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Wisconsin Hockey XXXIV: A Season without Chuck

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my guess is he's mostly done with Wisconsin Hockey,...He's got the Blackhawks...once those decisions get made (as Tim said earlier: see Indycar 1994 crowds and look at today's tv numbers and crowds) you almost never get those fans back


Your guess would be 100% wrong. Give me a little credit here. :p

I stuck with the aforementioned Blackhawks when they sucked. I cut my Packers teeth in the debacle that was the decade of the 80s. I'm still a Brewers fan.

My decision to no longer purchase Badger Hockey season tickets in no way means that I'm done with being a Badger Hockey fan. I'll weather this just like I have other bad eras of my teams.


Thanks for your concern Burd. You're a good dude.

I'm fine and still lurking from time to time. Just haven't had anything to say (post) lately.
 
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Glad to see that you're still with us, Gurt.

Lurking in the shadows is completely understandable at this point in time.

Please don't talk to me about the Blackhawks after they took 3 points off the Isles in the first two games though. Harumph.
 
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Speaking of lurking in the shadows...I saw Chuck/Andy, or at least someone using the Chuck Schwartz log-on lurking the other day.

Good to see you are still around and keeping tabs on us!
 
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I don't think they have to pick an alumni as HC, I think it's more important to pick someone with a track record of winning as a HC at the college or junior (USHL preferably) level.

your are right on here, but it is silly to talk about because it isn't happening for at least two years imo.
 
your are right on here, but it is silly to talk about because it isn't happening for at least two years imo.

I don't know: another middling year, with a fanbase that is evaporating with ever non-competitive loss, with recruiting difficulties increasing with a head coach known to be on the hot seat. Every year they wait is 2-3 more years before a new coach can expect to get things get turned around. 2 more seasons with Eaves and they be able to hold unsold out games at LaBian. A 10 to 15 win season, and the whole coaching staff may need to go, fair to them or not, but because it's necessary for the overall health of the program.
 
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I don't know: another middling year, with a fanbase that is evaporating with ever non-competitive loss, with recruiting difficulties increasing with a head coach known to be on the hot seat. Every year they wait is 2-3 more years before a new coach can expect to get things get turned around. 2 more seasons with Eaves and they be able to hold unsold out games at LaBian. A 10 to 15 win season, and the whole coaching staff may need to go, fair to them or not, but because it's necessary for the overall health of the program.

Well you know my view and I agree with you. I just don't see it with this athletic department and director.
 
Well you know my view and I agree with you. I just don't see it with this athletic department and director.

At some point it becomes a major PR issue. To many more articles about sub 4000 actual crowd and they will act. They may not give a pile of dung about the hockey program, they care mightly about the perception of UW athletics in the community. Game losses happe and are forgotten with the next highlight package, multiple disastrous attendance articles become something they need to act on, particularly if UW falls out of the top 3 in attendance (which might happen).
 
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Pete Waite "resigned" after not super-bad, but not that good, middling teams, and I don't recall a public announcement of him being placed on the hot seat, as was done with Eaves.
 
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Speaking of lurking in the shadows...I saw Chuck/Andy, or at least someone using the Chuck Schwartz log-on lurking the other day.

Good to see you are still around and keeping tabs on us!

It has got to be killing him not being able to post, it would be killing me.

Pete Waite "resigned" after not super-bad, but not that good, middling teams, and I don't recall a public announcement of him being placed on the hot seat, as was done with Eaves.

I think the difference is that the VB community is much smaller and the program itself does not have the heritage of the men's hockey program. The Eaves hot seat declaration was simply to try and calm the masses. Clearly that has worked wonders.
 
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I know it was tweeted by Badger Hockey but I thought I'd mention it here too. Number 18, Murray Johnson passed away Sunday after battling cancer for some time. Murray was a stalwart on the Badgers '77 championship team with only six Badgers appearing in more games(43). Defenseman Norm McIntosh(#8) remained very close friends with him right up until the end.

As solo posted about '84, I'll say that '77 was my first year of attending games regularly as a youngster. And what a year to start. Coming off a disastrous 12 win season, the Badgers stormed back onto the national scene with a record setting 37 wins and a National Championship. What I remember most is the players lining up and Julian Baretta skating backwards between them into the net to start things off. He was quirky but it worked for him and I never saw him lose a game in goal. (Not surprising, as he was 21-2 in '77). That team turned into a machine on the ice and if you put them on a power play late in a close game, it was all over. For fun, here's the stat sheet:

<a href="http://imgur.com/RqbR53W"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/RqbR53W.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

The Badgers appeared in the title game four times from '77-83 and it was glorious. It never has and never will be the same. Everything about the college game has changed. But man it was something else for a time and I'll never forget it. Thanks for the memories and Godspeed Mr. Johnson.
 
