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World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

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Based on results so far the following are guaranteed a seed:

Brazil (host), Argentina, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, and Belgium


Other options for seeds
Colombia is seeded if they beat Paraguay today
Uruguay is seeded if they beat Argentina and qualify for the World Cup
Switzerland is seeded if Colombia doesn't win or Uruguay doesn't win today or Uruguay fails to qualify
Italy is seeded if both Colombia and Uruguay don't win today or if Colombia loses and Uruguay fails to qualify
Someone on Reddit used FIFA's ranking calculator and came up with the following:
Brazil is in as host while Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, and Switzerland all get Top 7 spots.

Uruguay is currently in 6th but needs to beat Jordan to qualify.

If, by some miracle that doesn't happen, Italy and the Netherlands each have 1136 points for 8th and apparently the Dutch are 0.3 points ahead of Italy.
 
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Apparently this the english language translation of the call of the games on Mexican TV:

"GOOOOAAAAAAL The US of A PUTS us in the playoff!!!!!" USA!

"It is because of the USA that we are being placed in the playoff ...BECAUSE OF THEM , NOT DUE TO YOU..NOT ANY OF YOU in the green shirts ....IT WAS THEM!!.NOT YOU!..THEY DID IT!!!!!NOT YOU! remember this forever..... KEEP THIS CLEARLY IN MIND FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES! You do NOTHING for the shirt, you do NOT put the effort, you have NOT placed us in the playoffs , you HAVE NOT placed us in the WORLD CUP ..YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT US ALIVE....IT WAS ESTADOS UNIDOS, NOT YOU.! .NOT YOU AND YOUR ARROGANCE/CONCEIT.....NOT YOU AND YOUR INFAMY....NOT YOU AND YOUR MORONS/PUNKS....
....
"IT IS A FAILURE.....and UNDESERVED -to go through to the playoff- WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS to earn the playoffs, THE USA, WITH SUBS , WITH MANY SUBS as the visiting team shows us once again what the USA is all about ....how to play the game with dignity, how to approach the sport..MExico is a horror, just terrible....A FAILURE....
......
THE USA HAS SURPASSED US ..They are better than Mexico in SOCCER ....THEY EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY OF PLAYING THEIR SUBS and KEEPING US ALIVE.... I hope our coach wears the pants and resigns..He has failed as coach...."
 
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Brazil is in as host while Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, and Switzerland all get Top 7 spots.

Uruguay is currently in 6th but needs to beat Jordan to qualify.
This implies that assuming Uruguay wins their playoff, the Top 8 is a 4/4 UEFA/CONMEBOL.

The remaining teams by confederation:
UEFA - 9
CONCACAF - 3.5
AFC - 4
CAF - 5
OFC - 0.5
CONMEBOL - 2

I'd guess that CONCACAF gets in a pot of 8, teaming with either AFC or CAF depending on Mexico's result with New Zealand.

And, of course, there can't be 3 UEFA teams in any single group, so everyone hoping for Spain, France, England, and somebody will be disappointed. But, Brazil, Portugal, Netherlands, and US isn't out of the picture. Would that be the Group of Death? That feels like the GoD.
 
Apparently this the english language translation of the call of the games on Mexican TV:

"GOOOOAAAAAAL The US of A PUTS us in the playoff!!!!!" USA!

"It is because of the USA that we are being placed in the playoff ...BECAUSE OF THEM , NOT DUE TO YOU..NOT ANY OF YOU in the green shirts ....IT WAS THEM!!.NOT YOU!..THEY DID IT!!!!!NOT YOU! remember this forever..... KEEP THIS CLEARLY IN MIND FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES! You do NOTHING for the shirt, you do NOT put the effort, you have NOT placed us in the playoffs , you HAVE NOT placed us in the WORLD CUP ..YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT US ALIVE....IT WAS ESTADOS UNIDOS, NOT YOU.! .NOT YOU AND YOUR ARROGANCE/CONCEIT.....NOT YOU AND YOUR INFAMY....NOT YOU AND YOUR MORONS/PUNKS....
....
"IT IS A FAILURE.....and UNDESERVED -to go through to the playoff- WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS to earn the playoffs, THE USA, WITH SUBS , WITH MANY SUBS as the visiting team shows us once again what the USA is all about ....how to play the game with dignity, how to approach the sport..MExico is a horror, just terrible....A FAILURE....
......
THE USA HAS SURPASSED US ..They are better than Mexico in SOCCER ....THEY EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY OF PLAYING THEIR SUBS and KEEPING US ALIVE.... I hope our coach wears the pants and resigns..He has failed as coach...."

