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Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Interesting only 3 WCHA Teams in the top 10 (1, 9, 10), ECAC (2, 4, 6), Hockey East (3,7,8) and Mercyhurst 5th.

The Poll for October 29:

Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota (15) 10- 0-0 150 1
2 Cornell 4- 1-0 129 2
3 Boston University 7- 1-0 119 3
4 Clarkson 7- 1-0 105 4
5 Mercyhurst 8- 1-1 92 5
6 Harvard 2- 0-0 54 9
7 Northeastern 5- 1-1 53 7
8 Boston College 2- 3-0 45 6
9 North Dakota 4- 4-0 33 8
10 Ohio State 7- 3-0 20 NR
Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 12, Minnesota-Duluth 11, Providence 1, St. Lawrence 1.

I'd love to hear the logic for why BC is so far ahead of OSU. It must be along the lines of, "I think they should be better on paper, so they are ranked higher." I don't see it supported by results to date.
 
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For the sake of comparison, here is how Rutter currently ranks the teams:

Team Rating RPI.Rank RPI
1 Minnesota 2.9056 2 0.6986
2 Cornell 1.7957 3 0.6744
3 Boston University 1.7332 6 0.6622
4 Mercyhurst 1.5213 4 0.6666
5 Harvard 1.5076 1 0.7231
6 Clarkson 1.4548 5 0.6658
7 Ohio State 1.3404 8 0.5817
8 North Dakota 1.0658 12 0.5487
9 Northeastern 0.6348 9 0.5706
10 Minnesota Duluth 0.4706 20 0.4657
11 Quinnipiac 0.4407 7 0.5860
12 Wisconsin 0.4307 18 0.4757
13 Minnesota State 0.3493 15 0.5172
14 Dartmouth 0.3480 10 0.5559
15 Providence 0.3006 13 0.5358
16 St. Lawrence 0.2046 16 0.5131
17 Princeton 0.1633 14 0.5337
18 Boston College 0.1588 21 0.4638
19 Bemidji State 0.0423 25 0.4226
20 St. Cloud State -0.0028 17 0.4759
21 Robert Morris -0.0401 19 0.4708
22 Brown -0.3757 11 0.5521
23 New Hampshire -0.4498 27 0.4177
24 RIT -0.4655 22 0.4563
25 Syracuse -0.5886 26 0.4196
26 Vermont -0.8426 28 0.3835
27 Union -0.9112 23 0.4477
28 Penn State -1.0657 32 0.3459
29 Maine -1.1990 31 0.3633
30 Rensselaer -1.3925 29 0.3812
31 Colgate -1.4230 30 0.3634
32 Yale -1.5802 24 0.4253
33 Connecticut -1.6573 33 0.3334
34 Lindenwood -2.4140 34 0.3179
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

For the sake of comparison, here is how Rutter currently ranks the teams:

Team Rating RPI.Rank RPI
1 Minnesota 2.9056 2 0.6986
2 Cornell 1.7957 3 0.6744
3 Boston University 1.7332 6 0.6622
4 Mercyhurst 1.5213 4 0.6666
5 Harvard 1.5076 1 0.7231
6 Clarkson 1.4548 5 0.6658
7 Ohio State 1.3404 8 0.5817
8 North Dakota 1.0658 12 0.5487
9 Northeastern 0.6348 9 0.5706
10 Minnesota Duluth 0.4706 20 0.4657
11 Quinnipiac 0.4407 7 0.5860
12 Wisconsin 0.4307 18 0.4757
13 Minnesota State 0.3493 15 0.5172
14 Dartmouth 0.3480 10 0.5559
15 Providence 0.3006 13 0.5358
16 St. Lawrence 0.2046 16 0.5131
17 Princeton 0.1633 14 0.5337
18 Boston College 0.1588 21 0.4638


This seems to make a lot more sense, but I don't think BC at 18 is accurate either. You do have to seriously question the ranking of them at 8th though when they have lost to their only ranked opponant and split 4 games against un ranked opponants.
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Anyone know why Minnesota is absent from the Pairwise Rankings? It certainly makes the record vs. TUC look better for Ohio State and North Dakota.
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Anyone know why Minnesota is absent from the Pairwise Rankings?
Eastern bias. Something must be set up wrong, but we showed up a couple of weeks ago, so I'm not sure how it would be screwed up again. It should be the top 12 teams in the RPI, and we show as tied for 1st in USCHO's version of that, so who knows. If it is still wrong in another month I'll mention it to support folks, but given that some of the Ivies have only played two games, it's a little early to look too closely at the PWR.
 
