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World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
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Spartanforlife4
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Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Or not. Let that one get away.
Or not. Let that one get away.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Alternately, they should never be permitted to play there until they take it. Like the Cup.
Alternately, they should never be permitted to play there until they take it. Like the Cup.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
The GEICO soccer slide commercial is so dumb it's awesome.
The GEICO soccer slide commercial is so dumb it's awesome.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
The VAR standard has actually seemed pretty high in comparison to MLS and other leagues like the Bundesliga and Serie A in that a few things that would be sent for OFR (On Field Review) haven’t.
Also, Dr. Joe is an idiot.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
That’s true for a lot of their commercials.
That’s true for a lot of their commercials.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
And now that we're in the thick of things I can do this post...
Hello! It's your friendly neighborhood USCHO Soccer Referee! Are you new to soccer and have questions? Great! Are you not new but have no clue but act like you totally do? SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform! (You call it offsides I bet.) Well, I'm here to help!
First off here's a link to the Laws Of The Game. Why "The Laws" and not rules? Because it was written by Brits and they have a lovely way with overly official sounding language. Example: A shootout is not a shootout, it's "Kicks From The (Penalty) Mark" or KFTM or Kicks (technically it's "Kicks From The Mark used as procedure to determine the winner of a match")
"What's this VAR thing?" VAR, or Video Assistant Referee, is a referee that's in a replay room with a bank of monitors with every camera angle available reviewing things in the match while also being to talk with the referee crew via their audio headsets. In the World Cup he'll assisted by up to 3 AVAR, Assistant Video Assistant Referees (*ing Brits) as well.
"What does the VAR review?" From the Laws:
"Offsides?" Ok first off, it's Offside. No extra "s". Basically, the second to last defending player (given the position of the goalkeeper it's usually the last defender but this can be different at times especially on things like corner kicks) is the blue line, or the ball is the blue line if the ball is closer to the end line. If any attacker has any part of their body, except their arms, past the blue line when the ball is kicked by a teammate AND they actually touch the ball before anyone else THEN they're offside.
"That's insanely complicated." Yes it is. I haven't even gotten into things like "deflection vs intentional touch" or "interferes with an opponent".
"What?" Don't ask.
"Ok... What are these Yellow and Red Card things?" Ah! Cautions and Send Offs! Yeah yellow cards are Cautions and red cards are Send Offs.
A player can be Cautioned for the following reasons:
A player can be Sent Off for the following reasons:
In the US we referees are taught what are called the "4 Ds" when it comes to DOGSO:
Direction of play (the player must be moving towards the goal)
Number of Defenders (the defender must be the last defender)
Distance to the goal (i.e. you need to be close to the goal)
Distance to the ball (i.e. you must actually be able to play the ball)
Ok! Hopefully that answers some major questions!
And now that we're in the thick of things I can do this post...
Hello! It's your friendly neighborhood USCHO Soccer Referee! Are you new to soccer and have questions? Great! Are you not new but have no clue but act like you totally do? SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform! (You call it offsides I bet.) Well, I'm here to help!
First off here's a link to the Laws Of The Game. Why "The Laws" and not rules? Because it was written by Brits and they have a lovely way with overly official sounding language. Example: A shootout is not a shootout, it's "Kicks From The (Penalty) Mark" or KFTM or Kicks (technically it's "Kicks From The Mark used as procedure to determine the winner of a match")
"What's this VAR thing?" VAR, or Video Assistant Referee, is a referee that's in a replay room with a bank of monitors with every camera angle available reviewing things in the match while also being to talk with the referee crew via their audio headsets. In the World Cup he'll assisted by up to 3 AVAR, Assistant Video Assistant Referees (*ing Brits) as well.
"What does the VAR review?" From the Laws:
So what's a "clear and obvious error"? Welp, that's up to interpretation to the referees involved. Generally, it'll be things that you'll see on TV that maybe the referee crew couldn't see otherwise.
"Offsides?" Ok first off, it's Offside. No extra "s". Basically, the second to last defending player (given the position of the goalkeeper it's usually the last defender but this can be different at times especially on things like corner kicks) is the blue line, or the ball is the blue line if the ball is closer to the end line. If any attacker has any part of their body, except their arms, past the blue line when the ball is kicked by a teammate AND they actually touch the ball before anyone else THEN they're offside.
