IndianaBadger1995
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Hey we can't score now. Yay.
Hey we can't score now. Yay.
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Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the problem!!
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Looks pretty ****ing empty, but don't tell the apologists.
Heard from yet another source tonight that Eaves was told by Alvarez that it's either your assistants or it's all of you.
A source that is VERY close to one of the (former) assistants and was at my house tonight.
Keep believing that company line though.
Sheep.
Looks pretty ****ing empty, but don't tell the apologists.
Heard from yet another source tonight that Eaves was told by Alvarez that it's either your assistants or it's all of you.
A source that is VERY close to one of the (former) assistants and was at my house tonight.
Keep believing that company line though.
Sheep.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
When the seats at the turn are that empty, you're missing a lot of serious hockey fans.
Looks pretty ****ing empty, but don't tell the apologists.
Heard from yet another source tonight that Eaves was told by Alvarez that it's either your assistants or it's all of you.
A source that is VERY close to one of the (former) assistants and was at my house tonight.
Keep believing that company line though.
Sheep.
When the seats at the turn are that empty, you're missing a lot of serious hockey fans.
It was by far the best attended Friday night game of the year. That being said, everyone could fit in the lower bowl and have elbow room if they wanted. As the picture shows. Student section was empty, but it is winter break so common (but not that empty) 200 section was basically empty on the ends. I think I counted 15 in my section, seven or eight in the section next to us.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
They have some talented forwards on this team. Hopefully, tonight is a bounce back game for the forwards.
Over the past few years, they have made this goalie look way too good for OSU.
They have some talented forwards on this team. Hopefully, tonight is a bounce back game for the forwards.
Over the past few years, they have made this goalie look way too good for OSU.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
They have some good forward recruits coming in. I doubt they would lose any more or less with a coaching change than if they kept him. This team is lacking a big shutdown D player to eat up minutes without the key mistakes late.
The coach aside, I think the future is looking brighter than some make it out to be. There are some talented kids on the team and coming into the program in the near future. Just need to get them in the program and grow them as players. That seams to be the problem lately....which you will say points to one person. That is a fair argument.
I don't know about the company line and sheep. Seems like an unnecessary comment about college sports.
Looks pretty ****ing empty, but don't tell the apologists.
Heard from yet another source tonight that Eaves was told by Alvarez that it's either your assistants or it's all of you.
A source that is VERY close to one of the (former) assistants and was at my house tonight.
Keep believing that company line though.
Sheep.
They have some good forward recruits coming in. I doubt they would lose any more or less with a coaching change than if they kept him. This team is lacking a big shutdown D player to eat up minutes without the key mistakes late.
The coach aside, I think the future is looking brighter than some make it out to be. There are some talented kids on the team and coming into the program in the near future. Just need to get them in the program and grow them as players. That seams to be the problem lately....which you will say points to one person. That is a fair argument.
I don't know about the company line and sheep. Seems like an unnecessary comment about college sports.
Yes we have some talent and are getting more in. But now we will be on years three and four of the Mike eaves four year plan. We might be good next year, we will be decent in year four. Then start all over again highly unbalanced recruiting, and be overloaded by underclassmen
. We will be in the same situations we always are with two to three horrible years.
These arn't teams eaves Inherited, they are teams he poorly built. And always builds. A good coach would do things to turn around a sinking ship. Eaves cannot seem to realize things need to change. Other than assistant coaches taking the fall.
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Timothy A
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
If that is the case, BA just should have pulled the plug himself. HE has to make the call, HE's the boss. I am a little shocked Eaves didn't do the noble thing and take one for the team, but if he resigns, he doesn't get paid, correct?
If that is the case, BA just should have pulled the plug himself. HE has to make the call, HE's the boss. I am a little shocked Eaves didn't do the noble thing and take one for the team, but if he resigns, he doesn't get paid, correct?
