World Soccer XVIII: A New Season

[Shirtless Guy]

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Seeing as he is less of a "traitor" than a victim of rampant xenophobia, I blame plenty of people other than Movsisyan for this one.

rampant xenophobia? interesting...more like a broken immigration system

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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rampant xenophobia? interesting...more like a broken immigration system

It's not so much "broken" as "it frequently takes a long time and some people just don't have the patience or time for it".

In either case, I would also be curious to know how xenophobia somehow fits into the equation.

 

[blockski]

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It's not so much "broken" as "it frequently takes a long time and some people just don't have the patience or time for it".

In either case, I would also be curious to know how xenophobia somehow fits into the equation.

Right. And however broken it may be, it doesn't simply change on a whim for athletes who want to compete under a different flag.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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It's not so much "broken" as "it frequently takes a long time and some people just don't have the patience or time for it".

In either case, I would also be curious to know how xenophobia somehow fits into the equation.

Should it really take that long for someone that came here seeking asylum at the age of 13-16 and graduated from an american high school?

 

[AMC]

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It's not so much "broken" as "it frequently takes a long time and some people just don't have the patience or time for it".

In either case, I would also be curious to know how xenophobia somehow fits into the equation.

Because a climate of fear and populism has made it take longer to become American than it did 15 years ago, and any move to liberalize treatment of immigrants or applicants creates cries of terrorism and anti-Americanism.

But whatever. I would like to thank the audio guy in Zagreb for playing "In Your Eyes" three times back to back during halftime.

 

[blockski]

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Because a climate of fear and populism has made it take longer to become American than it did 15 years ago, and any move to liberalize treatment of immigrants or applicants creates cries of terrorism and anti-Americanism.

But whatever. I would like to thank the audio guy in Zagreb for playing "In Your Eyes" three times back to back during halftime.

Well, no real argument there - I thought you were talking about xenophobia in this specific case, as if Yura had been targeted or something...

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Because a climate of fear and populism has made it take longer to become American than it did 15 years ago, and any move to liberalize treatment of illegal immigrants or applicants creates cries of terrorism and anti-Americanism.

But whatever. I would like to thank the audio guy in Zagreb for playing "In Your Eyes" three times back to back during halftime.

FYP

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Should it really take that long for someone that came here seeking asylum at the age of 13-16 and graduated from an american high school?

I'm not too clear on the rules when it comes to granting refugees asylum, but I was under the impression that you weren't necessarily granting citizenship when you do so.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I'm not too clear on the rules when it comes to granting refugees asylum, but I was under the impression that you weren't necessarily granting citizenship when you do so.

What I'm saying is the guy is 23 now, went to high school here, which means he should know his american history, and he moved to america 8-10 years ago. How long should this process really take?

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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What I'm saying is the guy is 23 now, went to high school here, which means he should know his american history, and he move to america 8-10 years ago. How long should this process really take?

Fair point.

8-10 years of legal residency is more than enough to let someone take the test.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Fair point.

8-10 years of legal residency is more than enough to let someone take the test.

Is the USA more stringent on what is required to qualify to play for our national team?

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Is the USA more stringent on what is required to qualify to play for our national team?

I was under the impression that you needed to be a citizen.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I was under the impression that you needed to be a citizen.

Its just other countries define citizenship far more liberally than America?

 

[Red Cloud]

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Scotland 0-1 Liechtenstein 2nd half

No, you're not reading that score from Hampden Park wrong.

 

[AMC]

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Its just other countries define citizenship far more liberally than America?

They just don't have as many hoops to jump through.

Czech Republic 0 - Lithuania 1 (Final).

 

[AMC]

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FT Croatia 0 - Greece 0.

FT Norway 1 - Portugal 0.

Scotland equalized against Liechtenstein.

France just took the lead in the second half through Benzima in Bosnia.

 

[jmh]

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They just don't have as many hoops to jump through.

How so? I mean, the essence of it is that you have to be a legal permanent resident for five years, right? Why wasn't Movsisyan eligible, I may have missed that part. Basically the same as in Sweden (picked at random), for example.

Also: Go Norway!

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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How so? I mean, the essence of it is that you have to be a legal permanent resident for five years, right? Why wasn't Movsisyan eligible, I may have missed that part. Basically the same as in Sweden (picked at random), for example.

Also: Go Norway!

Well he did move to the danish superliga but that was earlier this year...

 

[AMC]

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How so? I mean, the essence of it is that you have to be a legal permanent resident for five years, right? Why wasn't Movsisyan eligible, I may have missed that part. Basically the same as in Sweden (picked at random), for example.

Also: Go Norway!

Maybe sheer volume is an issue, but you are eligible to APPLY after 5 years as a legal permanent resident. However, it can still take years after you apply to hear back.

 

[jmh]

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Maybe sheer volume is an issue, but you are eligible to APPLY after 5 years as a legal permanent resident. However, it can still take years after you apply to hear back.

Ah, I suppose that's true. I guess there probably is a long backlog, like there is at many government agencies.