"That's insanely complicated." Yes it is. I haven't even gotten into things like "deflection vs intentional touch" or "interferes with an opponent".
"What?" Don't ask.
"Ok... What are these Yellow and Red Card things?" Ah! Cautions and Send Offs! Yeah yellow cards are Cautions and red cards are Send Offs.
A player can be Cautioned for the following reasons:
90% of the cautions you'll see will be for Unsporting Behavior, either for "commits in a reckless manner a direct free kick offense" or "commits a foul which interferes with or stops a promising attack except where the referee awards a penalty kick for an offense which was an attempt to play the ball"
A player can be Sent Off for the following reasons:
90% of the send offs will be for either "Serious Foul Play", generally for "A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play", or "Receiving a second caution in the same match". You might see one or two for "Denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity" or as referees call it a "DOGSO".
In the US we referees are taught what are called the "4 Ds" when it comes to DOGSO:
Direction of play (the player must be moving towards the goal)
Number of Defenders (the defender must be the last defender)
Distance to the goal (i.e. you need to be close to the goal)
Distance to the ball (i.e. you must actually be able to play the ball)
Ok! Hopefully that answers some major questions!
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Former referee myself. One of the announcers during the Peru game said something that caught me off guard.
He said the goalie is literally untouchable in the goal area. Outside of that he or she is just another player when it comes to contact. I don’t remember any such rule back when I was a ref. So I call bullish-t.
Your thoughts?
Former referee myself. One of the announcers during the Peru game said something that caught me off guard.
He said the goalie is literally untouchable in the goal area. Outside of that he or she is just another player when it comes to contact. I don’t remember any such rule back when I was a ref. So I call bullish-t.
Your thoughts?
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
There's a reason why referee forums tend to have a "Things announcers say" thread. It's total bullsh-t. The only privilege the goalkeeper gets is the ability to handle the ball in their own penalty area and you're not allowed to kick the ball out of the goalkeepers hands.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Laws got updated a couple of years back to specifically say the ball has to be touched:
Wrong!Also, they don’t have to touch the ball to be offsides. They just need to gain an advantage unless the rule has changed. A distinct possibility.
Laws got updated a couple of years back to specifically say the ball has to be touched:
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Also, Dr. Joe was never a referee. Why they use him instead of plenty of other qualified people like Sandra Hunt, Brian Hall, Dr. Sarafini, or even Kevin Stott is beyond me.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
What's this "goal" thing I keep hearing about?
What's this "goal" thing I keep hearing about?
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Offsides: it's a moving blue line, compared to hockey.
Game action: guys kick around the ball for the lulz, once in a while it goes in.
Penalties: players act like Greg Louganis and flop like they got murdered, and hope the referees accept their ploy. Usually successful. The opposing team gets penalized.
Extra time: up to the referees' discretion. Whatever feels right, in their opinion.
I hope this explains things.
Offsides: it's a moving blue line, compared to hockey.
Game action: guys kick around the ball for the lulz, once in a while it goes in.
Penalties: players act like Greg Louganis and flop like they got murdered, and hope the referees accept their ploy. Usually successful. The opposing team gets penalized.
Extra time: up to the referees' discretion. Whatever feels right, in their opinion.
I hope this explains things.
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
That's added or stoppage time son, extra time is something else.
Offsides: it's a moving blue line, compared to hockey.
Game action: guys kick around the ball for the lulz, once in a while it goes in.
Penalties: players act like Greg Louganis and flop like they got murdered, and hope the referees accept their ploy. Usually successful. The opposing team gets penalized.
Extra time: up to the referees' discretion. Whatever feels right, in their opinion.
I hope this explains things.
That's added or stoppage time son, extra time is something else.
unofan
Well-known member
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Because it's still a Fox station. They do not make good calls. If they happen to strike gold, it's from the "blind squirrel finding a nut" variety than actual thought or planning.
Because it's still a Fox station. They do not make good calls. If they happen to strike gold, it's from the "blind squirrel finding a nut" variety than actual thought or planning.
unofan
Well-known member
Re: World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!
Not wrong. He explicitly noted that caveat. (/lawyered) (/HIMYM)
Not wrong. He explicitly noted that caveat. (/lawyered) (/HIMYM)