Seems like $8 a game is still a deal unless Wisconsin women's hockey is only worth $5.
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Wisconsin Women's Hockey 2024-2025
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Seems like $8 a game is still a deal unless Wisconsin women's hockey is only worth $5.
BadgerPete
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Seems like $8 a game is still a deal unless Wisconsin women's hockey is only worth $5.
Yup. Given the product they've provided on the ice for me, I've been ripping off the athletic department for 25 years at this point. (When I was in college there was a Red Card you could buy for $20 each year that got you into everything but football, men's basketball, and men's hockey and I would love to know how much in retail value I got out of that thing each year)
Tickets are going up across the board for the extremely successful women's sports at UW. Sucks to be good? They haven't gotten close to the place where I wouldn't renew for what they trot out in front of me each year.
Timothy A
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Seems like $8 a game is still a deal unless Wisconsin women's hockey is only worth $5.
A family of 5 pays $40 instead of $25 to go to a single game. That's not chump change.
Plus all the unreasonable concession prices. $8 for a brat when I can buy a 5 pack of Johnsonville for $5.49 and 8 buns for $1.29.
Timothy A
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This is very interesting to ponder. I appreciate your position.
Unfortunately if the market supports $8 tickets and brats then they will keep charging that and more until people don't see the value and stop buying. You can't go to a U.W. men's game nor an AHL game or even a USHL game for $8 as far as I know. The women's games still seem like a great value to see great hockey. `
Timothy A
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Yeah I agree, I just think that the women's game is more driven toward families and young kids because of such a up close and personal experience and I'd like to see it stay affordable for families.
Still Eeyore
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I have no idea how you can arrive at this conclusion. It makes me question the veracity of anything else you say. Given how far away the seats are from the rink, and that the more gradual pitch of the seats in a football stadium are, you couldn't see a thing. It was awful.
Still Eeyore
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It's not just how far away the seats are. The seats in a hockey arena are, in general, pitched more steeply than those at a football or baseball stadium. This is both to be able to see over the boards, and because indoor arenas typically have fewer rows. Sections farther away from the field of play are steeper than those that are close, because it's more difficult to see over the people in front of you the farther away you are. There are maximum angles that you don't want to exceed, generally held to be 35-40 degrees of incline. So, fewer rows means you can start at a steeper angle without the back seats exceeding what is desirable.
Putting a hockey rink on a football field messes up these calculations. The pitch of the seats is a function of how far from the field they are. A pitch that is optimal for a football stadium becomes a sightline problem with the greater distance to the rink. This gets exacerbated by the boards, which are an obstruction to sightlines that hockey arenas are designed to overcome, but football stadiums are not.
BadgerPete
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Wisconsin adds another player from the BK Selects pipeline for the 2026 class, Shayla Beaudette, 5'7" D from Aurora, CO.
Timothy A
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Let's Goooooo!!!!
BadgerDad2022
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must be a partial scholarship or something as she didn't advance from 18U camp and frankly wasn't a standout
robertearle
Well-known member
Keep in mind that by 2026, there won't be a "scholarship limit", there will only be "roster size limits", and whatever limit the university puts on payment to women hockey athletes, within their overall payments to their athletes.
BadgerPete
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She was on the all-tournament team for U16 Tier 1 Nationals and has been consistently invited to the Festival for multiple years. From what I've seen she compares very similarly to Vivian Jungels, who might I add also never advanced from U18 Camp and who I wouldn't trade for almost anybody in college hockey right now.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Viv is a beast! UW doesn't need every player to be a "all national" type player, especially the D, who they have a proven knack of developing. In MJ I trust.
Timothy A
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I just got an email from the UW ticket office that my request for 1 more season ticket has been denied. A long time season ticket holder who eats very few tickets, is just not important enough than the big money donors. It's funny because I'd venture to guess 15% to 20% of the sold tickets are not used per game, obviously the amount of eats is lower for the big series. Maybe they should hand out season tickets based on the percentage of tickets purchased that are scanned per ticket purchaser. And they should also take into account how long you've had them and reward the long time loyal purchasers.
Thank you for requesting Wisconsin Women’s Hockey Season Tickets. All season ticket requests were reviewed based on availability, annual giving level, and priority points within annual giving levels as of August 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 2024.
Unfortunately, we were unable to fulfill your request for additional season tickets. Due to the recent success of the women’s hockey program, this year’s season ticket retention rate was one of the highest in program history. With the high retention rate and success of the team, only a limited number of season tickets became available. Season requests from donors were filled through the Red & White Club ($250). Season ticket requests from donors in the Walk-On Club and non-donors were unable to be filled.
Thank you for requesting Wisconsin Women’s Hockey Season Tickets. All season ticket requests were reviewed based on availability, annual giving level, and priority points within annual giving levels as of August 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 2024.
