Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the problem!!

[bucky15]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

I counted the loss to the U-18's last year for 35 on the wrong side. Why? I don't know, because I didn't count beating Trinity this year.

Here's the recap on the weekend in short: Last night they played bad the first 30 minutes. Then they played very good the last 35 minutes. Friday they played inbetween those two levels the whole 60.

Basically it seems to me it took four and a half periods to get back to the pace they were playing with before the break.

Couple of other observations: When Besse works hard without the puck he's very, very good. When he doesn't, he's just another guy with a good wrist shot skating around out there. Kunin, Besse, Schulze, and Wittchow logged huge, huge minutes.
We saw why Tischke has been surpassed by Bunz. I like Peter, he has speed and talent, but he hasn't made the adjustment yet. Two OSU goals were directly related to him getting caught puck watching in no man's land, and a third was him getting out of position and getting beat straight off the wall to the net by a guy carrying the puck. That just can't happen. I think Bunz is servicable and he's actually better than I thought he would be despite a few lapses here and there. He lost his man on the other OSU goal, but he and Schulze got a little crossed up and went for the same guy.
I still think Ustaski can contribute before he's done here. He's getting better, but it's slow progress. Will Johnson had a nice night, but still missed out on a big chance to end it. Gotta get some of those opportunities to go in.
Makeshift 2nd line really missed an on his game Jedd Soleway as they got pushed around a lot by some of OSU's big boys. Did anybody hear any word about Hughes, Sexton and Soleway's status?

Kunin and Schulze played beer league type minutes when only 8 players on your team show up. I wonder the amount of game time last night where neither of them was on the ice.

 

[UWisco]

I counted the loss to the U-18's last year for 35 on the wrong side. Why? I don't know, because I didn't count beating Trinity this year.

Here's the recap on the weekend in short: Last night they played bad the first 30 minutes. Then they played very good the last 35 minutes. Friday they played inbetween those two levels the whole 60.

Basically it seems to me it took four and a half periods to get back to the pace they were playing with before the break.

Couple of other observations: When Besse works hard without the puck he's very, very good. When he doesn't, he's just another guy with a good wrist shot skating around out there. Kunin, Besse, Schulze, and Wittchow logged huge, huge minutes.
We saw why Tischke has been surpassed by Bunz. I like Peter, he has speed and talent, but he hasn't made the adjustment yet. Two OSU goals were directly related to him getting caught puck watching in no man's land, and a third was him getting out of position and getting beat straight off the wall to the net by a guy carrying the puck. That just can't happen. I think Bunz is servicable and he's actually better than I thought he would be despite a few lapses here and there. He lost his man on the other OSU goal, but he and Schulze got a little crossed up and went for the same guy.
I still think Ustaski can contribute before he's done here. He's getting better, but it's slow progress. Will Johnson had a nice night, but still missed out on a big chance to end it. Gotta get some of those opportunities to go in.
Makeshift 2nd line really missed an on his game Jedd Soleway as they got pushed around a lot by some of OSU's big boys. Did anybody hear any word about Hughes, Sexton and Soleway's status?

I don't know about Hughes or Sexton but Soleway needed to sit a game. Hopefully just a healthy scratch but his play of lately has been plain bad.

 

[MadCityRich]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

8-53 over the last two seasons. Yay

I know it's been bad, I didn't realize it's been that kind of bad. Why are these current people in the hockey offices, still in the hockey offices? I'm having trouble even listening to them on the radio, especially when somebody I know from the area is AGAIN scoring against his (childhood) home team.
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[Timothy A]

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I don't know about Hughes or Sexton but Soleway needed to sit a game. Hopefully just a healthy scratch but his play of lately has been plain bad.

All 3 are injured. Soleway may be back this weekend, the other 2 not.

It's interesting Baggott is quoting Strand a lot and Eaves not so much.

I will admit I kinda gave up on the lads Saturday after 2 being down by 2. I decided to shower and shave at the intermission, and started watching a great lecture on CSPAN whilst showering, then son 1 peeks his head into the bathroom and tells me the game is tied. I was shocked, shoulda dragged the laptop into the bathroom instead of watching tv. At least these guys have some fight in them. I was impressed Jurusic did not allow a goal in the shootout.