Really? That's beautiful.
 
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What the ****? What the **** were we doing? Zusi is dead to me. Dead.
 
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

Apparently this the english language translation of the call of the games on Mexican TV:

"GOOOOAAAAAAL The US of A PUTS us in the playoff!!!!!" USA!

"It is because of the USA that we are being placed in the playoff ...BECAUSE OF THEM , NOT DUE TO YOU..NOT ANY OF YOU in the green shirts ....IT WAS THEM!!.NOT YOU!..THEY DID IT!!!!!NOT YOU! remember this forever..... KEEP THIS CLEARLY IN MIND FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES! You do NOTHING for the shirt, you do NOT put the effort, you have NOT placed us in the playoffs , you HAVE NOT placed us in the WORLD CUP ..YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT US ALIVE....IT WAS ESTADOS UNIDOS, NOT YOU.! .NOT YOU AND YOUR ARROGANCE/CONCEIT.....NOT YOU AND YOUR INFAMY....NOT YOU AND YOUR MORONS/PUNKS....
....
"IT IS A FAILURE.....and UNDESERVED -to go through to the playoff- WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS to earn the playoffs, THE USA, WITH SUBS , WITH MANY SUBS as the visiting team shows us once again what the USA is all about ....how to play the game with dignity, how to approach the sport..MExico is a horror, just terrible....A FAILURE....
......
THE USA HAS SURPASSED US ..They are better than Mexico in SOCCER ....THEY EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY OF PLAYING THEIR SUBS and KEEPING US ALIVE.... I hope our coach wears the pants and resigns..He has failed as coach...."

It probably sounded even better in Spanish :p
 
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This implies that assuming Uruguay wins their playoff, the Top 8 is a 4/4 UEFA/CONMEBOL.

The remaining teams by confederation:
UEFA - 9
CONCACAF - 3.5
AFC - 4
CAF - 5
OFC - 0.5
CONMEBOL - 2

I'd guess that CONCACAF gets in a pot of 8, teaming with either AFC or CAF depending on Mexico's result with New Zealand.

And, of course, there can't be 3 UEFA teams in any single group, so everyone hoping for Spain, France, England, and somebody will be disappointed. But, Brazil, Portugal, Netherlands, and US isn't out of the picture. Would that be the Group of Death? That feels like the GoD.
****, I grabbed the wrong number on Netherlands...the reddit person is correct, Swiss have 1138, while Netherlands and Italy have 1136 after yesterday's matches.
As for the group of death, Brazil, Netherlands, Portugal is impossible if they break off the last placed UEFA country into a special pot like they did with Serbia & Montenegro in 2006. Neither Portugal nor Netherlands can be the last placed UEFA team. Although I suppose that depends on what rankings they use to determine that...if it all falls on the October 2013 rankings or not?
 
Re: World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

Apparently this the english language translation of the call of the games on Mexican TV:

"GOOOOAAAAAAL The US of A PUTS us in the playoff!!!!!" USA!

"It is because of the USA that we are being placed in the playoff ...BECAUSE OF THEM , NOT DUE TO YOU..NOT ANY OF YOU in the green shirts ....IT WAS THEM!!.NOT YOU!..THEY DID IT!!!!!NOT YOU! remember this forever..... KEEP THIS CLEARLY IN MIND FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES! You do NOTHING for the shirt, you do NOT put the effort, you have NOT placed us in the playoffs , you HAVE NOT placed us in the WORLD CUP ..YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT US ALIVE....IT WAS ESTADOS UNIDOS, NOT YOU.! .NOT YOU AND YOUR ARROGANCE/CONCEIT.....NOT YOU AND YOUR INFAMY....NOT YOU AND YOUR MORONS/PUNKS....
....
"IT IS A FAILURE.....and UNDESERVED -to go through to the playoff- WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS to earn the playoffs, THE USA, WITH SUBS , WITH MANY SUBS as the visiting team shows us once again what the USA is all about ....how to play the game with dignity, how to approach the sport..MExico is a horror, just terrible....A FAILURE....
......
THE USA HAS SURPASSED US ..They are better than Mexico in SOCCER ....THEY EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY OF PLAYING THEIR SUBS and KEEPING US ALIVE.... I hope our coach wears the pants and resigns..He has failed as coach...."

Awesome!
 
Apparently this the english language translation of the call of the games on Mexican TV:

"GOOOOAAAAAAL The US of A PUTS us in the playoff!!!!!" USA!