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I know it was tweeted by Badger Hockey but I thought I'd mention it here too. Number 18, Murray Johnson passed away Sunday after battling cancer for some time. Murray was a stalwart on the Badgers '77 championship team with only six Badgers appearing in more games(43). Defenseman Norm McIntosh(#8) remained very close friends with him right up until the end.

As solo posted about '84, I'll say that '77 was my first year of attending games regularly as a youngster. And what a year to start. Coming off a disastrous 12 win season, the Badgers stormed back onto the national scene with a record setting 37 wins and a National Championship. What I remember most is the players lining up and Julian Baretta skating backwards between them into the net to start things off. He was quirky but it worked for him and I never saw him lose a game in goal. (Not surprising, as he was 21-2 in '77). That team turned into a machine on the ice and if you put them on a power play late in a close game, it was all over. For fun, here's the stat sheet:

<a href="http://imgur.com/RqbR53W"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/RqbR53W.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

The Badgers appeared in the title game four times from '77-83 and it was glorious. It never has and never will be the same. Everything about the college game has changed. But man it was something else for a time and I'll never forget it. Thanks for the memories and Godspeed Mr. Johnson.

From the viewpoint of a Sioux fan, those '80 - 84 years sure made that rivalry a fun one.

And there's that bottle . . .
 
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From the viewpoint of a Sioux fan, those '80 - 84 years sure made that rivalry a fun one.

And there's that bottle . . .

I still have a memory of watching a game on Channel 3 where the Badgers went up to UND and someone had hung a dead badger from the rafters, and it left bloody spots on the ice.

No idea what year that was, but that kind of image sticks in your head when you are an impressionable youth.
 
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Julian Baretta. Wow.

Any of you veterans like me, remember his superstitions?

When it was his turn in the net (if not always), he would take a bite out of a Big Mac, puke it out, and hit the ice. Then after the intro's and the national anthem, he would back into the net from the blue line serenaded with "Penny Lane" by the Badger band. God those days were ****ing awesome.
 
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I wouldn't begin to opine why your program has sunk to the low it has, but it's a shame to see a traditional powerhouse diminished like this. As a BC fan, I remember the early and mid 90s between Len Ceglarski and Jerry York, when the Eagles were down. Even though the bottom was never quite as bad as 2014-15 Wisconsin, it was pretty bad with Cedorchuk, the scholarship screwup, hiring Mike Millbury and him ditching them before coaching a single game. Low, low times.

It took some time, but it got better, a lot better, as I am sure it will with a program of Wisconsin's proud history and I look forward to a future rematch of the 2006 and 2010 National Championship and to being excited when seeing you guys are on BC's home schedule.
 
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The games for this weekend both look like they are going to be broadcasted on the WCHA streaming site for $7.99 a game.

Free radio broadcast on iHeartRadio for 1310.
 
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This Michigan based Badger is biting the bullet and heading over to Big Rapids on Saturday. I'm just hoping that they are competitive as I'm not planning on taking a bag to pull over my head. Victor Posa lived on my dorm floor. The guy was certifiable. Oh the stories. Tony Granato was on the floor the year prior. Lots of insite watching replays on PBS with him when you can't read lips.
 
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This Michigan based Badger is biting the bullet and heading over to Big Rapids on Saturday. I'm just hoping that they are competitive as I'm not planning on taking a bag to pull over my head. Victor Posa lived on my dorm floor. The guy was certifiable. Oh the stories. Tony Granato was on the floor the year prior. Lots of insite watching replays on PBS with him when you can't read lips.

I'd be very interested to hear your live impressions, especially of the new crop; Kunin, Johnson, Malone, Freytag, and whatever D pair is in there.

Hopefully the boys have made some progress. Ferris State is always hard to play against as they sit back and wait a lot and they're always big, and strong with a lot of hustle. Weird low ceiling rink, too.

Well, today is the first day of the rest of the season------> Let's GO Red!
 
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Luke Kunin getting some love from Red Line Report (via USA Today)
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Under their "Rising" players they say:
Luke Kunin (Univ. of Wisconsin) — Looks like a completely different player from the one we saw last year. Tenacious and involved, and more confident finishing off plays around the net.

So maybe even on a winless team people are noticing him after all. :rolleyes:
 
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