 

[IndianaBadger1995]

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Wisconsin has clinched a better overall record than last year with that tie, by the way.

It really shouldn't take this long to beat last season's record.

I don't get having all five players on the PP having their butts glued to the boards. No one on the ice wanted to make a play or go to the net on the PP.

1st period was painful, I think the first time they made a play at the net resulted in a goal. They kept taking the play to the boards in the first. 3rd period it was like a different team.

They lack depth at F and D, does anyone know where to find the time on ice stats for this game? Some players put up some huge minutes last night.

Agree with everything. How do college coaches not tell at least one player to be in front of the net screening the goalie on the power play? Having a person in front is a KEY part to a power play.

1st period had me ticked. Lack of defensive awareness is gonna kill this team. You'd think the guy who coached the 1-1-3 since he got here would be able to teach his players how to play defensive coverage with the new system.

8-34-11 last year and this year combined thusfar.

it's incredibly discouraging to hear how these guys are playing in terms of playing on the boards on the pp, terrible D play and of course they're short on offense...again.

It's an odd feeling for me getting to a weekend and not having any motivation to listen or watch. Just grab the box score from this site. It's a far cry from the good old days

Not to pick on you specifically, but some of you guys should tell the younger posters, such as myself, what the "good old days" were like. My first badger game I watched live at the KC came in the 04-05 season against Ferris State in the Badger hockey showdown. I had season tickets from 06-08. I base all badger teams off the 05-06 team and to a lesser extent the 09-10 team. Obviously that wasn't the prime of badger hockey. My parents graduated from Madison in the early 90s so they got to witness the 90' championship team but they don't ever talk about it other than who their favorite players were.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Not to pick on you specifically, but some of you guys should tell the younger posters, such as myself, what the "good old days" were like. My first badger game I watched live at the KC came in the 04-05 season against Ferris State in the Badger hockey showdown. I had season tickets from 06-08. I base all badger teams off the 05-06 team and to a lesser extent the 09-10 team. Obviously that wasn't the prime of badger hockey. My parents graduated from Madison in the early 90s so they got to witness the 90' championship team but they don't ever talk about it other than who their favorite players were.

I think a return to some consistency is all any of us old timers want.


All the things that Solo and others lament about were nice - the homemade banners in the Coliseum, the Rumble Rink (which actually predates even me), hockey being the only game in town, etc, etc, etc...

It was campy. It was fun. A LOT of fun and it was exclusively OURS (meaning hockey fans). It was something that we all took GREAT pride in being a part of. And quite impossible to describe to people who weren't there.


Truth told though, Eaves or no Eaves, those things were destined to be left behind by progress regardless.

Football and basketball aren't going anywhere and who would want them to other than the most childish/petulant of one-sport fans?

The team isn't going back to the coliseum and as someone who still goes there regularly for high school hockey, I say thank God. That place is a dump. Give me the comfort (and cleanliness) of the KC every time.

The WCHA isn't coming back. This one is unfortunate (and still stings on occasion), but no one asked us fans nor would they have listened to us anyway. The B1G was inevitable, whether it happened when it did or within 10 years after.


Sure, I miss the old days. But they're in the past.


Run a clean program and just win baby. Restore the pride of being a Badger Hockey fan.

That's what's missing now and that's all that any of us should want moving forward.

 

[RedStripes]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

Run a clean program and just win baby. Restore the pride of being a Badger Hockey fan.

That's what's missing now and that's all that any of us should want moving forward.

Well said!

 

[KaMiGo]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

Run a clean program and just win baby. Restore the pride of being a Badger Hockey fan.

That's what's missing now and that's all that any of us should want moving forward.

I think that is all that any of us are looking for. Some disagree with how that can/should happen, and that is to be expected.

The big thing that we all need to keep in mind is that we all want the same thing, a successful program.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

It really shouldn't take this long to beat last season's record.


Not to pick on you specifically, but some of you guys should tell the younger posters, such as myself, what the "good old days" were like. My first badger game I watched live at the KC came in the 04-05 season against Ferris State in the Badger hockey showdown. I had season tickets from 06-08. I base all badger teams off the 05-06 team and to a lesser extent the 09-10 team. Obviously that wasn't the prime of badger hockey. My parents graduated from Madison in the early 90s so they got to witness the 90' championship team but they don't ever talk about it other than who their favorite players were.