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
They haven't been able to get an elite Dman since Oz left. The 09/10 team that went to the finals had one of the best D groups in college history. Since then it has been slowly declining. The 2 asst coaches following Oz, were not good picks. That falls on Eaves as he was in charge of hiring them. That is bad management just like the balancing of forward recruits. I think everyone agrees on this. That falls on Eaves, and what Gurt and Timmay are saying it then falls on BA for not pulling the trigger. Eaves can coach, there are just a lot more factors for a D1 coach that come into play that he has doesn't excel at and has been exposed since Oz and Patrick left. Eaves ego and stubbornness to change will be the ultimate factor for his downfall(being witnessed currently) and eventual firing.
All that aside, there are players in the program and coming into (hopefully) that are worth getting excited for. I think this gets lost in the Eaves battle.
They haven't been able to get an elite Dman since Oz left. The 09/10 team that went to the finals had one of the best D groups in college history. Since then it has been slowly declining. The 2 asst coaches following Oz, were not good picks. That falls on Eaves as he was in charge of hiring them. That is bad management just like the balancing of forward recruits. I think everyone agrees on this. That falls on Eaves, and what Gurt and Timmay are saying it then falls on BA for not pulling the trigger. Eaves can coach, there are just a lot more factors for a D1 coach that come into play that he has doesn't excel at and has been exposed since Oz and Patrick left. Eaves ego and stubbornness to change will be the ultimate factor for his downfall(being witnessed currently) and eventual firing.
All that aside, there are players in the program and coming into (hopefully) that are worth getting excited for. I think this gets lost in the Eaves battle.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
I don't doubt that the team is moving in the right direction compared to last season. It would be hard not to.
As far as the "company line," we had people in here within the past few weeks who are still buying the PR put out by Eaves and the AD that Chuck reported on - not saying that Chuck was wrong as he reports what is said.
I don't doubt that the team is moving in the right direction compared to last season. It would be hard not to.
As far as the "company line," we had people in here within the past few weeks who are still buying the PR put out by Eaves and the AD that Chuck reported on - not saying that Chuck was wrong as he reports what is said.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
agreed, this is on Barry almost much as it is Eaves, his failure to pull the trigger (or even care, when's the last time anyone saw him at a hockey game? there are often pictures of him at basketball and of course football)
with the insane drop in attendance and the fact that reporters are saying alumni are telling players to avoid Eaves...this is a toxic environment, only a very large change will save it.
agreed, this is on Barry almost much as it is Eaves, his failure to pull the trigger (or even care, when's the last time anyone saw him at a hockey game? there are often pictures of him at basketball and of course football)
with the insane drop in attendance and the fact that reporters are saying alumni are telling players to avoid Eaves...this is a toxic environment, only a very large change will save it.
Wisko McBadgerton
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Eaves is getting Director to low level VP, mid-sized corporate money. He's not getting, 'It doesn't matter' Football/Bouncyball HC play money. And he certainly doesn't lack confidence in his own ability to do the job. I'm not sure how many lower upper management people in that same position would just walk away from 4 years of salary in a lump sum based on some sort of nebulous, quasi-altruistic, 'fall on your own sword' ideal when asked to fire some middle managers under similar circumstances. People mention it often, but I don't see it as being very realistic. That could just be me though. Shuchuk's fate was likely sealed when his ill-advised comment blew up. Walsh was probably more or less collateral damage. Alvarez could have fired Eaves, but he didn't for whatever reason. Eaves just quitting was always a pretty far-fetched notion in my mind.
Re-watched a little of last night's game, and I think the boys played a little better than I at first thought upon watching it live. Shot attempts were 58-44 Bucky which is probably in line with possession and chances in the game. A little troubling that the last 75 SOG have only produced one goal but they just have to work through it. Rocky showed his rust and I thought Kunin was a little overmatched and seemed to be pressing a bit and Besse's play without the puck is still lacking. Overall they weren't sharp but I did think they had improved quite a bit in their defensive positioning which is kind of subtle, but it's an important step. Agree that Soleway looked off again. I thought Hughes looked poised to really breakout as their aren't many guys that can handle him in the O zone. Kunin and Besse just have to work a bit harder to get free and that line can get going. Agree Soleway looked slow again. Eddie played well, and I thought Ustaski did pretty well for himself outside of taking that bad penalty.
