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World Soccer XVI: The Sadness

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GreatLakerMohawk said:
Ridiculous. The turnover, followed by the immediate reckless play did that in. Of course, he shouldn't have started in the first place. Typical US soccer nonsense being done in with poor management choices.
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A couple questions for those who know more about US soccer than me...

1. To me, it's about consistency and building. I thought Bruce Arena was the guy until our poor showing in 2006. Bob Bradley has taken us to the Confederations Cup Final and round of 16. Seems to me like we're way ahead of where we thought we were four years ago. While disappointed today, I am happy to at least make the knockout stage. How do we build on that and avoid a '98/'06 repeat? Does Bradley stay on as coach? My guess is yes, but there are some pretty bright soccer minds outside the United States...

2. We allegedly have one of the top keepers in the world and IMO have a pretty good mix at midfield with Bradley, Donovan, and Dempsey. Personally, I love a lot of the work Altidore does, but seems we're lacking a true, pure striker. Finally, the defense is a problem. Simply not good enough or consistent enough. Any rising stars? You can't make a habit of falling behind at this level and expect to answer the bell each time.
 
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Serious question to those in the know: How much of a difference could Davies have made were he available?
 
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XYZ said:
Serious question to those in the know: How much of a difference could Davies have made were he available?
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He and Altidore were a potent attack combo. One speedster and one big power striker. They worked very well together and were lethal during the CONCACAF tournament.

The US just never had that presence at forward opposite Altidore IMHO and it servely limited their chances at scoring for a team that wasn't exactly earthshattering at putting balls in the back of the net.

Teams were able to focus their efforts on frustrating and taking Altidore out the equation and IMHO, every team was very successful in this task in A. Altidore never scored and B. He was ghost out there for long periods of time.

Is the US in the Quarterfinals with him? Perhaps...I think the US would have been a much more confident bunch in their strikers if Davies was indeed in there and thus Altidore would have been more effective as well.

I think a healthy Davies and a healthy Onweyu and you could easily have seen this team in the semifinals with the draw they had.

Look at what they did in the Confederations Cup when the team was healthy...They were a very dangerous counterattacking team and Onyewu was a force on the back line and Davies was the guy that stretched the other team's defense and wore them out.

It's too bad that we'll never know what could have been. It's sad all those injuries piled up on that team and they certainly had an effect. This was a good team that was missing two of their better players that could have made them great.

Not Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Argentina great on paper. But at least capable of playing with those teams and with the right bounce of the ball, beating those teams.
 
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Just saw a segment on reactions from Ghana on Euronews and, basically, it's hard to be all that sad. Millions of people with nothing get a huge thrill in something they really care about, and a morale boost that will last weeks. It's not like losing to the Swiss.
 
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Kepler said:
Just saw a segment on reactions from Ghana on Euronews and, basically, it's hard to be all that sad. Millions of people with nothing get a huge thrill in something they really care about, and a morale boost that will last weeks. It's not like losing to the Swiss.
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Eh, F' that. My mom said the same thing about the Gold Medal game at the Olympics when Canada won. Sorry, but just because others are happy doesn't mean I now like my country losing.
 
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Puck Swami said:
There are 200+ nations playing in FIFA. Some big, some small, some rich and others with intermittent electricity. To be in the top 16 (in the top 5% of soccer playing nations) is a good result.
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Nope, sorry, don't buy that. It's a decent result, but it's not good enough. The US is better than Ghana, and should have shown it yesterday. They didn't, and heads need to roll.

Kepler said:
Just saw a segment on reactions from Ghana on Euronews and, basically, it's hard to be all that sad. Millions of people with nothing get a huge thrill in something they really care about, and a morale boost that will last weeks. It's not like losing to the Swiss.
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Yes, because no in America really cares about it.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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So we are going to England in the fall, and my wife called a B&B there about an hour ago to make our reservations. The conversation went something like this:

"Can I speak to the owner."
"Sorry, he's not in right now. Madam, are you aware of what's going on here right now?"
"Um, no? Lunch?"
"I suggest you ask your husband."

I told her she is not likely to get in touch with anybody there for at least 3 hours. :p
 
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Kepler said:
So we are going to England in the fall, and my wife called a B&B there about an hour ago to make our reservations. The conversation went something like this:

"Can I speak to the owner."
"Sorry, he's not in right now. Madam, are you aware of what's going on here right now?"
"Um, no? Lunch?"
"I suggest you ask your husband."

I told her she is not likely to get in touch with anybody there for at least 3 hours. :p
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Hahahaha awesome. This kind of reminds me of the last post in the Winter Olympics thread.
 
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Kepler said:
You were appalled at the notion of sympathizing with another country's people's happiness. That's lovely.
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No, I wasn't. I get that winning at sport makes the Ghanaian people happy. Wonderful.

However, that doesn't make my disappointment as an American fan one iota less.
 
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Soccer might actually be fun to watch when there are 2 decent teams playing

Might be nice to have replay also
 
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