Right on with that first point. They should have surpassed 4 wins by now and really, they should have doubled that to 8 by now.

With regard to the good old days ("get off my lawn!") Gurt nailed it really. But I'd add, the differences in the atmosphere, the old WCHA teams, the swagger with which Wisconsin Hockey carried itself (the players of course, the coaches weren't cocky, not that I can recall anyway) it starts and ends with the players really.

When My Dad and I started going to games we were fortunate to see Gary Suter, Mike Richter, CUJO, Steve Tuttle, Tony Granato, Paul Ranheim et al. In those days Wisconsin could play with anyone any weekend in any venue and there was never any fear they couldn't keep up or couldn't play rough and tumble if they needed to. They were the team (along with Minnesota and Nodak until Hrkac left and they had a dip) that people feared playing. They were fast as hell, creative as hell and had some defenseman that would knock the snot out of you. They also had character (and maybe that will never come back with the way the NCAA has sanitized their games, and even the pros)...Duane Derksen chasing a Minnesota player around the net showing him his glove hand and chirping at him. Andrew Schier pointing to the scoreboard so the Denver players could more accurately see they were down by 2. Jim Carey telling his teammates "hold em to 3 and we'll win".

In many ways you could compare some later era teams to them. The 97 and 98 Michigan Wolverines with Botterill and Morrison. The BU teams with Grier and Drury maybe. But the thing was it seemed like Wisconsin was that good or great EVERY single year. They didn't have these enormous drop-offs. They reloaded. When Granato, Ranheim and Tuttle were gone they were replaced by Tancill, Byce, Shuchuk who in turn were replaced by guys like Kelly Fairchild, Jason Zent, Andrew Schier et al. Lose a 20-25 goal scorer? No big deal, there's another one coming in next season or there's a kid like a Dan Plante or a Dennis Snedden or a Shawn Carter who would carry the team at times.

At only one point in the Eaves era did the team resemble the glory years and it was 05-06 (in terms of having the general feeling the team was going to win every weekend, and some of the dominance they displayed at times on the ice, changing full lines and retaining puck possession in the offensive zone!). Except I'm not sure if the teams I'm talking about would have collapsed severely (ala 05-06 w/out Elliott) if Richter, CUJO, Derksen, Dean Anderson or Terry Kleisinger went down.

anyway, a quick .02 before I head out the door

 

[bucky15]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl

Right on with that first point. They should have surpassed 4 wins by now and really, they should have doubled that to 8 by now.

With regard to the good old days ("get off my lawn!") Gurt nailed it really. But I'd add, the differences in the atmosphere, the old WCHA teams, the swagger with which Wisconsin Hockey carried itself (the players of course, the coaches weren't cocky, not that I can recall anyway) it starts and ends with the players really.

When My Dad and I started going to games we were fortunate to see Gary Suter, Mike Richter, CUJO, Steve Tuttle, Tony Granato, Paul Ranheim et al. In those days Wisconsin could play with anyone any weekend in any venue and there was never any fear they couldn't keep up or couldn't play rough and tumble if they needed to. They were the team (along with Minnesota and Nodak until Hrkac left and they had a dip) that people feared playing. They were fast as hell, creative as hell and had some defenseman that would knock the snot out of you. They also had character (and maybe that will never come back with the way the NCAA has sanitized their games, and even the pros)...Duane Derksen chasing a Minnesota player around the net showing him his glove hand and chirping at him. Andrew Schier pointing to the scoreboard so the Denver players could more accurately see they were down by 2. Jim Carey telling his teammates "hold em to 3 and we'll win".

In many ways you could compare some later era teams to them. The 97 and 98 Michigan Wolverines with Botterill and Morrison. The BU teams with Grier and Drury maybe. But the thing was it seemed like Wisconsin was that good or great EVERY single year. They didn't have these enormous drop-offs. They reloaded. When Granato, Ranheim and Tuttle were gone they were replaced by Tancill, Byce, Shuchuk who in turn were replaced by guys like Kelly Fairchild, Jason Zent, Andrew Schier et al. Lose a 20-25 goal scorer? No big deal, there's another one coming in next season or there's a kid like a Dan Plante or a Dennis Snedden or a Shawn Carter who would carry the team at times.