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Mentioned last week after the BU loss, that if Clarky would split at UND they may move up to third, and voila, there they are. :)

Surprised to see OHIO and UND swap places. Would think that splitting with a team ranked well above you is not grounds to lose a spot to a team that swept a non ranked team. The OHIO getting some love from the voters. (deservedly so IMHO)
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Mentioned last week after the BU loss, that if Clarky would split at UND they may move up to third, and voila, there they are. :)

Surprised to see OHIO and UND swap places. Would think that splitting with a team ranked well above you is not grounds to lose a spot to a team that swept a non ranked team. The OHIO getting some love from the voters. (deservedly so IMHO)

I was wondering too why UND moves down while Clarkson moves up, right after the two teams split.
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

I was wondering too why UND moves down while Clarkson moves up, right after the two teams split.
Isn’t that how it works. After two competitive losses to the unanimous number one team in the country they dropped one spot so it’s only natural that they drop when they split with the 4th ranked team. Makes perfect sense.
 
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I was wondering too why UND moves down while Clarkson moves up, right after the two teams split.
My guess is that it is because the team above Clarkson went 0-1-1 while the one below UND went 2-0. If one compares the resumes of UND and OSU: both were swept by UM, UND had the closer games, but was also at home; both swept SCSU, again, OSU had to travel; they split head to head and the Buckeyes had the edge in location; UND was 2-2 versus Clarkson and MSU; Ohio State swept Lindenwood, UMD, and BSU. I think the sweep of UMD is the result that lifts the Buckeyes over the former Sioux, at least for the time being.
 
Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Eastern bias. Something must be set up wrong, but we showed up a couple of weeks ago, so I'm not sure how it would be screwed up again. It should be the top 12 teams in the RPI, and we show as tied for 1st in USCHO's version of that, so who knows. If it is still wrong in another month I'll mention it to support folks, but given that some of the Ivies have only played two games, it's a little early to look too closely at the PWR.

Maybe too early, ARM, yet seems our ECAC Boston based Ivy often carries, tots (freebie) a-goal-a-game in national playoffs (its the PRESTIGE, stupid...) (not u). Once/were they to make it out of the conference, Harvard is loaded. k K K Katey, u might get your chance in '13.

Cornell has been loaded yet hasn't got it done. HAS NOT! Fact. All you fans far above Cayuga's waters, you-will-need-to-take-it-up-a-notch (AT LEAST, a goal a game...), breathe- and win, vis a vis, 'The West'!

So far...u a disappointment to us (nationally) when p. comes to s.
 
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Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

I was wondering too why UND moves down while Clarkson moves up, right after the two teams split.

I was wondering why, after being swept by SLU, why SLU gets a vote, and on the heels of a 5 game losing streak, UNH gets 2 any?
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

Okay, my turn.... "I was wondering why".......

there's no USA Hockey poll this week?
I haven't seen one all season. When I tried looking directly on USA Today one week, I couldn't find it on that site.
 
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I was wondering why, after being swept by SLU, why SLU gets a vote, and on the heels of a 5 game losing streak, UNH gets 2 any?

DC....You are underselling the Wildcats. Should be obvious to you. SLU sweeping those mighty Wildcats will garner some votes. :D

More seriously.....SLU's set of past opponents and their rankings have a lot to do with it. All their past opponents they lost to, swept last weekend (except Clarky, but they moved up anyways), so that tends to improve your stock as well, as long as you do the same.
 
Re: Women's DI Rankings/Polls 2012-2013

http://usahockey.com/players/polls.aspx
Take a peek, it's been here all season, including links to all previous weeks, but for some reason there isn't one this week.
I get an "F" in "looking". Maybe they figured that since so many of the ranked teams had a bye this week they would take one as well. Either that, or Katey Stone is one of the voters and she didn't get her vote in because 4 Nations.

Odd numbering schemes as well:

Women's Oct 30 poll is "Week 6", while Men's Nov 5th poll is "Week 5". (BTW Women's "Week 5" is Oct 23).
The women's season starts a couple weeks before the men's season does.
 
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