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World Soccer XXIV: The Road to Rio

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Red Cloud said:
That's racist.

No, seriously. That's almost certainly the official FIFA response on that.

USA all but guaranteed a group of death unless we get a few upsets in the play-ins. I'm rooting for Iceland, Romania, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Cameroon, Egypt, Algeria, and New Zealand. That last one has no bearing on our draw whatsoever but it's my favorite.
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Egypt needs to win 5-0 or by 6 goals.
 
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I dont know how many match days are allowed or how many they're trying to get away with... If CONCACAF does anything is it weeds out the minnows in a way that keeps the minnows more or less happy (I think?).

They used to do knockout matches to the 12 team stage and groups there on out. Now there's a previous RR-round.

The question is how fast do you shrink and do you auto-advance any pot tiers. I'm sure I could come up with some complicated options, but I think you should at least have two groups of four or some variant in there... 1 of 6... 2 of 3 w a playoff.

Looking at quals and final its interesting that you get a long term measure to determine who is in and then its basically a sprint.

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I dunno... goal is 5 from 51. I like diving things into twos unless something's obvious. Now, if we're trying to ditch the minnows for the sake of their economies I would think to have at least one or two rounds of knockouts... say if you have 4 Pools of "16" then Pool 4 plays pool 3 with the winner to play pool 2 in home-home ties.

That takes you to 32. 8 groups of 4, advance the group winners. 2 groups of 4, playoff of 3rd place teams.

Another possibility, should one take it this way, is to get down to 16 somehow, 4 groups of 4 advance the top team directly to the world cup... and then a double-RR amongst the 4 second place squads.
 
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Patman said:
I dont know how many match days are allowed or how many they're trying to get away with... If CONCACAF does anything is it weeds out the minnows in a way that keeps the minnows more or less happy (I think?).

They used to do knockout matches to the 12 team stage and groups there on out. Now there's a previous RR-round.

The question is how fast do you shrink and do you auto-advance any pot tiers. I'm sure I could come up with some complicated options, but I think you should at least have two groups of four or some variant in there... 1 of 6... 2 of 3 w a playoff.

Looking at quals and final its interesting that you get a long term measure to determine who is in and then its basically a sprint.

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I dunno... goal is 5 from 51. I like diving things into twos unless something's obvious. Now, if we're trying to ditch the minnows for the sake of their economies I would think to have at least one or two rounds of knockouts... say if you have 4 Pools of "16" then Pool 4 plays pool 3 with the winner to play pool 2 in home-home ties.

That takes you to 32. 8 groups of 4, advance the group winners. 2 groups of 4, playoff of 3rd place teams.

Another possibility, should one take it this way, is to get down to 16 somehow, 4 groups of 4 advance the top team directly to the world cup... and then a double-RR amongst the 4 second place squads.
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I'd look at Asia's qualifying structure as a better example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(AFC)

So what I would do for Africa, assuming all 53 teams enter, I would have the bottom 16 do two-leg playoffs, 8 winners plus the next 32 ranked teams into 10 groups of 4, top 2 in each group advance plus top 5 ranked teams, 25 teams into 5 groups of 5, top 2 in each advance to final round, final round is 10 teams into 2 groups of 5, top 2 in each group qualify directly, 3rd place teams playoff for final spot.
 
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Monday is a big day for UEFA, and the World Cup. The match ups for their 4 remaining spots will be drawn.

Portugal, Greece, Croatia, Ukraine in one pot
France, Sweden, Romania, Iceland in the other.
 
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pirate said:
Always been a big fan of Burkina Faso, she was great in that movie with what's his name about the thing with the boat.
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:p:D:D I only follow the Stallions because my wife spent significant time there growing up. The African Cup of Nations run was a lot of fun to watch, and they've been on a rollercoaster throughout the qualifying campaign. They've had more drama to get where they are at than Mexico!

Red Cloud said:
Like I'm really paying attention to what's happening in Africa. I'm not Bill Gates.
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I was just making a simple correction to help you determine your rooting interests. ;) :p:D:D
 
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The draw for the UEFA second round is complete and we now know all the matchups that will determine the final 11 spots to the 2014 World Cup:

Portugal vs Sweden
Ukraine vs France
Greece vs Romania
Iceland vs Croatia

Jordan vs Uruguay
Mexico vs New Zealand

Ivory Coast vs Senegal (3-1)
Ethiopia vs Nigeria (1-2)
Tunisia vs Cameroon (0-0)
Ghana vs Egypt (6-1)
Burkina Faso vs Alegeria (3-2)

*Home team for first leg is listed first.
 
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With the intercontinental matchups known, looking at the #s, the only real way things get messed up is if Jordan and Mexico win.

Then you have 4 UEFA/3 CONMEBOL seeded, 8 UEFA left over and no good way to break up AFC (5), CAF (5), CONCACAF (4), CONMEBOL (2).
Otherwise things either break up nicely into 8s or you either do a 9 team pot for UEFA or break off the lowest ranked into a special pot (I'm sure they'll do the special pot if Iceland wins).
I think its pretty much guaranteed that CONCACAF and AFC will be in the same pot along with New Zealand if they end up winning so we likely have no chance of ending up in a group with New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran, or Jordan.

Of the seeded teams, I think the US would have to be happy to draw Switzerland or Colombia (maybe not since its in South America?)? Of the unseeded UEFA group, we'd like to avoid Netherlands and Italy?

In the CONMEBOL/CAF group, it would be nice to get some retribution with Ghana but I'd rather just avoid them, probably be best to draw one of the less accomplished African nations than dance with a CONMEBOL team in Brazil, although without the altitude, we should be able to take Ecuador or Chile most days.

Thoughts?
 
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Can I start the campaign for HAWKEYE or whatever system there is now :p
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Can I start the campaign for HAWKEYE or whatever system there is now :p
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They have HawkEye in the EPL and GoalControl (German company) will be used at the World Cup.

I guess Germany is slower than FIFA to implement something made within their own borders. Never expected I'd say that
 
burgie12 said:
They have HawkEye in the EPL and GoalControl (German company) will be used at the World Cup.

I guess Germany is slower than FIFA to implement something made within their own borders. Never expected I'd say that
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Except it's ultimately up to the referee whether it's a goal or not, technology or not. I know in that situation I'd be thinking "I know it's gone in the net" and trusting my instinct over technology.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Except it's ultimately up to the referee whether it's a goal or not, technology or not. I know in that situation I'd be thinking "I know it's gone in the net" and trusting my instinct over technology.
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Generally I'd agree, except that in this particular case the referee was standing on the same side of the net as the player. He should have seen the ball cross in front of the goal post.
 
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