At only one point in the Eaves era did the team resemble the glory years and it was 05-06 (in terms of having the general feeling the team was going to win every weekend, and some of the dominance they displayed at times on the ice, changing full lines and retaining puck possession in the offensive zone!). Except I'm not sure if the teams I'm talking about would have collapsed severely (ala 05-06 w/out Elliott) if Richter, CUJO, Derksen, Dean Anderson or Terry Kleisinger went down.

anyway, a quick .02 before I head out the door

How do you not put 09/10 on the list of "glory years"? 5 of the 6 D on that team play regular minutes currently in the NHL. First ever Hobey Baker winner on that team. 4 players on that team had 50 or more points. I can never understand how little respect that team gets on this board. UW hockey has been around over 50 years and they are 1 of 9 teams to make it to the championship game. I guess that isn't "glory years" worthy.

 

[bucky15]

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I agree with a lot of Gurt's points and think that was well said. I also think people here are looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses.


Below are just stats.

Eaves 13 years 2002-2015
% in NCAA tourney 54%
% in NCAA title game 15%

Sauer 20 years 1982-2002
% in NCAA tourney 55%
% in NCAA title game 15%

Johnson 15 years 1966 to 82
% in NCAA tourney 47%
% in NCAA title game 27%

Rothwell 75/76 season
0%
0%

 

[solovsfett]

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I agree with a lot of Gurt's points and think that was well said. I also think people here are looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses.


Below are just stats.

Eaves 13 years 2002-2015
% in NCAA tourney 54%
% in NCAA title game 15%

Sauer 20 years 1982-2002
% in NCAA tourney 55%
% in NCAA title game 15%

Johnson 15 years 1966 to 82
% in NCAA tourney 47%
% in NCAA title game 27%

Rothwell 75/76 season
0%
0%

these stats (imo) are incredibly misleading. Johnson had to build the program from nothing (that's why your stats show he's on par w/Eaves in percentages, GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK!). Once Badger Bob got rolling he won titles EVERY 4 years and lost the title in his final year to Nodak. that stretch from 81-83 may have been the best in terms of depth ever. Win a title in 81, lose the title in 82 and then win w/Sauer in 83. Eaves has never and will never have a stretch like that. Also, Sauer dropped off the table from 1995 to 02 in recruiting. it wasn't an up and down thing it was the ghosts of 1992 catching up with him in recruiting and the onset of St. Cloud (Craig Dahl), Denver (George Gwozdeky) and CC (Lucia) poaching a ton of good and great players who normally would have wound up at Wisconsin (or at least quite of few of them would have).

How about we look at these stats 1970-1994 or 1995 and see what you come up with? Badger hockey HAS NOT been Badger hockey since 95ish. That will give you a very clear picture of what we're talking about. Add in 20-win seasons, playoff championships, league championships et al.

I understand you like Eaves and that's just fine. He's not cutting it for me, period. dollars to donuts if JoeyV still lurks here he'd have quite a bit to say yet about one Mikey Eaves.

as to the 09-10 team. Gurt has probably been more eloquent than I on that subject in the past. IMO, Great defense, good offense, subpar goaltending. At no point during that year did I feel that team was the best in the country. But I did think they were good. Also, I love Hobey Blake Geoffrion, he was a great player and had a ton of heart but there's also a list of about 10 guys that should have gotten Hobey's at Wisconsin that I just feel were better players overall.

 

[bucky15]

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these stats (imo) are incredibly misleading. Johnson had to build the program from nothing (that's why your stats show he's on par w/Eaves in percentages, GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK!). Once Badger Bob got rolling he won titles EVERY 4 years and lost the title in his final year to Nodak. that stretch from 81-83 may have been the best in terms of depth ever. Win a title in 81, lose the title in 82 and then win w/Sauer in 83. Eaves has never and will never have a stretch like that. Also, Sauer dropped off the table from 1995 to 02 in recruiting. it wasn't an up and down thing it was the ghosts of 1992 catching up with him in recruiting and the onset of St. Cloud (Craig Dahl), Denver (George Gwozdeky) and CC (Lucia) poaching a ton of good and great players who normally would have wound up at Wisconsin (or at least quite of few of them would have).