It's going to suck if Hughes is out again from getting hurt with 20 seconds to go in the game. Paddy Sexton looked like a pretty awkward injury, (maybe a knee?) would hate to lose him too as he's been a real asset.
Clean things up tonight and the Badgers can get a needed win. Go Red!
Eaves is getting Director to low level VP, mid-sized corporate money. He's not getting, 'It doesn't matter' Football/Bouncyball HC play money. And he certainly doesn't lack confidence in his own ability to do the job. I'm not sure how many lower upper management people in that same position would just walk away from 4 years of salary in a lump sum based on some sort of nebulous, quasi-altruistic, 'fall on your own sword' ideal when asked to fire some middle managers under similar circumstances. People mention it often, but I don't see it as being very realistic. That could just be me though. Shuchuk's fate was likely sealed when his ill-advised comment blew up. Walsh was probably more or less collateral damage. Alvarez could have fired Eaves, but he didn't for whatever reason. Eaves just quitting was always a pretty far-fetched notion in my mind.
Re-watched a little of last night's game, and I think the boys played a little better than I at first thought upon watching it live. Shot attempts were 58-44 Bucky which is probably in line with possession and chances in the game. A little troubling that the last 75 SOG have only produced one goal but they just have to work through it. Rocky showed his rust and I thought Kunin was a little overmatched and seemed to be pressing a bit and Besse's play without the puck is still lacking. Overall they weren't sharp but I did think they had improved quite a bit in their defensive positioning which is kind of subtle, but it's an important step. Agree that Soleway looked off again. I thought Hughes looked poised to really breakout as their aren't many guys that can handle him in the O zone. Kunin and Besse just have to work a bit harder to get free and that line can get going. Agree Soleway looked slow again. Eddie played well, and I thought Ustaski did pretty well for himself outside of taking that bad penalty.
It's going to suck if Hughes is out again from getting hurt with 20 seconds to go in the game. Paddy Sexton looked like a pretty awkward injury, (maybe a knee?) would hate to lose him too as he's been a real asset.
Clean things up tonight and the Badgers can get a needed win. Go Red!
LordofBrewtown
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Need a win tonight/at least be able to split at home for the team to be able to reach 10-12 wins for this year. I'm still not sure what I expect out of this team. Even with the improvement over last year, its still very disappointing to be hoping for @ 12 wins this year - which likely means no better than a bubble team 17-19 next year - when the Big10 is so down. Have to expect Minnesota to get better, and I suspect that Sparty will wake up and fire Anastos after this year, so they should only improve (as upset as I am with Eaves right now, it could be worse, we could have Anastos).
Need a win tonight/at least be able to split at home for the team to be able to reach 10-12 wins for this year. I'm still not sure what I expect out of this team. Even with the improvement over last year, its still very disappointing to be hoping for @ 12 wins this year - which likely means no better than a bubble team 17-19 next year - when the Big10 is so down. Have to expect Minnesota to get better, and I suspect that Sparty will wake up and fire Anastos after this year, so they should only improve (as upset as I am with Eaves right now, it could be worse, we could have Anastos).
IndianaBadger1995
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Observation of the first 10 minutes ~ Everything is out of sync.
Edit: NOBODY is driving the net. Can't score if you don't do that.
Observation of the first 10 minutes ~ Everything is out of sync.
Edit: NOBODY is driving the net. Can't score if you don't do that.
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IndianaBadger1995
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
Defense is terrible. OSU scores on every opportunity they get. Oh hey we drove the net and scored! Go figure.
Defense is terrible. OSU scores on every opportunity they get. Oh hey we drove the net and scored! Go figure.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
At least we've scored once?
Edit: Twice! Lucky break for Rockwood. You have to love those "ooh, look what I found" goals.
At least we've scored once?
Edit: Twice! Lucky break for Rockwood. You have to love those "ooh, look what I found" goals.
IndianaBadger1995
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
3 players near Frey and a goal! Tie game!
3 players near Frey and a goal! Tie game!
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXXVI: Stop looking for the silver lining and ignoring the probl
It was nice while it lasted.
Edit: just kidding? Offsides!
It was nice while it lasted.
Edit: just kidding? Offsides!
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