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Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the problem!!

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KaMiGo said:
Deserve? DESERVE?!?
What exactly have any of us done to "deserve" anything from this team, this coach, this administration?
We can expect, we can want, we can anticipate, we can hope, we can desire...
But deserve, we don't deserve anything
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Stockholm Syndrome?


The history and legacy of this program deserves better.

And yes... the fans deserve better.


Even you - whether you want it or not.
 
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solovsfett said:
Edit: yeah that was emotional but hey, times are tough, you want us to continue donating then you better start fielding a winning product with the quickness
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As a non-donor living not-close-to-Madison, my stake in this is considerably lower. But I still think I can speak on all of our behalves when I say that even if we can't get "winning", if we could at least get "worth watching"...
 
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March 5th, 2016 - should be the last home game of the Eaves Era. I can't make it that night - but I hope someone takes a picture so we can hopefully happily look back on that night a few years from now as the bottoming out of the program.

Had a get together with some old college buddies this weekend. Not really hockey guys, but UW athletic fans. They agreed that even as extremely passive UW hockey fans; they are aghast at how bad the program has become and that Alvarez needs to do something. One of them also added - "from what i have heard, he doesn't even care about hockey". He said it completely innocently and not trying to raise my ire, and he said it like it was common knowledge.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
To be fair, a lot of us would say it the exact same way.
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You speak the truth.

While the countdown clock is under 25 days, I truly believe that there will not be a change in staff at this point. I don't have any sources that would lead me to believe that this will be the case, but I just don't see anything that could push Barry/JK into making any sorts of changes.
 
gwhinwi said:
You speak the truth.

While the countdown clock is under 25 days, I truly believe that there will not be a change in staff at this point. I don't have any sources that would lead me to believe that this will be the case, but I just don't see anything that could push Barry/JK into making any sorts of changes.
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Barry does not care about hockey as a sport, but he does care about 1.) money and 2.) reputation.

While the revenue from hockey isn't going to make or break the Athletic department budget, at some point the loss in revenue from keeping Eaves is going to be greater than the cost of buying him out.

A pair of single digit win seasons, the two worst in program history, does not project well on the Athletic department as a whole because people are taking notice. If Eaves stays on after this season, people outside the hockey circles are going to start questioning if Barry is fit to run a diversified athletic department as opposed to just a football and men's basketball programs during good times?
 
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Almington said:
If Eaves stays on after this season, people outside the hockey circles are going to start questioning if Barry is fit to run a diversified athletic department as opposed to just a football and men's basketball programs during good times?
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Then a greater question could be, would you tolerate another year of Eaves to point out how much Alvarez is hurting UW athletics overall.
 
gwhinwi said:
Then a greater question could be, would you tolerate another year of Eaves to point out how much Alvarez is hurting UW athletics overall.
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No, every year is doing so much damage to this program that even if Barry and Eaves were to go after next year, it would take at least a decade to rebuild the fanbase, likely more.

While I'm not convinced that the Barry Clown Show is able to make the best hire, I'm not sure that the new staff could have on-ice results any worse then these last two years.
 
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WI is starting (if not there right now) to be the 2000s MTU. Not kidding. It actually saddens me, as it's difficult to even be riled up about the upcoming series. At least, compared to years past. If the WI program continues down this path, they might become completely irrelevant, even in a "rival" series with MN.

Not trolling, not one bit. This was my 2nd fave series to look forward to (UND being #1) for the season. No more.
 
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Used to be my favorite team to follow. Replacing them with the Wild and Packers has been a no brainier.
 
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Almington said:
Barry does not care about hockey as a sport, but he does care about 1.) money and 2.) reputation.

While the revenue from hockey isn't going to make or break the Athletic department budget, at some point the loss in revenue from keeping Eaves is going to be greater than the cost of buying him out.

A pair of single digit win seasons, the two worst in program history, does not project well on the Athletic department as a whole because people are taking notice. If Eaves stays on after this season, people outside the hockey circles are going to start questioning if Barry is fit to run a diversified athletic department as opposed to just a football and men's basketball programs during good times?
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I think these are the very reasons that Alvarez & Co. will indeed makes the coaching changes to both men's hockey and women's basketball. The losing is bad enough, but men's hockey losing all the revenue simply cannot be ignored. While women's basketball probably can't break even in the best cast scenario, the sheer amount of losing over Kelsy's reign is completely unacceptable.

The tricky situation would have been if this team had won 14-16 games. That reasonable possibility seemingly went out the door with Opilka bailing over the summer. I have no idea how good Jurusik can be going forward, he's just not good enough to help bail out the rest of the team if/when the offense strugggles.

Bottom line is I just don't see Eaves surviving what's almost certainly going to be another single-win season. Being a stud title winner as a player and winnlng the title in '06 can only carry so much goodwill.
 
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A little bird (that would definitely be in the know/loop/have connections within Badger nation) told me that there's probably going to be a major shake up with Badger hockey. Not earth shattering or surprising in the least given we are on pace for a two year win total that would be a troubling total over a single season much less two and that fan support/season ticket base has cratered to a catastrophic level, but reassuring that changes are apparently imminent. I am assuming at this point of the season, Eaves will finish the season and whatever shakeup may occur will be upon completion of the season. By the way, this little bird happens to be in the circle of a person that if we sat around and speculated on potential coaching replacements, I would guess that that person would be in the two handful of names everyone would come up with. Sorry about being cryptic and I will gladly share more once the season ends and whatever transpires does.
 
markwojo said:
A little bird (that would definitely be in the know/loop/have connections within Badger nation) told me that there's probably going to be a major shake up with Badger hockey. Not earth shattering or surprising in the least given we are on pace for a two year win total that would be a troubling total over a single season much less two and that fan support/season ticket base has cratered to a catastrophic level, but reassuring that changes are apparently imminent. I am assuming at this point of the season, Eaves will finish the season and whatever shakeup may occur will be upon completion of the season. By the way, this little bird happens to be in the circle of a person that if we sat around and speculated on potential coaching replacements, I would guess that that person would be in the two handful of names everyone would come up with. Sorry about being cryptic and I will gladly share more once the season ends and whatever transpires does.
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UW is buying Mike Babcock from the Leafs, got it. ;)
 
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WiscDC said:
UW is buying Mike Babcock from the Leafs, got it. ;)
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Actual it is a trade of Eaves for Babcock with the Maple Leaves retaining salary on Babcock for cap purposes. The Leafs are in full tank mode, so who better to lead a tank then Mr. 10 wins over two seasons?
 
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What's the next thread title gonna be?
 
markwojo said:
A little bird (that would definitely be in the know/loop/have connections within Badger nation) told me that there's probably going to be a major shake up with Badger hockey. Not earth shattering or surprising in the least given we are on pace for a two year win total that would be a troubling total over a single season much less two and that fan support/season ticket base has cratered to a catastrophic level, but reassuring that changes are apparently imminent. I am assuming at this point of the season, Eaves will finish the season and whatever shakeup may occur will be upon completion of the season. By the way, this little bird happens to be in the circle of a person that if we sat around and speculated on potential coaching replacements, I would guess that that person would be in the two handful of names everyone would come up with. Sorry about being cryptic and I will gladly share more once the season ends and whatever transpires does.
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Nice!
 
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