How about we look at these stats 1970-1994 or 1995 and see what you come up with? Badger hockey HAS NOT been Badger hockey since 95ish. That will give you a very clear picture of what we're talking about. Add in 20-win seasons, playoff championships, league championships et al.

I understand you like Eaves and that's just fine. He's not cutting it or me, period. dollars to donuts if JoeyV still lurks here he'd have quite a bit to say yet about one Mikey Eaves.

as to the 09-10 team. Gurt has probably been more eloquent than I on that subject in the past. IMO, Great defense, good offense, subpar goaltending. At no point during that year did I feel that team was the best in the country. But I did think they were good. Also, I love Hobey Blake Geoffrion, he was a great player and had a ton of heart but there's also a list of about 10 guys that should have gotten Hobey's at Wisconsin that I just feel were better players overall.

I never said I liked Eaves. I just posted some stats. I thought all that mattered were tournament appearances and NCAA championships? Btw, no UW coach has been very good at winning regular season league championships. My view on a 20 win season, what does it matter if it doesn't get you into NCAA tournament.

You really have a bone to pick with Eaves if you think 09/10 was just a good team.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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as to the 09-10 team. Gurt has probably been more eloquent than I on that subject in the past. IMO, Great defense, good offense, subpar goaltending. At no point during that year did I feel that team was the best in the country. But I did think they were good. Also, I love Hobey Blake Geoffrion, he was a great player and had a ton of heart but there's also a list of about 10 guys that should have gotten Hobey's at Wisconsin that I just feel were better players overall.

Yeah... that team never really felt like a championship caliber team and in the end... well... they weren't.

A lot of really nice individual pieces, no doubt, but lacked the balance and talent across the board that the 05-06 team had. Also lacked the swagger and as much as I liked Blake, he wasn't Burish and Steppan wasn't Earle and whomever wasn't Gilbert.

And no, I don't care who's had what NHL career. Irrelevant to the 09-10 NCAA season.


The other mitigating factor is that due to MM and his unbalanced classes, it was a do or die year.

They died. Badly. 5-0 and didn't belong on the same sheet as BC.

But who could forget that semi-final tilt?


Good team with a puncher's chance, but outside of the "glory years" as any semblance of those ended in Milwaukee in 06.



I don't know if that's as eloquent as I've stated it in the past, but that's my take.

 

[bucky15]

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Yeah... that team never really felt like a championship caliber team and in the end... well... they weren't.

A lot of really nice individual pieces, no doubt, but lacked the balance and talent across the board that the 05-06 team had. Also lacked the swagger and as much as I liked Blake, he wasn't Burish and Steppan wasn't Earle and whomever wasn't Gilbert.

And no, I don't care who's had what NHL career. Irrelevant to the 09-10 NCAA season.


The other mitigating factor is that due to MM and his unbalanced classes, it was a do or die year.

They died. Badly. 5-0 and didn't belong on the same sheet as BC.

But who could forget that semi-final tilt?


Good team, but outside of the "glory years" as any semblance of those ended in Milwaukee in 06.



I don't know if that's as eloquent as I've stated it in the past, but that's my take.

That game was a lot closer than 5-0, but yes in the end they fell a part in the 3rd. A couple bounces go differently early in that game it is a different story.

The do or die year due to Eaves recruiting cycles means nothing in terms of them winning the title or not in 09/10. That is another shot at Eaves, which I feel clouds the memory of this team. It was the same mind set for most players on 05/06 and 09/10 as they were going to graduate or leave for the NHL after the season ended. The do or die year due to recruiting cycles, would be as relevant as me comparing NHL careers.

The big difference between the teams is one game changer in net.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Actually, to be fair, the "glory years" actually ended in the early 90s with the loss and meltdown against Lake State and the couple of years after.

Really hasn't been the same since and I believe a lot of us thought it was back on track with the slow (4 year) build to the 06 championship. Unfortunately, it couldn't be sustained.


