set up a second division of MLS and have promotion between the two levels. They get a lot of ownerships on board with that with their own stadiums to play in, it could be pulled off. You would have to think that the second division teams would still get the same TV shares they used to get when they was MLS squads up to 3 years if they haven't earned promotion back to the MLS. But having that second division level that could play its way up into the MLS would be pretty tempting for a lot more owners to want to try to play around with MLS. Probably would never be pulled off because of promotion, but heck, it would be as fun as hell.
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This makes the most sense. Would they have to get 28 to 30 clubs to sign up or more?
 
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Jimjamesak said:
The market for soccer on TV is there, it's just getting MLS in it. Now NBC had better ratings for MLS games that followed EPL games and it's leading to speculation of a schedule change.
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Don't you think 11AM or 1PM MLS games after EPL?
 
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Jimjamesak said:
That is preferred but if the ownership controls the stadium then they're ok with it.

The Atlanta stadium is being designed so there's a second roof for just the lower bowl like Vancouver so that's why it's being considered.
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Great idea but don't you think the cost would go way up? In Minnesota they are sadly not going to have a retractable roof. Personally I would rather Minnesota United fc to find a way to build an outdoor stadium south west of the new Twins ballpark. There's an opening for a building.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
TV market expansion. That MLS' plan right now.

The league is seeking a big TV deal coming up after this next season and they're making changes based on it.

Plus, they're supposedly making a southward expansion to have more warm weather cities so they can play a fall/winter schedule.

Supposedly.
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I don't know how I feel about the rumors of MLS changing their schedule. Not that I don't think it would work more like how would it potentially effect the northern climates like Minneapolis or Boston. MLS would likely have to take a 4 to 6 week break at the height of winter. For example, the Revs could play until mid December and coming back the first week of Feb starting on the road for two weeks before coming back to Boston. It is going to be interesting.
 
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