"It is because of the USA that we are being placed in the playoff ...BECAUSE OF THEM , NOT DUE TO YOU..NOT ANY OF YOU in the green shirts ....IT WAS THEM!!.NOT YOU!..THEY DID IT!!!!!NOT YOU! remember this forever..... KEEP THIS CLEARLY IN MIND FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES! You do NOTHING for the shirt, you do NOT put the effort, you have NOT placed us in the playoffs , you HAVE NOT placed us in the WORLD CUP ..YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT US ALIVE....IT WAS ESTADOS UNIDOS, NOT YOU.! .NOT YOU AND YOUR ARROGANCE/CONCEIT.....NOT YOU AND YOUR INFAMY....NOT YOU AND YOUR MORONS/PUNKS....
....
"IT IS A FAILURE.....and UNDESERVED -to go through to the playoff- WE HAD NO ARGUMENTS to earn the playoffs, THE USA, WITH SUBS , WITH MANY SUBS as the visiting team shows us once again what the USA is all about ....how to play the game with dignity, how to approach the sport..MExico is a horror, just terrible....A FAILURE....
......
THE USA HAS SURPASSED US ..They are better than Mexico in SOCCER ....THEY EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY OF PLAYING THEIR SUBS and KEEPING US ALIVE.... I hope our coach wears the pants and resigns..He has failed as coach...."
There's a video on YouTube.
 
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I know it is not a popular opinion but two good things. One is the US won't ever lay down no matter if it kills our biggest rivals. Two is as much as everyone hates it, the US and Mexico are the top teams in CONCACAF, the better both teams do the better a chance CONCACAF has to keep 3+ spots for the World Cup.

More importantly, the better our chance to improve the abomination of a "confederation coefficient" that goes into our FIFA rankings.
 
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****, I grabbed the wrong number on Netherlands...the reddit person is correct, Swiss have 1138, while Netherlands and Italy have 1136 after yesterday's matches.
As for the group of death, Brazil, Netherlands, Portugal is impossible if they break off the last placed UEFA country into a special pot like they did with Serbia & Montenegro in 2006. Neither Portugal nor Netherlands can be the last placed UEFA team. Although I suppose that depends on what rankings they use to determine that...if it all falls on the October 2013 rankings or not?
You're right. I thought for a second that they would just draw two UEFA teams consecutively, instead of putting the 9th ranked team in their own pot, which makes a lot more sense.
 
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Nope. They'll be down 4-1 after the first leg, then score 6 goals in stoppage time of a 6-2 victory in the second leg to advance to Brazil, where they will get to the semifinals.

In the meantime, the Cardinals will win the World Series, the Manning family will get another Super Bowl MVP, Texas A&M will play Oregon for the NCAA national championship and LeBron will win the Masters. Because that's what the sports world does to you, it kicks you in the ****ing groin whenever it wants to.
I think it would have to be Brady, not the Mannings, in your nightmare scenario, but otherwise that's pretty much what I'm expecting.

In other news: Graham Zusi is still dead to me.
 
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I think it would have to be Brady, not the Mannings, in your nightmare scenario, but otherwise that's pretty much what I'm expecting.

In other news: Graham Zusi is still dead to me.
Yup, that makes sense...because we'd rather lose a match because we want to hurt our arch rival than actually win a match and show that on the road we can win with subs. Graham Zusi is just doing his job, trying to prove he deserves to go to Brazil. I'm sure Jurgen Klinsmann wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Never giving up, even in a meaningless game to us is far more important to me than Mexico not qualifying. They still have to show up against New Zealand and even if they do, we can hang this one over their heads for a very long time.
 
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Yup, that makes sense...because we'd rather lose a match because we want to hurt our arch rival than actually win a match and show that on the road we can win with subs. Graham Zusi is just doing his job, trying to prove he deserves to go to Brazil. I'm sure Jurgen Klinsmann wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Never giving up, even in a meaningless game to us is far more important to me than Mexico not qualifying. They still have to show up against New Zealand and even if they do, we can hang this one over their heads for a very long time.
You're far too positive to understand my black, cynical, miserable heart. :p
 
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You're far too positive to understand my black, cynical, miserable heart. :p
I was loving the 2-1 Panama lead as much as anyone but I can't fault the US for fighting back and playing to the end. I would have loved to see Panama continue it's quest for it's first World Cup appearance but oh well. I can't hate Zusi, especially not after breaking the scoreless tie in Kansas City that made all that driving last friday worth it.
 
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