And bone to pick with Eaves?

Yes.

He's overseen the final destruction of a once proud program, turning it from one of the top ten programs of all time (when he took over - it was higher ranked in the mid-80s) to whatever hell hole it resides in now.

And Alvarez is right there with him as Eaves should have been gone by 2012 at the latest.


The attendance don't lie. If they were above .500 most years with some peaks and played a style that wasn't completely gut-wrenchingly boring, the fans would still be there.

Eaves hasn't been able to right the ship in almost 10 years now as the ups and mostly downs started the year after the last title.


Should have been fired last year. One of Barry's many mistakes as an AD.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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That game was a lot closer than 5-0, but yes in the end they fell a part in the 3rd. A couple bounces go differently early in that game it is a different story.

The do or die year due to Eaves recruiting cycles means nothing in terms of them winning the title or not in 09/10. That is another shot at Eaves, which I feel clouds the memory of this team. It was the same mind set for most players on 05/06 and 09/10 as they were going to graduate or leave for the NHL after the season ended. The do or die year due to recruiting cycles, would be as relevant as me comparing NHL careers.

The big difference between the teams is one game changer in net.

Actually, I felt that way DURING that season and stated it here.

And no, that game was probably worse than 5-0. It never actually felt like we'd score.



As far as do or die? You're remembering the aftermath of 06 wrong or were too young to remember it now.

Pavelski and Earle were supposed to return and we still had Elliott. Wasn't going to be a full rebuild.

 

[bucky15]

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Actually, to be fair, the "glory years" actually ended in the early 90s with the loss and meltdown against Lake State and the couple of years after.

Really hasn't been the same since and I believe a lot of us thought it was back on track with the slow (4 year) build to the 06 championship. Unfortunately, it couldn't be sustained.


And bone to pick with Eaves?

Yes.

He's overseen the final destruction of a once proud program, turning it from one of the top ten programs of all time (when he took over - it was higher ranked in the mid-80s) to whatever hell hole it resides in now.

And Alvarez is right there with him as Eaves should have been gone by 2012 at the latest.


The attendance don't lie. If they were above .500 most years with some peaks and played a style that wasn't completely gut-wrenchingly boring, the fans would still be there.

Eaves hasn't been able to right the ship in almost 10 years now as the ups and mostly downs started the year after the last title.


Should have been fired last year. One of Barry's many mistakes as an AD.

Yes Eaves should have been fired last year. BA should have done that. agreed.

The first thing is what I have been getting at. The glory years ended long before Eaves arrived. agreed.

The bone to pick comment is in regards to the 09/10 team. I had a great time following that team and had some great times watching them that season. Fun group. I feel the Eaves angry cloud over everyone's head affects the memory of this team.

Eaves isn't going to quit, why would he he gets paid a lot of money. It is on BA to do his job.

Eaves' style of play is boring. agreed.

Good night.

 

[bucky15]

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Actually, I felt that way DURING that season and stated it here.

And no, that game was probably worse than 5-0. It never actually felt like we'd score.



As far as do or die? You're remembering the aftermath of 06 wrong or were too young to remember it now.

Pavelski and Earle were supposed to return and we still had Elliott. Wasn't going to be a full rebuild.

Pavs and EARL leaving is just part of college hockey and no different than Stepan leaving and other players deciding the CHL is a better path to develop as hockey players.

Davies had a breakaway early, but the puck took a Ford Field hop over his stick as he was shooting. Maybe, I am remembering it wrong.....I am young.

Every year is do or die for every team in college hockey.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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The bone to pick comment is in regards to the 09/10 team. I had a great time following that team and had some great times watching them that season. Fun group. I feel the Eaves angry cloud over everyone's head affects the memory of this team.

Not mine. I had season tickets... both nights.

I saw the flaws that I didn't see 4 years prior.


I hoped we'd win it that year. I wasn't surprised when we didn't.

I would have been quite surprised outside of the quirks of a one and done scenario if the 05-06 team didn't win.

We all saw that one (05-06) coming before that season even started.


09-10 were a fun team to watch. Just not a championship team and when you go feast or famine, the feast needs to be a title.