Unfortunately, we were unable to fulfill your request for additional season tickets. Due to the recent success of the women’s hockey program, this year’s season ticket retention rate was one of the highest in program history. With the high retention rate and success of the team, only a limited number of season tickets became available. Season requests from donors were filled through the Red & White Club ($250). Season ticket requests from donors in the Walk-On Club and non-donors were unable to be filled.
Sorry to hear you didn't get your extra ticket. Do you know if there is a lot of re-selling of tickets for the women's games?
robertearle
Well-known member
"Red and White Club" and "Walk-on Club", etc, refer to the number of donor points a person's account have accumulated. And while most of the points are gotten through money donations, some small number of points are awarded for being a season ticket holder. So it isn't like Tim is at "zero"; you do have a non-zero point total for having been a season-ticket holder for many years. But obviously, that total wasn't enough; bigger donors who requested tickets beat you out.
As for resale of tickets, up until this past year or two, for most games, people with extra tickets would just leave the printed ticket on the window ledge at one of the two doors, free for the taking. But with last season being the last year that printing out pdf ticket was even possible, giving tickets away like that becomes at least more difficult, and maybe impossible. So will there be more tickets for sale on CraigsList or even at SeatGeek, etc? Who knows. For the most part, such resale was only very rarely needed, with the regular giving away of tickets.
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I re-read the latest donor guide or whatever they call it, and I have some of the above wrong.
The points are used to 'rank' individuals within a donor level. So assuming Tim is an annual non-donor (as was I until they forced me to donate for my volleyball tickets), the years of being a season-ticket holder will help your ranking within the non-donor tier. But an annual $250 donor who has never had WH season tickets ranks higher than Tim when it came to allocation of available tickets for the coming season, because of the dollar donation tier. Tim would be higher than a non-donor non-season ticket holder (like my friend Doug, who has tried to get WH season tickets the last couple years.)
So, three individuals:
$250 annual donor who has never had WH season tickets ranks higher than...
non-donor long-time WH season ticket holder, who ranks higher than...
non-donor non season ticket holder.
As for resale of tickets, up until this past year or two, for most games, people with extra tickets would just leave the printed ticket on the window ledge at one of the two doors, free for the taking. But with last season being the last year that printing out pdf ticket was even possible, giving tickets away like that becomes at least more difficult, and maybe impossible. So will there be more tickets for sale on CraigsList or even at SeatGeek, etc? Who knows. For the most part, such resale was only very rarely needed, with the regular giving away of tickets.
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I re-read the latest donor guide or whatever they call it, and I have some of the above wrong.
The points are used to 'rank' individuals within a donor level. So assuming Tim is an annual non-donor (as was I until they forced me to donate for my volleyball tickets), the years of being a season-ticket holder will help your ranking within the non-donor tier. But an annual $250 donor who has never had WH season tickets ranks higher than Tim when it came to allocation of available tickets for the coming season, because of the dollar donation tier. Tim would be higher than a non-donor non-season ticket holder (like my friend Doug, who has tried to get WH season tickets the last couple years.)
So, three individuals:
$250 annual donor who has never had WH season tickets ranks higher than...
non-donor long-time WH season ticket holder, who ranks higher than...
non-donor non season ticket holder.
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So it's not really a donation but more like graft money since there is a favor returned for your contribution?
robertearle
Well-known member
Three sort-of 'classes' or 'categories' here:
- There are season tickets to UW sports/teams that do not require a "donation", but might be more easily gotten if a "donation" is made. Tim's experience with women's hockey falls into this category (as does mine). For someone who began buying season tickets to women's hockey years ago - like Tim and I - continuing the purchase of those tickets does not require any "donation", either one-time or annual.
- There are season tickets to UW sports/teams that if you do not currently have, you might need to make a one-time "donation" to begin getting - like my friend Doug, or Tim wanting to add a ticket. I'm pretty sure that if Tim or Doug had made such a "donation", then renewing their order for those tickets would not require a further "donation".
- And there are season tickets to UW sports/teams that require an annual "donation" to continue buying. Most if not all football tickets are in this category. I assume most men's basketball tickets are in this category. Beginning in 2022, some women's volleyball tickets moved into this category, and then this year many more - but not all - VB tickets (including mine) were moved here.
(The annual "donation" I now have to make to keep my VB tickets is $100, above the cost of the tickets themselves. I've read guesses or estimates that it would take a $5000 "donation" to begin getting VB tickets, when the time for 'new applications' comes around. When I started getting VB tickets in 2014, all I had to do was call the athletic department and ask for a ticket.)
Yes, the university refers to these payments as "donations", but that usage is rather Orwellian.
(I guess there's a fourth category, too. I'm pretty sure if you called the athletic department and said you wanted season tickets to women's basketball, for example, no "donation" would be needed; they'd be happy to sell you tickets.)
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BadgerPete
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My wife and I added women's basketball season tickets this year and there's certainly no donation needed. As new season ticket holders we got them immediately. General admission was $50 a piece for the season, and we'll attend enough games to make that worthwhile up front.